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Which team are you in, hooman? (NOTE: Vote-changing disabled!)

  • #TeamReal

    Votes: 2,046 67.7%
  • #TeamFake

    Votes: 978 32.3%

  • Total voters
    3,024
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SchuckyDucky

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Nov 5, 2017
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You really think that Mr Game & the Watch, ROB or Duck Hunt would have made more sense than Ken Griffey jr ?

Obviously, no. Those characters are video games characters or video game related characters first and foremost. I'd argue Ken Griffey Jr. makes more sense than Goku, though. There was a whole series of games published by Nintendo starring him and Nintendo owned the Seattle Mariners for a long time. Much more of a history with Nintendo than Goku.
 

Axass

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,384
The entire video game side of the internet has been trying to disprove this for an entire day and came up empty handed, the creation of such a fake would require huge skills, luck, time and effort, there are real people and companies involved, Occam's Razor sides with the simplest explanation: this is real.
 

Mipmap

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Nov 1, 2017
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I'm probably lttp, but you can get a clear shot of the Smash banner without characters at the 4:58:13 mark of Nintendo's E3 Treehouse video here:
https://youtu.be/8O-ZUXGcuWU?t=17893

I screengrabbed it and perspective corrected it as well (large image warning)
SCzdK0l.jpg
 

BassForever

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Understandable, we just have no interest in giving this more of a platform than it already has.

I guess I can give yall some level of respect for the decision. I imagine the views for such a discussion would well make it worth it even if you had concrete evidence you can't share that it's fake. Derrick's 3 minute hot take video is one of the most viewed videos of the week.
 

Jahranimo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Understandable, we just have no interest in giving this more of a platform than it already has.
I respect you guys treating your position seriously as your videos can have a lot of influence in the Nintendo community.

Again, why are you trusting anything that LeakyPandy says? It's not even that hard of a guess for the Smash Direct.

I agree with this. They haven't really been credible with anything.
 

EJS

The Fallen - Self Requested Ban
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Oct 31, 2017
9,176
Tim on KFGD was reminding me of Charlie from Always Sunny with his theories, lol.
 

BassForever

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Oct 25, 2017
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Since GX isn't doing it, does anyone else have a link to a good discussion video on the leak? I saw source gaming had a 2+ hour stream and I've seen a few >10 videos of one person talking to a camera. Is there anything in the 20-30 minute range that is a round table discussion?
 

NotLiquid

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Oct 25, 2017
34,748
I'm probably lttp, but you can get a clear shot of the Smash banner without characters at the 4:58:13 mark of Nintendo's E3 Treehouse video here:
https://youtu.be/8O-ZUXGcuWU?t=17893

I screengrabbed it and perspective corrected it as well (large image warning)
SCzdK0l.jpg
I think the BG was posted on SmashBoards but the full thing wasn't brought onto here, so much appreciated.

You can definitely see the castle, and most of the distant background elements and general overexposure seems to come from the fact that this is a camera recording of distant widescreen monitor. Insofar, there's not a lot to suggest the background itself has changed since E3.
 

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Obviously, no. Those characters are video games characters or video game related characters first and foremost. I'd argue Ken Griffey Jr. makes more sense than Goku, though. There was a whole series of games published by Nintendo starring him and Nintendo owned the Seattle Mariners for a long time. Much more of a history with Nintendo than Goku.

I agree with you there. But I think Goku makes sense for 2 reasons :

First if all is one of the most famous and iconic anime and videogame character of all time. He is as iconic as non Nintendo character such as Sonic or Snake in that regard.

Secondly, Namco Bandai has been developing Smash games lately ( not sure if it was confirm for Ultimate ). So to get one character from their universe would make sense. As we have yet to see any Tekken, Soul Calibur or Dragon Ball characters.
 

Rotobit

Editor at Nintendo Wire
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Oct 27, 2017
10,196
I'm probably lttp, but you can get a clear shot of the Smash banner without characters at the 4:58:13 mark of Nintendo's E3 Treehouse video here:
https://youtu.be/8O-ZUXGcuWU?t=17893

I screengrabbed it and perspective corrected it as well (large image warning)
SCzdK0l.jpg

Awesome, was wondering what the source was. Updated my comparison image so people can draw their own conclusions:

Ms2aV25.jpg


The island with the buildings is still the biggest oddity
 

YolkFolk

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
5,212
The North, England
Understandable, we just have no interest in giving this more of a platform than it already has.

But GX did a video completely shooting down the Smash 4 leak which turned out to be true.

Does this mean that you will flat out refuse to make discussions on rumours from now on?

The only reason you guys wouldn't give this more focus is if you had key information which proved that it wasn't true.
 

Jonneh

Good Vibes Gaming
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Oct 24, 2017
4,538
UK
But GX did a video completely shooting down the Smash 4 leak which turned out to be true.

Does this mean that you will flat out refuse to make discussions on rumours from now on?

The only reason you guys wouldn't give this more focus is if you had key information which proved that it wasn't true.
I wasn't with GX during Smash 4 so it's not really my place to comment on that
 

BassForever

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But GX did a video completely shooting down the Smash 4 leak which turned out to be true.

Does this mean that you will flat out refuse to make discussions on rumours from now on?

The only reason you guys wouldn't give this more focus is if you had key information which proved that it wasn't true.

Think your post through for a second

The last time they did a leak discussion and concluded it was fake they got egg on their faces. Last thing they need to do is come out hard against this and get btfo again.
 

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can we crank down a tad the criticism and backlash over gamexplain
anyone could have been wrong on the esrb leak, it was the first of its kind, and it's their fair right to not be willing to comment further on this leak for whatever reason they have
trying to find a reasoning as to why a bunch of non-affiliated individuals are not willing to comment twice a rumor is also kinda ridiculous
 

Neoxon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just saying, with almost every known insider either saying it's fake or casting doubt on the rumor in some way, maybe we should take a step back & take this rumor with the usual grain of salt before heralding it as fact. I only say this because I fear that the backlash will be catastrophic if the rumor ends up being fake.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I'm currently on team "leaning fake to create a mental buffer but still hoping it's real".
Most of it hinges on that missing castle which was either missed during reproduction due to being obscured in all previous instances of the banner or was dropped from the real art for some unknowable reason.
 

wiill64

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Oct 30, 2017
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Think your post through for a second

The last time they did a leak discussion and concluded it was fake they got egg on their faces. Last thing they need to do is come out hard against this and get btfo again.
But they already did an update video stating that they think it's fake and Jonneh is willing to sit in a puddle if it turns out to be true, so they have come out against the rumour just in a smaller way.
 

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Just saying, with almost every known insider either saying it's fake or casting doubt on the rumor in some way, maybe we should take a step back & take this rumor with the usual grain of salt before heralding it as fact. I only say this because I fear that the backlash will be catastrophic if the rumor ends up being fake.

"every known insider" man you really multiply the hyperboles to try to prove your teamfake stance
 

BassForever

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just saying, with almost every known insider either saying it's fake or casting doubt on the rumor, maybe we should take a step back & take this rumor with the usual grain of salt before heralding it as fact. I only say this because I fear that the backlash will be catastrophic if the rumor ends up being fake.

That's what I'm hoping for at this point. Let anarchy reign and the salt flow!
 

Dark Cloud

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just saying, with almost every known insider either saying it's fake or casting doubt on the rumor in some way, maybe we should take a step back & take this rumor with the usual grain of salt before heralding it as fact. I only say this because I fear that the backlash will be catastrophic if the rumor ends up being fake.
Backlash against who? Sakurai? Some guy who's probably fired?
 

TimeFire

Avenger
Nov 26, 2017
9,625
Brazil
Just saying, with almost every known insider either saying it's fake or casting doubt on the rumor, maybe we should take a step back & take this rumor with the usual grain of salt before heralding it as fact. I only say this because I fear that the backlash will be catastrophic if the rumor ends up being fake.

Yeah, I'm starting to reel my expectations in. I'm thinking the fallout from a possible Incineroar trailer will be even worst than before if this is not disproven.
 

Neoxon

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm current on team "leaning fake to create a mental buffer but still hoping it's real".
Most of it hinges on that missing castle which was either missed during reproduction due to being obscured in all previous instances of the banner or was dropped from the real art for some unknowable reason.
Same here, I hope it's real for the Chorus Kids & the rage it being fake would induce, but I'm honestly not sure.
 

New Donker

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Oct 26, 2017
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Just saying, with almost every known insider either saying it's fake or casting doubt on the rumor in some way, maybe we should take a step back & take this rumor with the usual grain of salt before heralding it as fact. I only say this because I fear that the backlash will be catastrophic if the rumor ends up being fake.

Or insiders are getting their info from similar sources who were wrong.

How many times did I hear a CoD was coming to switch?

It's possible insiders have heard of characters which will actually be DLC
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Awesome, was wondering what the source was. Updated my comparison image so people can draw their own conclusions:

Ms2aV25.jpg


The island with the buildings is still the biggest oddity
Wait a second, was this reconstructed using slices of snapchat video frames? That would probably explain at least some differences, if you look at the orange waterfall on the right there is a diagonal line cutting it off, and the same angle line carries into the sky splitting two shades of blue, same angle that borders both ends of the image.
 
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ResetGreyWolf

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just saying, with almost every known insider either saying it's fake or casting doubt on the rumor in some way, maybe we should take a step back & take this rumor with the usual grain of salt before heralding it as fact. I only say this because I fear that the backlash will be catastrophic if the rumor ends up being fake.

Backlash against who, lol. Everyone knows it's a rumour, so anyone treating it as 100% proof has only themselves to blame tbh
 

NotLiquid

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wait a second, was this reconstructed using slices of snapchat video frames? That would probably explain at least some differences, if you look at the orange waterfall on the right there is a diagonal line cutting it off, and the same angle line carries into the sky splitting two shades of blue.
Nah the background is presented as-is. The borders are part of the full BG as it's on a piece of paper. In the leak itself it's just zoomed out and blurred a little.
 

Axass

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,384
If it turns out fake, the "it's fucking DK" thread on GAF will be nothing in comparison to the reaction it would get.
 

Rotobit

Editor at Nintendo Wire
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Oct 27, 2017
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Wait a second, was this reconstructed using slices of snapchat video frames? That would probably explain at least some differences, if you look at the orange waterfall on the right there is a diagonal line cutting it off, and the same angle line carries into the sky splitting two shades of blue.

The character part is what was spliced together, the battlefield art can be seen on a separate piece of paper in the big overview pic. It's still fairly blurry and washed out, though, so the contrast is a lot sharper
 
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