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Halloween (2018) |OT| The Night He Came Home. Again.
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Saw it today with a small but good audience. A couple of people chuckled at the ending going
which got some more laughs.
I enjoyed it. It's not anywhere near close to the original, and I've not seen any of the other ones so maybe having that be my only comparison hurts it. Music was fantastic, and acting fine all around. I think some of the humor bits don't work (the cops talking about their dinners) and some of the contrivances are a bit much (
).
The biggest issues I had were that I was never surprised, nor scared, and I thought they showed him way too much.
It's fine.
"He's still alive. It's made too much money!"
I enjoyed it. It's not anywhere near close to the original, and I've not seen any of the other ones so maybe having that be my only comparison hurts it. Music was fantastic, and acting fine all around. I think some of the humor bits don't work (the cops talking about their dinners) and some of the contrivances are a bit much (
it's hard getting rid of cell phones, I know
The biggest issues I had were that I was never surprised, nor scared, and I thought they showed him way too much.
It's fine.
All of the praise it's getting and the high Rotten Tomatoes score I knew going into it that it would be overrated and I was right.
Do you folks like Halloween 3: Season of the Witch? I always have, and want to watch it again soon. I think I only owned it on VHS though.
That's probably the best one after the original. Mostly because of the brilliant ending.
I don't, because what the hell...
It feels like Never Say Never Again of the Halloween franchise.
Hell yeah! Still the best sequel (granted it's not really a sequel, so maybe I should just say second best Halloween movie). It's dumb as hell, but brilliant. And has the best song.
A friend asked me where this movie falls on the timeline, and I told him that it follows on from the masterful original, and forgets the sequels. I didn't realize how crazy the timeline was, though, because another friend mentioned the mess it is. I don't remember some of the later sequels well, but always enjoyed 4 and 5.
Another friend joked and said he thought it was a sequel to Season of the Witch, which got the three of us talking about how much we liked it, but that a lot didn't.
Another friend joked and said he thought it was a sequel to Season of the Witch, which got the three of us talking about how much we liked it, but that a lot didn't.
"All of the praise it's getting and the high Rotten Tomatoes score"
I don't often agree with scores for movies. A lot of stuff that ends up with a low score I feel deserves higher and same with high scores that deserve lower.
For example: Goosebumps 2 I find is a better movie than the first one yet it had like a 30% drop.
Oh and also in Goosebumps 2 it has the EXACT same scene as this new Halloween of a girl seeing the guy she's interested in kiss another girl in a crowded room of people dancing. Goosebumps 2 is a PG movie so it makes more sense in that. Not to mention I felt the dialogue between the kids in Goosebumps 2 was better than the first and in Halloween.
Oh and the guy seen kissing another girl isn't just forgotten about like in Halloween.
No, it isnt. That's not how RT works. That 80% isnt telling you it's an 8/10 movie. Its telling you that 8 of 10 critics gave it a positive review. Whether that review is a 6/10 or 10/10 has no bearing on the RT %. It's simply a % of favorable reviews.
Yes it is? It takes all of the critic reviews, determines if the score they gave is rotten or not, then they average it out and then you have the Rotten Tomatoes score.
Really liked the movie. Really loved the soundtrack.
That said, wish the movie had found a less contrived way for Michael and Lorie to encounter one another. There's more effective version of the movie where Laurie realizes the source of her lifelong anxiety doesn't actually give a shit about her. He goes on a killing spree in Haddonfield and has no intention of ever finding her—he's just a vehicle for death. Her well-defended house turns out to be for nothing, and instead, she's forced to improvise, as she realizes she can't actually rest until she goes after him herself.
I mean, fine. Contrivances are part of horror. I just think this would have better spoken to the movie's themes.
That said, wish the movie had found a less contrived way for Michael and Lorie to encounter one another. There's more effective version of the movie where Laurie realizes the source of her lifelong anxiety doesn't actually give a shit about her. He goes on a killing spree in Haddonfield and has no intention of ever finding her—he's just a vehicle for death. Her well-defended house turns out to be for nothing, and instead, she's forced to improvise, as she realizes she can't actually rest until she goes after him herself.
I mean, fine. Contrivances are part of horror. I just think this would have better spoken to the movie's themes.
What RT is presenting is a percentage of favorable reviews. Nothing more, nothing less. It's a factual % of good reviews. That's it. It is in no way a percentage of quality.
A movie can have 100% on RT even if each individual review is a score of only 6/10.
How does it make more sense? Well, it was a children's movie and nothing about the scene in Halloween was something that couldn't be shown in a children's movie. With the guy not even reappearing to be killed in Halloween it had no purpose.
It's in no way a percentage of quality? Lol okay whatever you want to tell yourself.
That's not bad, but it would require the movie taking its time and it's pretty clear the movie was kinda rushing things along.
It coulda used a longer run time. The pace was too brisk. It basically cuts out the patient stalking Michael was really famous for in the first, and it explains why he only killed a few people. He wasn't out to just kill everything that moved.
As much as I do like this new movie, I can't ignore the stuff it got wrong, and stuff it seems many people are just ignoring.
It got Michael mostly right, but this new movie came with a few sacrifices. Michael didn't do very much stalking. The movie moved far too quick and spent too much time with other characters for that to be possible.
But how does a character seeing two other characters kissing at a dance make more sense in one movie over the other if they both play out the same way?
It's not an average. An RT score says nothing about quality; it's only consensus regardless of score. An 79% for Halloween only means that 79% of reviews were positive. "Positive" could be flawed but passable movie or it could be a fantastic movie that the reviewer absolutely loved, the RT score would still be the same
It's not. All an RT score offers is a show of hands to the question "did you like it?". The average score is the actual average of review scores, the RT score is just the percentage of how many reviews were positive regardless of how positive. A 7/10 and 10/10 are equal on RT.
If a movie only got 7/10s and all those 7/10s were fresh, then the movie would have an RT of 100% because 100% of the reviews were positive
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Just got to a part in the novelization where the woman podcaster was taking a shower and the male podcaster scares the shit out of her coming into the bathroom naked and wearing Michael's mask, then they fuck. So...sorta counts lol.
Are you being intentionally daft? What I'm telling you is literally EXACTLY what RT does. It gives you a percentage of positive reviews. That's it. Its telling you that 80% of critics have Halloween a favorable review. What its NOT doing is saying the average of critic reviews is 80%.
Easiest way for me to dismiss one's opinion lmao
Liked it, felt they showed too much of him true. Also lots, lots of kills.
Best to ignore people who try to appear enlightened when it comes to RT really.
Are all movie OT's like this? Last 2 pages in here have been a ride.
Jesus..
Jesus..
You can disagree with reviews all you like. Theres nothing wrong with that. I have no problem with that.
My problem was with you calling it "predictably overrated" based on the Tomatometer and your subsequent display of not actually knowing what RT does or how it works.
They don't play out the same way. In Halloween it is forgotten and in Goosebumps 2 it isn't.
Every single popular movie with good rt you get the same horseshit from smartasses who really love to use the word overrated
I was curious watching the movie just how many people he was killing, because it felt like a lot (and I think it hurts the movie overall to have so many tossed away deaths) and if this wiki entry I'm reading is correct, he kills 3 times as many people as he does in the first movie.
Another slight negative: I really didn't like that they showed some fo the first movie as a flashback. The first death with the steadycam of the sister is too stylized and just doesn't fit in this new version because of how different it is shot.
Another slight negative: I really didn't like that they showed some fo the first movie as a flashback. The first death with the steadycam of the sister is too stylized and just doesn't fit in this new version because of how different it is shot.
It is forgotten. They set it up then forgot about it.
Why are you getting so worked up over me? Please relax.
I agree, makes plenty of sense that Lauries 40 year plan might not come to fruition and she'd have to do something crazy to stop him. Although I did really like the role reversal stuff at the end, they could have made it work in a different environment.
By my rough count from memory....
1. Bus guard 1
2. Bus guard 2
3. Kid in jeep
4. Mechanic 1
5. Mechanic 2
6. Male podcaster
7. Female podcaster
8. Woman in first house
9. Woman in second house
10. Babysitter
11. Babysitters boyfriend
12. Friendzone guy
13. Doctor
14. Sandwich cop 1
15. Sandwich cop 2
16. Ray
2. Bus guard 2
3. Kid in jeep
4. Mechanic 1
5. Mechanic 2
6. Male podcaster
7. Female podcaster
8. Woman in first house
9. Woman in second house
10. Babysitter
11. Babysitters boyfriend
12. Friendzone guy
13. Doctor
14. Sandwich cop 1
15. Sandwich cop 2
16. Ray
Vs (from the original)
1. Judith
2. Mechanic
3. Annie
4. Bob
5. Linda
There is pay-off.
The set-up is the relationship and the party, the pay-off is what happens to the phone, her leaving the party, her taking the shortcut
Did you want a scene later in the movie, after she leaves the party, where she confronts him?
There's also
the kid's dad too no? Wasn't he the body with the head twisted at a 90 degrees angle backwards, resting against the bus? Cause there was the dying cop in the field, and the one Hawkins finds on the road. Lots of blood inside the bus too.
I was looking at this:
http://halloween-films.wikia.com/wiki/Body_Count
(Also, seeing all of them listed out, I'm very confused on what Halloween 3 is supposed to be about!)
No, that scene exists solely to ensure Allyson doesn't have her phone and thus can't be reached by her family when they try to warn her about Michael. It served exactly that purpose.
lol okay, guess I'm wrong for expecting a slasher movie that introduces a douchebag character to be killed by the time the movie is over. Or maybe it's just that good that they know the audience will expect it so they choose not so they can be different?!