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Which team are you in, hooman? (NOTE: Vote-changing disabled!)

  • #TeamReal

    Votes: 2,046 67.7%
  • #TeamFake

    Votes: 978 32.3%

  • Total voters
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RedAhmed

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do we? that french website just said they knew the company is working for Namco
There are several things we don't know (for sure). My doubts are:

Why is a company that works for Bandai doing the marketing for Smash? It should be a company working for Nintendo, since they're the publisher and all.

What are the wrist bands for? We don't know of any event that might be held to warrant this. I doubt they'll be handed down to customers who buy Smash at launch, it's just a piece of paper.
 

Metto

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Oct 27, 2017
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Long twitter thread from Sourcegaming member on why the 'leak' is most likely fake.



after reading this, I am now #Teamfake

This is all literally fucking ridiculous. Like there's a mastermind out there that made a perfectly accurate leak for everything but Incineroar. Like what a mastermind not having the one easily identifiable character
 

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What are the wrist bands for? We don't know of any event that might be held to warrant this. I doubt they'll be handed down to customers who buy Smash at launch, it's just a piece of paper.

Press event for journos to play the game.
They went as far as giving me a bag, a notepad, a keyring and a bunch of cookies once.
 

Spinluck

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Oct 26, 2017
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The Rayman fake has absolutely nothing on this. That was merely a Splash Screen graphic + character select screen image fake that everyone and their mom jokingly makes or has made since Melee. The reason that thing was remotely believable was the original Rayman render.

This? This goes further beyond that. Way beyond the amount of time something like the above takes.

This has ESRB leak written all over it to me, to be honest. It's practically the same scenario.

Yeah, this is pretty much where I stand.

People went through some amazing mental gymnastics to deny the ESRB leak. Little Mac's face being plastered over Shulk's face is in the Smash leaks HoF because till this day I still do it on the character select screen of Smash 4 and laugh to myself.

Right now, nothing has been able to 100% debunk this and we are 65 pages in. It can still be an amazing fake of course, but I'm gonna have to ride on this more than the word of insiders for now. They miss far more than they land, although, I won't deny their cred entirely, and I respect them not completely outing what they hear from their sources.
 

Sebastopa

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Apr 27, 2018
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I'm on team fake because of no Incineroar. It's not just conjecture. This leak has a ton going for it? Well, so does Vergeben who has gotten nothing wrong as of yet in regards to Smash. I'm going to believe a proven, credible leaker over a blurry image that's probably the work of a very lonely neckbeard with too much time on his hands who wanted to create an elaborate leak for the sake of the lulz. Not to mention that, yes, this looks like a wishlist. If something seems too good to be true, it probably is. Be smart, everyone. The most credible combo we have at this point is Vergeben (gotten nothing wrong about Smash) and box theory (official material released by Nintendo).

Book it: the final two base roster characters are Ken and Incineroar, with a Square Enix two as the first DLC (possibly free to those who have purchased online, Mewtwo style).
Now now, i'm also trying to lower my expectations, but to have delusional blind faith on a Smash leaker? Seriously, Vergeben is no Gematsu, he has some stuff wrong and has provided much less evidence than this leak right here.

Box theory is just silly, Music theory is ironically more believable.
 
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To be honest, Mach Rider is kind of a random pick.

Most of the other retro characters we've gotten since Melee weren't just added for the sake of it. Pit got in because he was hella popular, R.O.B was included because of his importance to the NES' history, and Duck Hunt got in as a rep of the Light Gun Series. Mach Rider kind of feels like a random "throw a dart at a board" pick.

Could it be that Mach Rider is going to come to the online program offerings? And maybe you can share your custom stuff online with friends? I mean it seems flimsy but you never know.
 

Red Arremer

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Oct 26, 2017
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Yeah, this is pretty much where I stand.

People went through some amazing mental gymnastics to deny the ESRB leak. Little Mac's face being plastered over Shulk's face is in the Smash leaks HoF because till this day I still do it on the character select screen of Smash 4 and laugh to myself.

Right now, nothing has been able to 100% debunk this and we are 65 pages in. It can still be an amazing fake of course, but I'm gonna have to ride on this more than the word of insiders for now. They miss far more than they land, although, I won't deny their cred entirely, and I respect them not completely outing what they hear from their sources.

But Spinluck, Sakurai said not to expect too many newcomers! Clearly this means this HAS to be fake!
 

Maple

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Oct 27, 2017
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Long twitter thread from Sourcegaming member on why the 'leak' is most likely fake.



after reading this, I am now #Teamfake


So much of that is weak.

"So the main thing is the amount of effort this fake leaker must have gone for all the little details but that doesn't really prove anything".

Uhh, what?
 

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Someone on Reddit pointed out that the company isn't stated to work on NBC or Illumination who are making the Grinch movie. So why the hell would they choose the Grinch to make a fake leak come from a marketing firm if there wasn't any knowledge on them working on it before this leak?

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/9r00ln/the_grinchs_connection/e8d7nlk/

could just be a company working for another that is working for illumination
i mean we have no real way to prove or disprove this
 

HotHamBoy

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Oct 27, 2017
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You already got Cloud and Snake for classic PlayStation characters :p
???

Those aren't Sony characters.

Parappa is the quintessential 90s Sony Playstation character. He was the first iconic character made in-house and he was huge in Japan.

He's also responsible for the character-driven rhythm game genre taking off, pre-dating DDR, beatmania or taiko drum master, and we probably wouldn't have Chorus Kids without him.
 

TimeFire

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Nov 26, 2017
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Yeah, this is pretty much where I stand.

People went through some amazing mental gymnastics to deny the ESRB leak. Little Mac's face being plastered over Shulk's face is in the Smash leaks HoF because till this day I still do it on the character select screen of Smash 4 and laugh to myself.

Right now, nothing has been able to 100% debunk this and we are 65 pages in. It can still be an amazing fake of course, but I'm gonna have to ride on this more than the word of insiders for now. They miss far more than they land, although, I won't deny their cred entirely, and I respect them not completely outing what they hear from their sources.

Never forget:
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Mugy

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Oct 28, 2017
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ASaiyan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Could it be that Mach Rider is going to come to the online program offerings? And maybe you can share your custom stuff online with friends? I mean it seems flimsy but you never know.
Mach Rider is HAL Laboratory, and Sakurai has been working on an undisclosed new project since Kid Icarus Uprising. If he's in like Pit was in Brawl then I'd guess we are getting, of all things, a new Mach Rider game.
 

MaitreWakou

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May 15, 2018
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Long twitter thread from Sourcegaming member on why the 'leak' is most likely fake.



after reading this, I am now #Teamfake

Meh, nothing new here. Like, I get his point and it kinda makes sense, but really, it doesn't debunk the whole thing, just some conspiracy theories for it not to be real. I guess that they have just heard about Incineroar and Steve just like everyone else so they are trying to search every single thing to debunk it without spilling "my sources at Nintendo said Incineroar and Steve are in !"
 

Lunar15

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Oct 25, 2017
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The fact that this person is said to have worked at bandai namco but is somehow showing off Nintendo's promotional art is definitely weird. Namco wouldn't be responsible for any promotional items.
 

drclaw411

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Mar 22, 2018
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A blurry image and an incredible number of specific, verifiable details, though.

I don't doubt that there's other information out in the wild that some people ("insiders") are privvy to, but is it good information? And if so, what in the world have we been discussing all day? An elaborate hoax?

Yes, and elaborate hoax.

Someone on Reddit pointed out that the company isn't stated to work on NBC or Illumination who are making the Grinch movie. So why the hell would they choose the Grinch to make a fake leak come from a marketing firm if there wasn't any knowledge on them working on it before this leak?

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/9r00ln/the_grinchs_connection/e8d7nlk/

So much of that is weak.

"So the main thing is the amount of effort this fake leaker must have gone for all the little details but that doesn't really prove anything".

Uhh, what?

This leak is dying a slow, embarrassing death. To everybody who thinks people on the internet wouldn't do insanely elaborate stuff just for the lulz: please google 4chan Shia LaBeouf.
 

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literally on the reddit link the guy is saying that he's basing that on the site which hasn't been updated since 2010. haters of this leak are ridiculous lmao
 
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