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Which team are you in, hooman? (NOTE: Vote-changing disabled!)

  • #TeamReal

    Votes: 2,046 67.7%
  • #TeamFake

    Votes: 978 32.3%

  • Total voters
    3,024
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L Thammy

Spacenoid
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Oct 25, 2017
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Calling yourself an "insider" is like calling yourself a "medical doctor". Would you trust a "medical doctor"?
 

Metto

One Winged Slayer
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I can say that without endangering my sources, so yeah. Anyway, I'm seeing now that this wasn't worth it. I'm out. There's a lot that logistically doesn't make sense here though, if you think about it enough. For instance, do you really think Bandai Namco is handling marketing for Smash?
We just got proof this morning that these guys are handling some marketing for Smash Ultimate
 

Christo750

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May 10, 2018
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I can say that without endangering my sources, so yeah. Anyway, I'm seeing now that this wasn't worth it. I'm out. There's a lot that logistically doesn't make sense here though, if you think about it enough. For instance, do you really think Bandai Namco is handling marketing for Smash?
This doesn't say Bamco is handling marketing for Smash. It's saying the firm has worked with and for Bamco in the past. This is Nintendo's biggest game of the year, they can easily outsource some things.
We just got proof this morning that these guys are handling some marketing for Smash Ultimate
And this. Which frankly should shut this whole debate down.
 

LordofPwn

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Oct 27, 2017
4,402
No, the image we're looking at isn't *that* blurry, you can see by the lines. But the art that's put into the loop is *far* blurrier than the rest of the image.
1.) low res art is usually used for diagrams like in the image. There's no need to use a huge 300dpi image and mock-up a wrap with it.
2.) video compression, trust me. video compression with low bit rate hates fine details, but bold black line on white paper? it loves that stuff.

I'v had to do mockups for print work before and I've been dealing with digital video for over a decade now.
 

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you can't expect us to believe you when you offer some vague bs when insider's haven't gotten that much right about Nintendo for years now
 

barley

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Aug 16, 2018
312
this is the part I'm talking about

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Why is the art itself really blurry when the picture itself is not? Wouldn't it be a more normal resolution image wrapped around, like the one used for the longer, straighter piece of art also in the picture?

Nah, it's probably just a low res mockup. Doesn't discredit it.
 

Maple

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Oct 27, 2017
11,729


Honestly, outside of an actual HD video showing the characters in action, this is about as compelling as it gets in terms of circumstantial evidence.

The little details in the leaked mural make such a compelling case. Little things that have nothing to do with the new characters like Samus' blaster covering Pikachu's thunderbolt, etc. Little things like that just seem to give it some authenticity.

A very strong case here for this being real.
 

Lunar15

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Oct 25, 2017
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1.) low res art is usually used for diagrams like in the image. There's no need to use a huge 300dpi image and mock-up a wrap with it.
2.) video compression, trust me. video compression with low bit rate hates fine details, but bold black line on white paper? it loves that stuff.

I'v had to do mockups for print work before and I've been dealing with digital video for over a decade now.

Fair enough, it just seemed odd when there's another, less blurry version of the art elsewhere in the papers.
 

VinylCassette64

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
2,424
Was going to avoid this leak if it was true, but it was spoilered for me on tumblr, so oh well. -_-

Gonna just come in and say I hope it's fake; because it would mean my boy Rayman is again a no-show. ;_; (Let me hope.) I'm also in the camp that thinks Banjo in Smash is a longshot / unlikely given the MS / Rare scenario; not that I wouldn't be opposed to it. Moreover, I can't say I'm really enthused about Shadow being a second Sonic rep either. And it goes without saying; but it would also be pretty damn unfortunate if stuff Sakurai and company have been trying to keep under lock and key up until release really did get exposed two months prior to release.

With all that said, though, I would be cool if Isaac does get in though, given how Golden Sun fans have been wanting him to get in for years.
 
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Watchtower

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Oct 27, 2017
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The post makes one solid point that's been understated: this started from a Snapchat story. Not 4chan, not Reddit, not GameFAQs, not Twitter. Fucking Snapchat.

I don't know what's more annoying.

All these blurry leaks or all these people who know "insiders".

One is just as infuriating as the other.

I'm on Team "the insiders have been hearing Incineroar from the same circles the last several months and are hesitant because confirmation bias."

Checkmate, liberals.
 

NHarmonic.

▲ Legend ▲
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
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This ride has been far better than the pokemon leaks of the past years.

I still remember that chesnaught reveal when everyone jumped out of the ship.
 

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maybe someone working on the game awards knows Sora will be revealed there, but they don't realize he'll be DLC
 

db1416

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I can say that without endangering my sources, so yeah. Anyway, I'm seeing now that this wasn't worth it. I'm out. There's a lot that logistically doesn't make sense here though, if you think about it enough. For instance, do you really think Bandai Namco is handling marketing for Smash?
Fess up if you have something of value to say. Otherwise nobody cares about your "sources" that probably don't exist.
 

V_ac

Avenger
Jul 2, 2018
3,798
what are the reasons to believe it is fake?
There's too many new characters is my major reason for not believing it.

After Sakurai emphasising multiple times the newcomer amount is smaller then usual, and then saying that they probably front-loaded reveals after Isabelle was revealed, there's no way there's seven newcomers left.

I will say that everything else (aside from the whole "Bandai doing Smash marketing" thing) is believable, though.
 

Mr Swine

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
6,038
Sweden
No doubt, but it would make sense considering Eggman would require an entirely different moveset.

I would have seen him as a D.Va (from Overwatch) type character who fights in a mech that can be destroyed but is still playable albeit vulnerable outside of the mech.

I think Eggman is quite capable of fighting outside of his mech. But He should have his Death Egg Robot as final smash
 

Steve

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This doesn't say Bamco is handling marketing for Smash. It's saying the firm has worked with and for Bamco in the past. This is Nintendo's biggest game of the year, they can easily outsource some things.

And this. Which frankly should shut this whole debate down.

I'm not sure why you would think Bandai Namco would be responsible for making retail displays for a Nintendo-published game. This would be the first time in the history of Nintendo that they've had a third party developer handle the retail presentation of one of their games. What's the proof that Bamco is handling this?
 

Owl

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Oct 25, 2017
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California
Too many credible people saying it's not legit for ti to be real. Sounds like most of them are just saying that because Incineroar isn't included when they know he's in the game. And if this leak just isn't the final release day roster, that would be very weird to have an official event with wristbands like that and then have only Incineroar announced which would have to be very soon after whatever event the wristbands are for.

Maybe he was just cut for DLC, but I'm gonna hold out on this being fake so that I still have hope Bandana Waddle Dee is in.
 

G.O.O.

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Oct 26, 2017
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So what happens to the leaker or his company now if it's real ? Fired ? Blacklisted by nintendo ? Nothing ?
 

Choppasmith

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Oct 25, 2017
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Never thought I'd say that I couldn't give a damn about any of the newcomers in a new Smash game but here we are. Here's hoping the single player stuff has something good hidden inside.

As someone who kinda feels the same way, who were you really rooting for to get in? If you said already and I missed the post, I apologize. This htread moves so fast.

Reposting for new page, if I didn't add you in just quote me again! Also, we need Team Fakers to step it up.

Era, the only way we can truly settle this is a site wide avatar bet.

One month avatar bet, quote this post with what team you're on and I'll add you to the list. No more cowardice!

#TeamReal
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#TeamFake
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I gotta go with my gut and say Fake. Besides TeamFake just looks so lonely.
 

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I'm not sure why you would think Bandai Namco would be responsible for making retail displays for a Nintendo-published game. This would be the first time in the history of Nintendo that they've had a third party developer handle the retail presentation of one of their games. What's the proof that Bamco is handling this?
there's not a good reason to think that the company only works with Namco Bandai and not Nintendo. They haven't updated their list of clients in a while.
 

L Thammy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think Mach Rider is the first step toward ST Falcon. We're just being primed so we're ready for the most important character the franchise has ever had.
 

Empyrean Cocytus

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I feel like Mach Rider could just be a Captain Falcon echo. His moves would probably work the same, and you can just cut the Blue Falcon and paste his motorcycle.
 

Blackquill

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Everytime I said to myself "it has to be fake come on" and then there is another proof of it being real, I can't handle it
 

PMS341

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This legit looks like the three-tiered marketing panel that is above and behind most Gamestop registers.
 

Goodstyle

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Nov 1, 2017
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what are the reasons to believe it is fake?
Too good to be true.
Way too many characters for one month.
Every insider has conflicting info (not the best counter tbh)
Blurry as hell.
Shadows are off.
Long shot that Nintendo would put in Banjo.

I'm aware that there are counters to these reasons and there are so many reasons to believe this guy really is a marketing employee, but my gut is telling me this is all a con. I truly believe that this is the most elaborate and intricately planned fake leak ever released, but a fake leak nonetheless.
 

9-Volt

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Oct 27, 2017
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Hmm, there are still lots of franchises to cover is this game is to be "Ultimate". Can dlc do all of this? My guess for future dlc:

- Chibi Robo (just character)
- Lip (just character)
- Lara Croft (just character)
- Single gen 8 Pokémon and costumes
- Dragon Quest pack (Slime character, DQ8 mc assist trophy, stage, lots of music, couple of Mii costumes and lots of regular trophies)
- Crash Bandicoot pack (Crash character, Spyro assist, stage, costumes and regular trophies)
- Tecmo pack (Hayabusa character, Tecmo bowl assist, Ninja Gaiden stage, Rygar and Solomon's Key costumes, regular trophies)
- Ubisoft pack (two characters: Rayman and Prince, Rayman stage, Globox assist, Assassin's Creed, PoP, Tonic Trouble costumes, shitload of regular trophies)
- Rare pack (Joanna Dark character, Jet Force Gemini stage, Timber assist, DKR and Battletoads costumes, regular trophies)
 

ArchedThunder

Uncle Beerus
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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not going to join either team, but I will say I want this to be real because this would be an awesome final roster. The only disappointments I'd have would be no new Pokemon and no Dixie, but I think that's fine with everything else here.
 
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