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Which team are you in, hooman? (NOTE: Vote-changing disabled!)

  • #TeamReal

    Votes: 2,046 67.7%
  • #TeamFake

    Votes: 978 32.3%

  • Total voters
    3,024
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Metto

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,108
Yeah, no. That isn't why. The picture is blurry, sure, but most industry folks I've talked to have other, far more legit reasons for not believing this "leak".
Such as? Seriously we're dying to know these reasons if they really want to clear the air because there's nothing so far
 

Wamb0wneD

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
18,735
Reposting for new page, if I didn't add you in just quote me again! Also, we need Team Fakers to step it up.

Era, the only way we can truly settle this is a site wide avatar bet.

One month avatar bet, quote this post with what team you're on and I'll add you to the list. No more cowardice!

#TeamReal
Muzy
Splendy
Odeko
doop_
Martin
falcondoc
RailWays
CurseoftheGods
chezzymann
Lady Bow
caff!!!
Pancracio17
FleenerW
Bartend3r
Vesper

#TeamFake
Zyrox
#TeamReal
 
Oct 27, 2017
3,257
The only difference Chrom has from Roy is his up special. The rest of his moveset all comes from Roy. He does have different animations for his moves, but there's no reason they can't give Shadow new animations that better fit him.

Heck Chrom's not the only one with unique animations, the vast majority of Dark Samus' animations is different from Samus.
Chrom also has a unique final smash.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,994
This newcomer list is so beautiful. Fleshing out missing holes from previous consoles with Banjo, Isaac, and Chorus Kids. Geno and Mach Rider to an extent too, though we have enough NES characters. :P
 

janoGX

Banned
Nov 29, 2017
2,453
Chile
Banjo-Kazooie will be revealed at Nintendo Direct. And Nintendo will reveal Banjo-Kazooie Remastered (or remake) for Switch + XBO.
 

Skittzo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
41,037
Wait, wait, wait I got it. This leak isn't fake, it's just incomplete. Because this is only a picture of the first banner.

There's a whole second banner with another 78 fighters.




And then a third one too.
 

G.O.O.

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,089
Reposting for new page, if I didn't add you in just quote me again! Also, we need Team Fakers to step it up.

Era, the only way we can truly settle this is a site wide avatar bet.

One month avatar bet, quote this post with what team you're on and I'll add you to the list. No more cowardice!

#TeamReal
Muzy
Splendy
Odeko
doop_
Martin
falcondoc
RailWays
CurseoftheGods
chezzymann
Lady Bow
caff!!!
Pancracio17
FleenerW
Bartend3r
Vesper

#TeamFake
Zyrox
so #TeamFake . Not feeling it and I like the newcomers, if it ends up being fake I'll find consolation in bamboozling y'all
 

Cap G

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,488
This is a weird one, because it's actually mostly really unambitious. If I were to make a fake character list, it would have Mach rider, chorus kids, isaac, etc because those are characters that sakurai has pushed for in the past then cut (mach rider has been in a supposed major leak for every game since brawl), and some are clones so obvious they were getting in anyway (Ken and shadow)

But banjo and geno are so "dreams come true" level that it casts doubt. Geno I could believe due to the alternate costume but...banjo? A microsoft character, and a nod to Rare after they changed the goldeneye/perfect dark items? That would be nuts. But sakurai is nuts so...it could work. I doubt this, but holy hell thats a damn good roster.
 

Lunar15

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,647
this is the part I'm talking about

BOrDeW8.png


Why is the art itself really blurry when the picture itself is not? Wouldn't it be a more normal resolution image wrapped around, like the one used for the longer, straighter piece of art also in the picture?
 

Porygon

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,015
Mexicali
Reposting for new page, if I didn't add you in just quote me again! Also, we need Team Fakers to step it up.

Era, the only way we can truly settle this is a site wide avatar bet.

One month avatar bet, quote this post with what team you're on and I'll add you to the list. No more cowardice!

#TeamReal
Muzy
Splendy
Odeko
doop_
Martin
falcondoc
RailWays
CurseoftheGods
chezzymann
Lady Bow
caff!!!
Pancracio17
FleenerW
Bartend3r
Vesper

#TeamFake
Zyrox
#TeamReal
 

Wamb0wneD

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
18,735

Deleted member 32561

User requested account closure
Banned
Nov 11, 2017
3,831
Reposting for new page, if I didn't add you in just quote me again! Also, we need Team Fakers to step it up.

Era, the only way we can truly settle this is a site wide avatar bet.

One month avatar bet, quote this post with what team you're on and I'll add you to the list. No more cowardice!

#TeamReal
Muzy
Splendy
Odeko
doop_
Martin
falcondoc
RailWays
CurseoftheGods
chezzymann
Lady Bow
caff!!!
Pancracio17
FleenerW
Bartend3r
Vesper

#TeamFake
Zyrox
Unfortunately I'm already in a betting list for Box Theory/"are there more than 2 newcomers including echos left". So I can't join just in case, I can't have two avas at once.

But I WOULD be on TeamReal...
 

Spinluck

▲ Legend ▲
Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
28,429
Chicago
If you put Banjo in SMash 4 that would've already cemented it as the best fighting game roster ever.

This would just be overkill.

This would be Sakurai's walk off shot off into the sunset.
 

Red Arremer

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
12,259
Is Custom Robo popular in Japan? If the game sells well (which it should) and some work was done on him I imagine we'll get him as DLC. Same, even moreso, with Dixie. Unless DLC is all third party and newer releases I think Dixie is a shoe in.

Ish. It's one of those beta series that have been lying largely dormant since the mid 2000s like F-Zero, Advance Wars or Golden Sun. It's not big, but it's done decently well, enough for the GameCube game to get released in NA and the DS game in all regions. Though I assume the sales for those weren't strong enough to justify an additional entry in the series.

I imagine that if Ray had made it into Smash, interest in a revival of the games would resurge, though. It's a pretty good series.

Lol thanks you guys.

So Mach Rider will use guns to attack?

Probably, and also involve his bike. It's hard to say because the actual game and the toy as well are mainly based around the bike. He's kind of like Captain Falcon in a lot of ways, even though he's got a bit more involvement in the NES game.

Disappointing. Was hoping for more out of the blue characters. I guess Banjo is.

And Mach Rider isn't?
 

nopressure

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,414
Yeah, no. That isn't why. The picture is blurry, sure, but most industry folks I've talked to have other, far more legit reasons for not believing this "leak".

So basically there's no reason to trust them.

Unless someone wants to poke their head out and outright say a specific part of the leak is wrong, it's all meaningless (missing characters does not make this leak wrong).
 

Angst

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,422
Reposting for new page, if I didn't add you in just quote me again! Also, we need Team Fakers to step it up.

Era, the only way we can truly settle this is a site wide avatar bet.

One month avatar bet, quote this post with what team you're on and I'll add you to the list. No more cowardice!

#TeamReal
Muzy
Splendy
Odeko
doop_
Martin
falcondoc
RailWays
CurseoftheGods
chezzymann
Lady Bow
caff!!!
Pancracio17
FleenerW
Bartend3r
Vesper
Wamb0wneD

#TeamFake
Zyrox
G.O.O.


#teamreal
 

Amnixia

▲ Legend ▲
The Fallen
Jan 25, 2018
10,411
Reposting for new page, if I didn't add you in just quote me again! Also, we need Team Fakers to step it up.

Era, the only way we can truly settle this is a site wide avatar bet.

One month avatar bet, quote this post with what team you're on and I'll add you to the list. No more cowardice!

#TeamReal
Muzy
Splendy
Odeko
doop_
Martin
falcondoc
RailWays
CurseoftheGods
chezzymann
Lady Bow
caff!!!
Pancracio17
FleenerW
Bartend3r
Vesper
Wamb0wneD

#TeamFake
Zyrox
G.O.O.

Teamreal!
 

Maple

Member
Oct 27, 2017
11,720
That Gamexplain video said one of the reasons they think the leak is fake is because the shadows don't look right, and this is the example they gave:

Y82hRxA.jpg





But, those shadows are the EXACT SAME as the ones that appear in the most recent official character banner:


SNkVVKq.png
 

RochHoch

One Winged Slayer
Member
May 22, 2018
18,879
Count me on #TeamReal

There's way too much going for that leak, to the circumstances surrounding the leak itself to the details like Isaac standing on grass and the shading on Chorus Kids.
 

Christo750

Member
May 10, 2018
4,263
For this to be fake, the leaker would have had to make a fake linkedin a for french company that works with bamco years in advance, upload a video to snapchat with a very small shot of the fake leak, put in extra grinch stuff because ?????, make a post on 4chan with the same content a month earlier, and expect people to find art and check the details based on a blurry screen from a snapchat video.
Exactlyyyyyy.

Team REAL, folks.

funny how everyone knows reasons as to why this leak is fake but no one dares saying even one of those reasons
Did someone else say something?
 

Tavernade

Tavernade
Moderator
Sep 18, 2018
8,617
No no Pokemon is the only thing that really sticks out. Every Smash has had at least one new Pokemon and there are so many to choose from it's hard to believe they couldn't adapt a moveset for one of them.

It's possible Sakurai didn't want to pull a Greninja again and decided that Pokemon Trainer returning was enough. With no way to gauge popularity until the new games were out anyways, doing a Pokemon as DLC ensured they'd be able to get a fan favorite instead of guessing and also let fan favorites get in.

I just got here, has there been a discussion about whether:
A. This is it. The 'box leak' shows they didn't put out marketing with unrevealed characters.
B. Like the Mewtwo reveal, it's possible they'll reveal DLC in the final direct. Is it possible the first DLC character is a part of this image?
C. It makes a ton of sense to show Shadow and Ken at once.
 

Metto

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,108
That Gamexplain video said one of the reasons they think the leak is fake is because the shadows don't look right, and this is the example they gave:

Y82hRxA.jpg





But, those shadows are the EXACT SAME as the ones that appear in the most recent official character banner:


SNkVVKq.png
I think you're using the same picture. The shadows in the leaked photo are missing
 

Dyle

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
29,904
Reposting for new page, if I didn't add you in just quote me again! Also, we need Team Fakers to step it up.

Era, the only way we can truly settle this is a site wide avatar bet.

One month avatar bet, quote this post with what team you're on and I'll add you to the list. No more cowardice!

#TeamReal
Muzy
Splendy
Odeko
doop_
Martin
falcondoc
RailWays
CurseoftheGods
chezzymann
Lady Bow
caff!!!
Pancracio17
FleenerW
Bartend3r
Vesper
Wamb0wneD

#TeamFake
Zyrox
G.O.O.
Put me on #TeamFake because I want BGBW to fuck my shit up again, Suzuho wasn't bad enough. Plus I'm still holding out on this being an elaborate fake made with some real assets, despite all the evidence to the contrary
 

WadeIt0ut

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,985
Iowa
The guy who snapchatted this no longer works for the company according to that Nintendo France fansite. So it could just be incomplete because the finalized banner happened after this guy left.
 

Jawmuncher

Crisis Dino
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
38,396
Ibis Island
It's funny that people see Banjo as this big impossibility when to me, he's barely a stretch just with how chummy MS and Nintendo have been lately.

If this is real. I got a feeling we'll be seeing a lot more Nintendo & MS things.
 

Spinluck

▲ Legend ▲
Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
28,429
Chicago
Dr Eggman got robbed if Shadow is in >>>:O

No doubt, but it would make sense considering Eggman would require an entirely different moveset.

I would have seen him as a D.Va (from Overwatch) type character who fights in a mech that can be destroyed but is still playable albeit vulnerable outside of the mech.
 

LordofPwn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,402
There's one thing that really bothers me. In the back of the pictures is that "ring" where the art would be wrapped into a circle. However, the image transposed onto that loop is blurry while the lines around it are not. Why would that loop have blurry art on it when the picture itself isn't that blurry?
video compression/bitrate is the reason.
 

HylianSeven

Shin Megami TC - Community Resetter
Member
Oct 25, 2017
19,031
Yeah, no. That isn't why. The picture is blurry, sure, but most industry folks I've talked to have other, far more legit reasons for not believing this "leak".
Such as what? You don't have to say "Well X character that I know about and am not supposed to talk about isn't there", but at least something like "I know some characters are missing."
 

Empyrean Cocytus

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
18,695
Upstate NY
Reposting for new page, if I didn't add you in just quote me again! Also, we need Team Fakers to step it up.

Era, the only way we can truly settle this is a site wide avatar bet.

One month avatar bet, quote this post with what team you're on and I'll add you to the list. No more cowardice!

#TeamReal
Muzy
Splendy
Odeko
doop_
Martin
falcondoc
RailWays
CurseoftheGods
chezzymann
Lady Bow
caff!!!
Pancracio17
FleenerW
Bartend3r
Vesper
Wamb0wneD

#TeamFake
Zyrox
G.O.O.

Okay, I'm on team real

Still mad I can't do my John InCenaroar cosplay now.
 
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Steve

Good Vibes Gaming
Verified
Oct 24, 2017
79
Parts Unknown
I'm team real because all of these "insiders" doubting it seem to not actually realize where the picture came from. They keep talking about how blurry it is and ask why it's blurry. The original shot isn't blurry and it came from snapchat.

Such as? Seriously we're dying to know these reasons if they really want to clear the air because there's nothing so far

yet these reasons mysteriously cannot be stated.

do you know something or?

It isn't my info to give out. The people I've spoken with have done so knowing I wouldn't leak information, but I can tell you those I've spoken to have all unequivocally said that this "leak" isn't legit.
 
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