It's in line with the Music Theory.
Mach Rider seems to fit the weapon toy Sakurai was using for references.
I believe.
Mach Rider seems to fit the weapon toy Sakurai was using for references.
I believe.
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RUMOR: Massive Smash Ultimate leak is allegedly an emotional roller coaster [UPDATES IN OP]
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Who's the other unique rep from Sega?
Also: Sora's moveset seems impossible to do well without Disney characters, or at least references, and I truly can't imagine that's happening in Smash Bros.
There's always the possibility that Incineroar was in the original design doc but got scrapped at some point during development. He could also be a Spirits boss. Just saying "Incineroar is in the game" doesn't necessariy guarantee it unless he was identified relatively recently as playable.
Man these Smash fakers really going to great lengths nowadays.
Props to you for your super professionnal stance on this.
Liam "Shovel Knight is without a doubt in Smash 4" Robertson
Incineroar could truly be the Chrom of this cycle.
Also this is the first time since verg we actually had someone reliable come out and say Incineroar so thank you APZonerunner ! This helps a lot with trying to put the bigger picture together.
Also this is the first time since verg we actually had someone reliable come out and say Incineroar so thank you APZonerunner ! This helps a lot with trying to put the bigger picture together.
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Definitely but you have to respect the other side too. It's a possibility Incineror is an actual character on the roster and that's why insiders know this leak is fake. There's no way to prove otherwise and both sides are equally compelling. People need to chill out and take it easy. Seeing a lot of arguments here for no reason.
Geno fits the mii skin pattern
Chorus Kid was cut from smash 4
Ken and Shadow are literall pallete swaps. Easiest 5 minutes they got.
Isaac has the rathalos screen and how he is nowhere to be seen as an AT so far
Banjo has the
Bayonetta is the other SEGA character
Hopefully Sakurai can get over himself and properly implement the Disney characters into Sora's moveset. Not having them there would be a disservice to the character and franchise. Also Roxas echo of course
I was just going to talk about Incineroar in this context. Like, the problem with some insiders not playing ball with why they think certain things is that we have to guess the info. What if they've heard the same info as Vergeben, but they got it from same source, that turn up to be wrong? Then they're not adding any credibility to Incineroar being in, so to say.
Basically, just want to talk a bit about why insiders being vague means little to me. I still don't believe this leak (hard to believe any leak until info starts getting confirmed) at this stage and if they're not gonna bother deconfirming it then it's pretty meaningless.
Roster was locked down before those games were even announced, any ARMS or XC2 characters would be DLC
You pretty much made an argument for the opposing side. The fact that it's so risky makes it less likely that someone would do it, and if it's fake they have nothing to lose.
Xenoblade 2 didn't even exist in any meaningful capacity when the characters were decided for Ultimate. It was never going to be represented unless it came via DLC.
Only thing about this leak that seems off to me is the lack of any new Pokemon. Pokemon is clearly Nintendo's biggest or second biggest franchise, not getting a new character would be genuinely surprising.
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Dude is probably fired even if it's fake, his real name is out there
The previous characters weren't placed in existing holes. Other characters were moved to make room for them.
The way the art is being done here makes it easy to move them around. It's not all hand drawn as one piece, they just treat the characters as stickers and put them wherever they like.
Having this many characters left would actually make sense if that ridiculous rumour of having 2 directs next month ended up true.
Banjo being announced after a hypothetical N64 mini reveal in a general direct just makes sense
Banjo being announced after a hypothetical N64 mini reveal in a general direct just makes sense
You're dead right to think if somebody is being vague it's probably best just to take it as slightly informed speculation rather than any confirmation, because at the end of the day with a lot of leaks like this you've got people skating on super thin ice rumors from super shaky sources, and that's why a lot of people won't put up and put it down in writing or video in a more formal manner. I firmly believe out there in the 'insider space' or whatever the full roster is out there, but it's mixed in with a bunch of BS as well.
This is why none of this roster stuff has ever been reported on big sites, too, because nobody can actually verify anything, so anywhere with a high editorial standard on leaks and rumors can't get it off the ground. Somebody mentioned Pokemon Stars in this thread, mind, and that's a different sort of scenario - you know when a site like Eurogamer writes a quality report like that it has been double or triple-sourced and checked over multiple times. Nobody can do that with this Smash stuff, I don't think, so it's a bit of a crapshoot.
The roster was finalized on 2015. Those characters are probably first wave dlc.
I personally hope this whole ordeal isn't some malicious shit from 4chan against a worker of a company, and more of a slip up by himself.
Mach Rider, I remember his trophy in Melee as if it were from yesterday.
His trophy was one of coolest ones with his motorcycle with weapons.
Almost wanted him as a figure when I played Melee in my childhood.
But I NEVER thought he would have a comeback in Smash as a vehicle-based(?) fighter!
Now I may understand the love for Geno, BUT Geno IS still a side-character from ONE game, while Mach Rider is the MAIN-character from ONE game and that is a BIG different.
Between Mach Rider or Exicte Bike (Rider), MR does sound cooler and the fighter possiblity are greater with him for he had not only a motorcycle but weapons too and being from the "future" helps a lot too with weirder stuff like jumping or his Final Smash
His trophy was one of coolest ones with his motorcycle with weapons.
Almost wanted him as a figure when I played Melee in my childhood.
But I NEVER thought he would have a comeback in Smash as a vehicle-based(?) fighter!
Now I may understand the love for Geno, BUT Geno IS still a side-character from ONE game, while Mach Rider is the MAIN-character from ONE game and that is a BIG different.
Between Mach Rider or Exicte Bike (Rider), MR does sound cooler and the fighter possiblity are greater with him for he had not only a motorcycle but weapons too and being from the "future" helps a lot too with weirder stuff like jumping or his Final Smash
I asked the same thing and a few other posters gave a likely reason: probably too recent to be included in the base Smash Ultimate release.
If we see any characters from these games, they will likely come as DLC.
Or not? I mean I am glad he said something so that the more logical of us can temper our expectations. You are right though going forward maybe he shouldn't if he doesn't want a lot of unwarranted abuse. He doesn't work at Nintendo, he isn't going to be 100% positive, but clearly has heard whispers indicating this is unlikely. He also isn't some random on the internet who might be looking for 10 minutes of fame, he works in the gaming industry and is just saying this as a heads up, has a career to protect so of course he is going to say as little as possible as to the reasons which might be actual information Nintendo doesn't want getting out
People just shouldn't get upset with him, no excuses.
Thanks for the reply :) appreciate to hear your take on this.
Honestly without knowing any details at all they might as well be on the Vergeben train with maybe some source of their own who also says Incineroar which might be because they're on that train too, like who knows? Not us at least since we're just told how things are.
I actually have no problem with Incineroar as a Spirits boss. He is a heel wrestler
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