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Benita

Banned
Aug 27, 2018
862
It makes perfect sense. A company making multiple transphobic comments is indicative of a larger issue in the organization. You trying to compare it to Amazon is both unfair and dishonest. Amazon highlights a systemic issue of capitalism. You literally would not be able to purchase anything if you're going to attempt to hold yourself to those values, as all organizations in a capitalistic society are built on exploiting workers for higher profits. Meanwhile plenty of game companies aren't continually making transphobic comments on twitter, so it's much more realistic goal to not purchase from one that does.
No, I disagree. Amazon's entire operating model exists to subjugate thousands of employees, exploit companies which become dependent on its distribution, and leech money from the communities in which it operates.

The CDPR tweets are gross but they're the actions of an individual and whilst the way they've dealt with them is weak, it's presumptive to suggest that they're reflective of the entire organisation.

Also, making your decisions on who/what to boycott based on 'ease' makes a mockery of doing it in the first place.
 

Axisofweevils

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,842
Nothing really. The games that are most effected by these greedy policies are usually ones I have no interest in,. For example, you could say I'm boycotting EA but I don't really like their games anyway and when they release that awesome Lonely Sea game, I'll buy it.

Also, if a game looks awesome I'll buy it even if I heavily disagree with the Devs politics.
 

Faithless

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,183
Absolutely NONE.

I just don't buy if I don't like it.
(for whatever reason like heavy lootboxes mechanics and others similar practices).
 

Dark_Castle

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,147
Tacit endorsement of homophobia and war crime denier
To be honest, I'm not sure what Square Enix could do with Sugiyama though. The pos seemingly hold a lot of power and influence, and at least Square can't afford to piss off a man of that position in the risk of facing financial challenges and doubts from their shareholders. And unlike CDPR, Square at least acknowledged Sugiyama's assholeness and dissociates him from the company by denying his representation of the company. Besides I don't think Sugiyama is an employee of Square Enix, at least not now. He's just contracted to compose the music of Dragon Quest series, which has always been Sugiyama's rights. Part of why DQXI's music is owned by Sugiyama, not Square Enix. Square Enix also said they employee people of all orientation, background, and such. I know Wan Hazmer, a Malaysian who works for SE, involved in FF15. I don't think they lied there.

So.
 

tenderbrew

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
1,807
Think it's a stretch to call some of these boycotts, but w/e. Looking, guess there is no sanctioned "size". Figured it was only a boycott if a lot of people did it.

Then I guess I boycott thousands (millions?) of things, because whether I engage in the voluntary exchange with a company due to it's practices/product/behavior, these things are literally always a factor.
 

AceofSpades

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
300
I boycott nothing Im interested in.. I don't care about other people views or whatever. Once I find a game I like, I simply buy it for my own entertainment.
 

Deleted member 41271

User requested account closure
Banned
Mar 21, 2018
2,258
There are several devs from which I do not buy anymore, CDP is an obvious one, as are the couple other devs with similar leanings.
There's others I just don't trust anymore. Monolith games I just won't buy anymore until I hear from people whose tastes I respect that the thing is good, same goes for SEGA games, and EA games.

So...overall, there's a small handful of devs I avoid, and a small handful whose games I just assume are bad until proven otherwise. So..not many, really. That's like 7 devs total.
 

BobZhn

Member
Nov 17, 2017
191
SE Asia
Never boycotted any of them, never know when they come out with something you really like.

Nonetheless the aim is to not pay full price for any software from EA (for botching Sims/SimCity) or Microsoft Studios (for WinStore/UWP/Metro UI abomination).
 

Weltall Zero

Game Developer
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
19,343
Madrid
I was referring more to people saying they are boycotting EA or CD Project Red as the loss to them will be very minimal and almost certainly not even noticeable. I get it that you don't want support scummy things / people but there's more to a game being made then a few bad apples at least when it comes to these massive games and studios.

The "my own single small contribution isn't going to change things either way" is the same lazy excuse people use not to vote. It's bad enough that you use it not to take any action yourself, but being proud and flaunting it in a public space? Come on, man.

The "few bad apples" excuse doesn't fly when the statement is made in their public twitter account and no apology is offered afterwards. Even if one were to somehow believe it's just "the twitter guy", higher ups would make sure he apologizes properly, if not directly fire him after the third strike. I mean, we have examples of other companies deciding to cut ties with CDPR because of this. Surely they know better than anyone else what can accidently slip through the cracks and what is clearly a corporate policy.

Buy the game if you want, but don't lie to yourself why you're doing it.
 

RPGam3r

Member
Oct 27, 2017
13,519
None.

I can usual separate the art from the artist, or in a lot the gaming world artists. Even if the artists' views seep into the game I feel I have enough mental fortitude to not sway my point of view.

In the recent case involving CDPR I'm not going to avoid their game bc their rep is trash. I have no proof thats how their in-the-trenches devs/designers/qa etc feel and so I'm not interested in punishijg them.
 

Deleted member 37739

User requested account closure
Banned
Jan 8, 2018
908
No, I disagree. Amazon's entire operating model exists to subjugate thousands of employees, exploit companies which become dependent on its distribution, and leech money from the communities in which it operates.

The CDPR tweets are gross but they're the actions of an individual and whilst the way they've dealt with them is weak, it's presumptive to suggest that they're reflective of the entire organisation.

Also, making your decisions on who/what to boycott based on 'ease' makes a mockery of doing it in the first place.

Great comment - I avoid Amazon like the plague, for what little good it likely does.
 

YoEssay

Banned
Nov 3, 2017
247
I know sometimes someone in a company will say stuff that could infuriate me in some way, but I have to think that a game is not just made by that person. Games are made by dozens if not hundreds of people that worked hard on them before release.
With that premise in mind, personally I don't think boycotting games is fair with the entire team that worked on said game.

Also, in my opinion, stopping myself from enjoying a video game (which is my ultimate hobby) is counterproductive, especially if it's only because of someone's comments or points of views that I do not share.
Hmmm. Very good point IMO. I've never boycotted a game, but yeah, the whole team who worked on it is suffering from it too just cause you didnt like one person. Certain actions dont speak for an entire company.
 

Deleted member 12447

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,173
Red Dead Redemption 2. I believe violence should not be something we applaud any longer. I feel everyone should join me in boycotting RDR2. #BOYCOTTRDR2 and instead pick up a good wholesome and clean game. One with family values like Spider-Man, or God of War. Games like Red Dead and Tetris should be sent to the gulag for their filth.
 

HighFive

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,633
Last game i remember i boycott was Destiny. I felt it was a ripoff of Borderlands, it was one type of game i found unique, a fps, with humor, good storyline, non linear, nice ´ cell shading visual, and in it it was a lootfest a la Diablo. I was like pissed inside , they took the like ´mmo ´ single player experience, stamp an ´online ´ experience with it, made more serious, i was like no way ill be interested in it.

But one day i gave it a try, a few hours, out of a 5$ copy i was able to grab, and was never able to get into it. It was fine looking, but everything that made me love Borderlands, i felt nothing was in it. Never bothered with the serie after.
 

LuisGarcia

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
3,478
I don't really see how not buying a game is helpful especially if it's a big studio.

Hundreds of people work on most games.
 

DJKippling

Member
Nov 1, 2017
923
The "my own single small contribution isn't going to change things either way" is the same lazy excuse people use not to vote. It's bad enough that you use it not to take any action yourself, but being proud and flaunting it in a public space? Come on, man.

The "few bad apples" excuse doesn't fly when the statement is made in their public twitter account and no apology is offered afterwards. Even if one were to somehow believe it's just "the twitter guy", higher ups would make sure he apologizes properly, if not directly fire him after the third strike. I mean, we have examples of other companies deciding to cut ties with CDPR because of this. Surely they know better than anyone else what can accidently slip through the cracks and what is clearly a corporate policy.

Buy the game if you want, but don't lie to yourself why you're doing it.

Thank you for telling me why I'm buying these games... I'm buying the games because I want to play the games. its that simple. I do not support scummy things people post on twitter etc but i do support the devs and their hardwork. The public face of the company do not even make the game and certainly do not represent those peoples personal views. Regardless of what you think, me not buying it would make zero difference but I was never not going to buy it anyway.
 

spineduke

Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
8,754
The "my own single small contribution isn't going to change things either way" is the same lazy excuse people use not to vote. It's bad enough that you use it not to take any action yourself, but being proud and flaunting it in a public space? Come on, man.

Buy the game if you want, but don't lie to yourself why you're doing it.

the flaunting is especially amusing to see here - it comes from a place of anger and indignation. Again, the same dogmatic worship of companies and brands as extensions of peoples selves.
 

Altera

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
1,963
I won't buy A Hat In Time because JonTron and apparently the dev isn't that great themselves.

I won't buy RDR2 because I found the mocrotransactions in GTAV online to be disgusting and I expect it to be the same in RDR2.
 

Arih

Member
Jan 19, 2018
471
Why the hell would you boycott something? Don't like it, don't buy it. What is wrong with you people?...
 

Deleted member 16039

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
793
So, which developer/publisher attitudes made you boycott a long waited game?

EDIT :
Not really "boycott" but more like something I'm not attracted to.

Detroit: Become Human: Same as you, OP, except I really think Heavy Rain took everyone for idiots, especially when you watch the making of where David "De Grutola" Cage explains that he removed tons of scenes that explained what was going on during the "black out scenes" but he removed the scenes... and let the blackouts in the game, without explaining why (yes : they makes no sense). Also, there's so many things wrong with the killer scenario... it's a shame because the graphics and music were awesome. And yeah, Beyond is terrible and the QD work place atmosphere is even worse.

Kingdom come deliverance: Same as OP.

Red Dead Redemption 2: At first I was completly stupid ; I thought it was gonna be a "Origins story" of Marston and I couldn't give a damn to this. Now I know a bit more but I'm a not a big fan of Rockstar (hated GTA V characters from start to finish and most of the missions) and the recent stories didn't helped. I'll keep my RDR 1 on Xbox One.

That's all. I might give Destiny 3 the middle finger, tho.
 

Gray

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,941
Overkill's games because of the added microtransactions to Payday 2 a couple of years ago. They backtracked after the resulting outcry and removed them but they would have left them in if they could get away with it. Fuck that and fuck them. Used to be a huge supporter of the game but I won't buy one more thing from that developer.
 

mas8705

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,497
Honestly the only game I can recall boycotting was Dynasty Warriors 9. The change to open world and the end result was too much for my heart to handle and left me disappointed at the end result.