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Geno

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I guess this also lines up with Tansut saying Nintendo got mad from a leak? Leak was posted 28 of September. Everything lines up.
 

TheDinoman

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If (IF) this is actually somehow real and Banjo & Kazooie are in, would this be the first time in gaming history that a first party character appeared on a rival competitor's platform in a major way (ie not just a small cameo or easter egg)?
 

Oddish1

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Oct 25, 2017
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Eh that's still very different. This is the first time we've had someone leak something new that was entirely unrelated. The Rayman leak also used the original renders for the characters instead of adding new ones onto existing characters as with this leak.

And the Rayman leak is very different from just any leak lol. But even for that one, the video is what got many to confirm that it was fake due to inconsistencies with the footage. This doesn't have any glaring flaws outside of people not believing it.
The Rayman one didn't have any glaring flaws until it was fake, and then all of a sudden it was so obvious in hindsight, look at all the flaws.
 

Neoxon

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Realistically, that many unique newcomers seems like a bit much when we're this close to the end. You'd think that one of them would be revealed this month if we had that many left.

Either way, I need to take a shower to fully wake myself up.
 

Jahranimo

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Well I'm gonna go sleep for another two hours or so. Hopefully something escalates from this during that time.
 

Rotobit

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Wait, is there a new leak?

Hate to repost my own stuff but I tried to sum up the key points earlier

I've put together three of the banners, including the leaked one, so we can compare and contrast:

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Top: Current, Post-Isabelle Banner
Middle: Leak
Bottom: E3 Banner

  • Luigi, Sheik and the Mii Fighters have been moved considerably. Luigi is now near the middle, left of Ken, all of the Mii Fighters are to the top right of Mewtwo, and I dunno where Sheik is.
  • Jigglypuff is shifted slightly up, next to Geno, and you can see her full art.
  • This is the first time we've seen Greninja's full tongue I think.
  • Isaac is standing on some weird green... stuff? I assume it's meant to be Psyenergy?
  • Inkling is now actually looking at someone, thanks to Mach Rider.

I decided to look into the part of the leak that might be overlooked - The Grinch. It's in the background in a couple of spots.

Universal Studios, which is distributing the film, is not listed as part of the company's references, though that's not saying too much since the movie's merchandising could be handled by a third party, like Hasbro, which is listed. Their site also still has a 2010 copyright so who knows how up-to-date it is.

Another Grinch oddity - the ornament (?) with the dog is based on this promotional art but with one major difference - the Grinch is facing the other way. As in, the ornament folds over, and there's a front and back face. I can't find a single render of The Grinch's back, although admittedly I'm not spending my Wednesday morning looking at that many Grinch images. But if such a thing isn't freely available, and this is fake, then the faker decided to also mock up The Grinch renders of all things.

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Finally, and perhaps most importantly, The Grinch's cinema run in France begins on November 28th. It makes sense that it'd be in the same batch as Smash, given their release proximity.
 

Bard

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Goddamn, great news to wake up to. Hope this is real because the roster would be almost perfection, but all of these newcomers would be amazing.
 

ResetGreyWolf

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I've put together three of the banners, including the leaked one, so we can compare and contrast:

lz0DPCt.jpg


Top: Current, Post-Isabelle Banner
Middle: Leak
Bottom: E3 Banner

  • Luigi, Sheik and the Mii Fighters have been moved considerably. Luigi is now near the middle, left of Ken, all of the Mii Fighters are to the top right of Mewtwo, and I dunno where Sheik is.
  • Jigglypuff is shifted slightly up, next to Geno, and you can see her full art.
  • This is the first time we've seen Greninja's full tongue I think.
  • Isaac is standing on some weird green... stuff? I assume it's meant to be Psyenergy?
  • Inkling is now actually looking at someone, thanks to Mach Rider.

Just checked into Era to find this. Great post/summary, my dude

Holy shit this is huge if true. That's way more characters than I think most of us were expecting, even those who thought there would be more than two. After Rayman I'm still skeptical as always but this is a really good fake if it's really fake
 

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If we're really being nitpicky, Banjo's art looks a lot more like a mirror version of this one than the Smashfied render.

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EDIT: Or this one, which even features Kazooie looking to the left (right in the Smash mirrored version) just the same way.

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Hikari

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I guess if this is real then we can expect KOS-MOS as namco rep dlc given her relevance is super strong after Sakurai finalized the roster. That's when she became most popular with Xenoblade 2.
 

Kiro

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Isaac is causing grass to grow. Growth is a psynergy he uses. That's a cool level of detail I could see Sakurai and co. Adding but not most leakers.
 

SunnyD

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I've put together three of the banners, including the leaked one, so we can compare and contrast:

lz0DPCt.jpg


Top: Current, Post-Isabelle Banner
Middle: Leak
Bottom: E3 Banner

  • Luigi, Sheik and the Mii Fighters have been moved considerably. Luigi is now near the middle, left of Ken, all of the Mii Fighters are to the top right of Mewtwo, and I dunno where Sheik is.
  • Jigglypuff is shifted slightly up, next to Geno, and you can see her full art.
  • This is the first time we've seen Greninja's full tongue I think.
  • Isaac is standing on some weird green... stuff? I assume it's meant to be Psyenergy?
  • Inkling is now actually looking at someone, thanks to Mach Rider.

where are Banjo's legs!? For the life of me I can't see them

EDIT: Oh shit nevermind he's flying, now I see. Wow this is a lot of unique detail for a leak.
 

Kiro

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Sheik is top left above yoshi. Where the slice line is. Everyone is there.

This really seems well made and carefully crafted, in multiple ways.
 
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