Rather than "downplaying it" I would assume he and others are saying that SE could've gotten the game in more hands if they handled the western release differently.
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NPD: DQ XI had the biggest launch month in franchise history, dollar sales more than double DQ9
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By looking at how JRPGs were localized like two decades ago (or ones coming over the west rather quickly), you'd better be appreciating devs actually taking time for localization.. The way DQ localization is handled has become much better (it doesn't miss the aesthetics existed at Japanese version, IMHO).
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I mean you can also argue that it's on the biggest platform of all time DS, cheaper, and DQ11 is on a very stacked month. I mean there's a lot BUTs on both side if you really want to find it
Not surprised.
DQ never had proper support outside Japan. Besides the $ value for a PS4 game is nearly twice the value of a 3DS or DS game.
DQ never had proper support outside Japan. Besides the $ value for a PS4 game is nearly twice the value of a 3DS or DS game.
Feel it would done a bit better if it came out in the summer .
Still not bad and hopefully SE can grow it from here .
Still not bad and hopefully SE can grow it from here .
Are you not confident of the Switch version of DQXI will be selling that much to help the overall sales of DQXI?
Console warring, cute.
Your second paragraph isn't entirely wrong at least. DQ9 came out in the summer, which DQ11 should have as well and Square were stupid not to. Also PS4 has a rather huge playerbase, and Sony often has the lions share of the JRPG demographic compared to Nintendo.
It's going to be two years late, so no. It would probably have to sell a million copies to make up the deficit with DQIX.
That's exactly what I'm saying. You asked me to choose between too many games, and DQ lost out. I'm coming back around for it, but where was it in those boring summer months when I was begging for it?
We have had far too many "think pieces" written on this forum discussing why Dragon Quest doesn't sell in North America. Just in case you aren't aware, the apparent reasons for Dragon Quest XI's "failure" are... its monster designs, its core gameplay, it's music, its lighthearted tone, and its difficulty (so every single element of the game). So yes, we need to hear this stuff.
I wonder what is the difference in units sales, and what are the actual ps4 sales numbers...
Wouldn't be surprised if S-E isn't happy anyway based on their past interviews.
Still think they should bring the 3DS version herr, hopefully its content will at least be in the Switch version...
Wouldn't be surprised if S-E isn't happy anyway based on their past interviews.
Still think they should bring the 3DS version herr, hopefully its content will at least be in the Switch version...
The latest jrpg released for both the Switch and PS4 have shown the Switch version to sell on par or exceed the PS4 version more often than not. Unfortunately we don't have many datapoints yet to see if it's a trend or rare occurences
Valkyria Chronicles was out years later on PC and still managed to sell more than a million. Dark Souls did well too, and many other examples that I couldn't think of right now. I know that the audiences are totally different with different behaviors, but all I'm saying is that if the game is good, people would buy it, late or not.
To be fair, I did say often :P
Sony's consoles are often the place for many big and small JRPGs, especially ones that Nintendo systems don't often or rarely get. These days the market has changed drastically so I can see the split being more even these days if it is a trend and if it's one that continues.
Valkyria Chronicles was $20 on Steam. DQXIS is going to be full priced.
I'm playing this nice and slow, enjoying the world. It's also my first DQ game and now definitely not my last. I purchased a day one digital copy after seeing gameplay and how gorgeous the art style is. Oh and I plan on purchasing a PC copy whenever there's a sale and you best believe I'm getting a switch copy as well. Such a fun fun game.
Fair enough, I remember that thread about monster design lol.
As I said, that's just one example. There are other late ports too that are $50 or even more (like FFXV). But yeah, I kinda forgot that it'll be $60 on the Switch.
So if I'm reading into it correctly, it sounds like the the actual sales are going to be roughly in line with VIII and IX. I don't know how much overlap there is between Dragon Quest's audience and all the competition of that month, but it held up admirably. Especially since the marketing was basically non-existent, and the competition demanded a lot of attention.
I hope Square Enix had realistic expectations though. Dragon Quest seems to be an on-going series of investments. They made the game for PS4, continued to develop it further for the west, made a 3DS version which contains the game in two radically different art styles and perspectives and keep it Japan-exclusive, and for some reason are working on yet another version now too. I wonder if those numbers work out sensibly at the end of the road. I especially wonder how well a Switch version could still do if it'll be so late to the party. I suppose Dragon Quest is a notable enough brand to Square Enix for that not to matter though.
I hope Square Enix had realistic expectations though. Dragon Quest seems to be an on-going series of investments. They made the game for PS4, continued to develop it further for the west, made a 3DS version which contains the game in two radically different art styles and perspectives and keep it Japan-exclusive, and for some reason are working on yet another version now too. I wonder if those numbers work out sensibly at the end of the road. I especially wonder how well a Switch version could still do if it'll be so late to the party. I suppose Dragon Quest is a notable enough brand to Square Enix for that not to matter though.
I'm not sure a 3DS version would make sense in the west in 2018. Especially not after the home console version is already out.
It sold basically as much as previous entries, which isn't considered a lot by SE. So yeah, these threads discussing why DQ isn't appealing to North America still make sense.
I only expect like 100K outside of Japan... and I don't even expect it to break over 250K there too.
Yeah, it would be cool to see how a new entry would've sold if it came in a more timely manner.
I'm so happy that it's doing well. I feel guilty that I didn't buy it, because I'm waiting for the Switch version.
FF XV sold much fewer units on Steam and is actually much cheaper than original release because it include all first sets of DLC.
It actually kinda prove late port is not going to do well.
I chuckled by this comment. Omg it is true. I remember those days when triple dragon quest threads of "why the game doesnt sell well in the west" at that time i thought it was a real literal parody. Lol
Still sold 500k+ copies and counting becoming one of the most successful JRPG on the platform.
Great but I don't think it was a difficult goal to reach, since all previous DQ bombed in US and DQ9 was NDS exclusive.
We still have to wait and see what SE thinks of all of this.
We still have to wait and see what SE thinks of all of this.
Its hard to tell if this is good news or alright news but anything that's not bad news is good news for me.
Is astroturfing just an accepted thing on this forum now?
Is astroturfing just an accepted thing on this forum now?
The competition on DS wasn't close to being released within a week of Tomb Raider and Spider-Man, among many others before and after that margin.
The fact that this is seemingly much better than the 3DS games is good news in itself.
Sales seems a bit on the low side for DQXI, considering it released on multiple platforms and its budget was probably much higher than every DQ before. Japan numbers are low too.
Square will not count this a success. Perhaps the inevitable Switch port will raise the numbers significantly in Japan and worldwide.
Square will not count this a success. Perhaps the inevitable Switch port will raise the numbers significantly in Japan and worldwide.
That arrived about 2 years after they were released in Japan and was a remaster and port?
It's the highest selling PS4 game in Japan by a wide margin. The lower sales comparatively are more a result of smaller home console install bases in Japan more than anything else. 3DS sales were also fine.
Both were remakes with additional content, not ports. DQXI also released a year and a half after its original Japanese release.
I'd answer your question but that's all the time I got. I'm gonna go play Animal Crossing New Leaf™ on my Nintendo 3DS™.
Don't know what your point is, but I'm trying to say FF XV late port number doesn't give much confidence to DQ11 super late port. FF XV Royal did much worse than the original release.
FF XV shipped 6m at launch on PS4+XB1.
Applying the same percentage, 500k/6000k = 8.3% to DQ11 launch tells me DQ11 Switch is going to do terrible.
Lol. If we apply that percentage to DQ11s.... it mean it will sold at most 15k on switch lol.