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Oct 29, 2017
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So the Mercy buff is for Valkyrie (ugh), Roadhog is to his hook and shotgun, probably also changing the shotgun mechanics for Reaper as well then, so I wonder what they're planning on doing with Symmetra. They need to do something about her primary fire because it's almost perfunctory. :/

edit: We're definitely getting a new character, the map was always an early announcement on the schedule. It still stings though, especially after they said the events will all be rehashes.

I disagree about Sym's primary fire. That shit melts shields and takes no ammo when doing so. If your Zarya primary fire aim is good then you can really wreck shit with Sym (Zarya's damage ceiling is higher though IIRC)
 

Titik

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Oct 25, 2017
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I disagree about Sym's primary fire. That shit melts shields and takes no ammo when doing so. If your Zarya primary fire aim is good then you can really wreck shit with Sym (Zarya's damage ceiling is higher though IIRC)
If you survive that long. That only happens when everyone else in your team is either dead (because they got focused before you) or you are dead first.

Wish she gets some temporary shields (or her sheilds get recharged fast) whenever her beam is zapping the enemy shield to give her more survivability during close encounters.
 

Frozenprince

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Oct 25, 2017
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It heals the same amount before it was nerfed too... (15% isn't slightly faster either, that's probably about 30 seconds faster)

Valkyrie has always been one of the strongest ults in the game, why do Mercy players consistently undervalue there character on EVERY ability.
When it gave you an instant cooldown on a rez and the mobility was far better, sure. Not anymore with the changes to her non-ult healing and the much worse mobility and healing output. Reversing the output back to what used to be her base healing levels for just her ult still makes her current kit ineffective. Valk doesn't give you enough splash or burst healing to turn a tide like a well timed ult should. All it does is give you a slight increase in escapability and mobility to a character who already has a dedicated skill for escapability. It doesn't give you the sustain of a sound barrier or the instant turn in a team fight that is functionally a rez in a nano boost, or the mass sustain healing of a trans.

She flat out is a bad character right now because Blizzard can't make up their minds on how to handle her. She isn't viable in the mid-fight, she isn't viable on 2CP maps without mass verticality, damage boost might as well do nothing.
 

Jam

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Oct 25, 2017
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Fuck the map, the Viewer is the real big drop in this news; they finally have a proper spectator client for the game.
 
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AlexFlame116

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Nov 17, 2017
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Speaking of voice line interactions, here are the newest ones for this past week:
 

Lump

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Oct 25, 2017
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I keep hoping for proper 21:9 monitor support. One of these days, the dream will happen. One of these days.
 

shoptroll

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May 29, 2018
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Expect buffs for Reaper, Roadhog, Symmetra, and Mercy in patch 1.30

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Patch Notes said:
Valkyrie
  • Ultimate cost reduced 15%
  • Healing per second increased from 50 to 60

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As a Mercy main this hurts. I'm all for widening the Support meta but this doesn't help anything.
 

shoptroll

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May 29, 2018
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y'all had your time in the sun

like, for a year

That's totally fair. I just wish they would actually figure out what they want to do with her. Nudging the dials on the Ultimate isn't that. Rez is cool (and probably overpowered by its very nature), but she needs to come in for a major reworking as the current incarnation needs a lot more love.
 

Kirblar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
30,744
Starting to wonder why the fuck Blizzard didnt skip blizzcon this year.
Once Blizzcon ends the team that produces it jumps right to running the next year. It's a full time gig.

The whole thing is too big to fail, and ends up warping things like HOTS's tournaments, where the mid-season tournament is viewed as more prestigious (in terms of skill) because it has a far fairer format than the Blizzcon end of year event.
 

1000% H

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Oct 25, 2017
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That's totally fair. I just wish they would actually figure out what they want to do with her. Nudging the dials on the Ultimate isn't that. Rez is cool (and probably overpowered by its very nature), but she needs to come in for a major reworking as the current incarnation needs a lot more love.
Replace rez with a photon barrier and valk with a shield generator.
 

Nimby

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Oct 27, 2017
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When it gave you an instant cooldown on a rez and the mobility was far better, sure. Not anymore with the changes to her non-ult healing and the much worse mobility and healing output. Reversing the output back to what used to be her base healing levels for just her ult still makes her current kit ineffective. Valk doesn't give you enough splash or burst healing to turn a tide like a well timed ult should. All it does is give you a slight increase in escapability and mobility to a character who already has a dedicated skill for escapability. It doesn't give you the sustain of a sound barrier or the instant turn in a team fight that is functionally a rez in a nano boost, or the mass sustain healing of a trans.

She flat out is a bad character right now because Blizzard can't make up their minds on how to handle her. She isn't viable in the mid-fight, she isn't viable on 2CP maps without mass verticality, damage boost might as well do nothing.
Not every ultimate is used defensively, and 60 hps Valk was still good without her having multiple rezzes. Valkyrie is best used as an offensive ult, and if you use it to try to negate damage from a dragonblade or something, congrats you just wasted your ult. It turns a skirmish into a decisive fight for your allies.
 

Azzanadra

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Oct 25, 2017
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So no Diablo 4, not even an Overwatch map... this BlizzCon is poised to be the worst in years. And they've been pretty mediocre as of late.

Well if we at least get a Diablo 2 remaster, I'l take it as a win.
 

Kirblar

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Oct 25, 2017
30,744
If you survive that long. That only happens when everyone else in your team is either dead (because they got focused before you) or you are dead first.

Wish she gets some temporary shields (or her sheilds get recharged fast) whenever her beam is zapping the enemy shield to give her more survivability during close encounters.
It really feels like she needs some sort of shielding mechanic to aid with either personal or team survival. It's part of Medivh's kit in HOTS, which her new iteration is incredibly reminiscent of.
 

Buttchin-n-Bones

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Oct 25, 2017
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That's totally fair. I just wish they would actually figure out what they want to do with her. Nudging the dials on the Ultimate isn't that. Rez is cool (and probably overpowered by its very nature), but she needs to come in for a major reworking as the current incarnation needs a lot more love.
They wanted to make her an all-rounder who is good for most skill levels but not oppressively so. That means her utility at the highest skill levels will be limited. I think this iteration is gonna be pretty close.
 

pixxelz

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Oct 30, 2017
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Symetra and Reaper getting a buff? FFS!

Oh well as long as they don't touch Mei is fine with me.
 

Nimby

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Oct 27, 2017
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Do people complaining about no map realize that were probably getting a new hero? We got Busan a month or two ago.
 

Masterspeed

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well, hopefully that means a hero at least. I'm still holding out hope for an expansion...but I doubt that's ever going to happen.
 

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Feb 19, 2018
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IDK man I have a feeling they gonna ruin balancing with mercy reaper and symm..

Why cant they accept some things simply just dont work.

I feel like now is most balanced overwatch ever been they shouldn't touch it
 

Rikster

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Jun 24, 2018
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I wish I still cared about this game, their updates just started getting samey, no new events.