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Why is work so despised?
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Think about it. You like using your "gifts" and "talents" for the betterment of others.
The lottery targets the absolute lowest class of workers. A lot of those people don't have talents or gifts. They do the most menial of tasks for not a lot of pay. They often bust their asses just to barely scrape by. Wouldn't you want to get away from that too?
Hell, I told my friends if they won the lottery, just slip me a cool million and we're good. It'd be enough to pay off my debts, buy a new car, house and some new toys. Save the rest for later and focus on the things I actually want to do. A lot of people would like to get to that place. You seem to already be there, OP.
The lottery targets the absolute lowest class of workers. A lot of those people don't have talents or gifts. They do the most menial of tasks for not a lot of pay. They often bust their asses just to barely scrape by. Wouldn't you want to get away from that too?
Hell, I told my friends if they won the lottery, just slip me a cool million and we're good. It'd be enough to pay off my debts, buy a new car, house and some new toys. Save the rest for later and focus on the things I actually want to do. A lot of people would like to get to that place. You seem to already be there, OP.
It's fun if it's something I genuinely care about. Not everyone is in a position to be able to start their own business or do what they love for a living.
if you started a business for fun after winning the lottery you could also just stop if you got bored or it wasn't going well and you wouldn't be sent into a spiral of doubt anxiety and depression.
If I won the lottery, I'd open an animal rescue/ youth center. Kids could volunteer working with the animals to get free play time on video games, free courses on various trade skills, and mental health services would be free no matter what.
If I won, I'd still work just so I wouldn't burn too much cash on stupid shit. Working could be used to pay for video games and food while a relatively insignificant portion of lottery winnings could take care of permanent housing and vehicles.
Having a job would keep you grounded in reality and keep you from just burning through your cash. Maintaining some semblance of your former lifestyle will keep you from going broke.
Having a job would keep you grounded in reality and keep you from just burning through your cash. Maintaining some semblance of your former lifestyle will keep you from going broke.
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what would be your daily routine if you didn't have to work? It's fun thinking about these things.
We all have our roles here lol. Most of my threads are news threads so it inflates my thread counts. But it's what I do. I make threads.
I like my job, but I'd give it up in a heartbeat if I won the lottery. I'd find other ways to structure my day, I'd still have goals but they'd be more aspirational, personal goals.
You sure do make a lot of threads Entremet. Like, a lot a lot.
I hate work because it's required to exist in the modern world and that's shitty. It's also why I'm dabbling in student entrepeneur stuff in the hopes that something takes off and I can retire early.
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I hate work because it's required to exist in the modern world and that's shitty. It's also why I'm dabbling in student entrepeneur stuff in the hopes that something takes off and I can retire early.
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I think a cool think would be mastering fun skills. Especially with the extra time. Like driving race cars or something like that.
I think when you have money constraints, you don't take as many risks in your career.
For instance, I like my job, but it's a very "safe" job with decent money. What I'd really love to do some day is do fine woodworking or be a chef. I went a different career path and can't afford to start all over.
However, if I had ALL the money, I'd do one or both of those.
For instance, I like my job, but it's a very "safe" job with decent money. What I'd really love to do some day is do fine woodworking or be a chef. I went a different career path and can't afford to start all over.
However, if I had ALL the money, I'd do one or both of those.
Well I want to live in the middle of the country with land, so probably enjoying that, tending to animals, making stuff from wood, learning to forge swords(I know this one is random, just would love to learn), pretty much anything that involves working outside. I know its not a routine if its always changing, but I would imagine there to a lot of ideas I would want to build or work on. Some being making my house as self sufficient as possible, garden, green house, root cellar, ect.
I know this one-- and this is with almost 0 spending money. what a great summer this was.
wake up when you want
sit out on the porch to have a cup of coffee and eat your breakfast
go to the gym
go straight from the gym to relax in the park
go home to eat dinner, check the news
hang out with friends on the porch or watch a movie/read a book/play video games/watch tv
It truly does not get old, and that is with very few resources. if you want to go the whole lottery route then... whew
life is obnoxious and work is the easiest thing to blame about it since it eats over 1/3rd of my life
Can you imagine the cultural explosion that would take place if more people no longer had to work for subsistence and were able to do things they enjoy without being encumbered by stress? It would be the mid-20th century on steroids.
Maybe we'll get there one day, but there will be a lot of pain and suffering along the way. The jobs cult is too strong and too many would rather see their neighbors suffer if it meant they'd be relatively happier.
Maybe we'll get there one day, but there will be a lot of pain and suffering along the way. The jobs cult is too strong and too many would rather see their neighbors suffer if it meant they'd be relatively happier.
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It's weird because when I'm unemployed and still have a bit of spending money, I'm miserable because I'm not at work. When I'm at work I'm miserable because I don't want to be at work.
It's a completely different kind of stress in each situation also.
Anecdotally, my dad retired at 62 and was completely miserable until he died at 85. Works seems to provide a sense of identity, purpose, and belonging. It also gives you this existential dread where you can't wait for the weekend and you hate your boss and on and on and on.
It's a completely different kind of stress in each situation also.
Anecdotally, my dad retired at 62 and was completely miserable until he died at 85. Works seems to provide a sense of identity, purpose, and belonging. It also gives you this existential dread where you can't wait for the weekend and you hate your boss and on and on and on.
Depends on the field you work in. I'm in University going for a communication bachelor's and I can't wait to start working with that; had I done what my parents do full time I'd hate my existence (lock factory) I did that over a few summers and it was miserable.
Put me in a position of doing practical work and you'll end up breaking my spirits completely. That's just how it is and I suspect many others feel the same about various industries.
Put me in a position of doing practical work and you'll end up breaking my spirits completely. That's just how it is and I suspect many others feel the same about various industries.
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Yeah. I went through a 6 month stint unemployment many years ago. I never felt more miserable in my life and that's when add bad breakups, health issues, etc.
I'm with you, OP. Even in retirement I'll be productive and starting new business ventures.
I don't know why people are reading the OP so narrowly and thinking that it means "continue doing a job you hate."
I don't know why people are reading the OP so narrowly and thinking that it means "continue doing a job you hate."
That's a very narrow definition of work.
Running a production company would be more than "fucking around for fun", even if you hire people to do the day to day. Not sure why you think that.
As somebody with autism who has trouble getting employment it bothers me seeing other people complain about working.
I don't think it's the spending-part-of-your-time-doing-something-that-may-be-tedious-but-also-ultimately-rewarding thing that really bothers the average worker. It's the having to prostrate yourself before a boss and meekly toil away at something you don't give a shit about. That's what people are trying to escape.
Work is fine, but a bunch of times (outside of vacation days) I just don't feel like going to work. Kinda have to though, unless I don't want a roof over my head anymore. So yea, if I won that kind of money I would most certainly not work, at least for a very long time, there's plenty of things to do.
Because most of us are incredibly alienated from the products of our labor. Many of us essentially have bullshit jobs that don't even do or make anything useful, they just kind of exist as part of a bloated machine.
People who like their jobs are usually in better circumstances than this... or they're simply weird people who enjoy repetitive busywork... or they're management sociopaths who enjoy messing around with people's lives.
People who like their jobs are usually in better circumstances than this... or they're simply weird people who enjoy repetitive busywork... or they're management sociopaths who enjoy messing around with people's lives.
Very much how I feel. I like my job just fine. But since I live paycheck to paycheck I'm most comfortable making a big risk.
If I was suddenly rich tomorrow I'd probably volunteer or work for myself as a freelancer. Anything that would let me have time off whenever I'd like.
I like my job now, but I've had jobs I didn't like before that some might consider "good" jobs. I don't think it's that much of a stretch to imagine all the people who are stuck in bad jobs...
Edit: And even so if you offered me the ability to not work and to travel the world, do photography, ride motorcycles, and everything else I like to do for fun, sorry web development, it's been a good run.
Edit: And even so if you offered me the ability to not work and to travel the world, do photography, ride motorcycles, and everything else I like to do for fun, sorry web development, it's been a good run.
Unless you're one of the few people who actually loves what they do, it's the necessity of it. You have to work, you need that money to survive. And depending on someone's education, location, and luck, there's a whole host of other issues ranging from type of job to salary to commute. It's a required part of almost everyone's day and can really wear you down.
Very much this. I know for sure if I was rich I'd be working in some sense, just not wage labor.
No rich person purely relaxes all the time. There's no human hedonistbot out there. Those that say they will only chill all day will get bored as I did. When you have money to sit around you will try that first but it does get boring: you will literally run out of shit to refresh on the Internet, games suck, all TV will suck, and fast food will always be good. You will eventually start to crave human interaction so you will start doing things all the time that are socializing events whether dinner, activities, gym, movies, etc. You then might transition to doing something a few times a week in the morning just so you feel productive. Eventually you strike a good balance and figure things out and that becomes your work: a variety of tasks and activities that you learned to enjoy from trying everything. I went through this phase as well. I decided to take classes I wad interested it. I now have a web development certificate after a 6 month course and I'll never do anything with it cause it sucks, taking chemistry and math atm cause I was never really good ay those, play dodgeball in a league, try to do live casino grinding a few times a week (but the ones around me usually do small stakes poker so it blows chunks), plan my wedding, exercise, learn to cook, and a few other things.
Don't believe people who say they'll just relax forever, it doesn't happen. I'd wager they lose it all cause you go all wild and thoughtless the moment you win big.
Really? This is an actual question? Like just the thread title alone is laughable to me.
Because it's fucking work. Why the hell would I want to spend 8 hours out of my day doing shit that I'm forced to do because I have to survive if I didn't have to? Who would? I mean working for your own passions, that's different. Like if you enjoy getting up and working on music or what have you. But just fucking work?
Fuck work. If I could find a way to not have to work without having to rely on being a mooch, I would take it in a heartbeat.
Because it's fucking work. Why the hell would I want to spend 8 hours out of my day doing shit that I'm forced to do because I have to survive if I didn't have to? Who would? I mean working for your own passions, that's different. Like if you enjoy getting up and working on music or what have you. But just fucking work?
Fuck work. If I could find a way to not have to work without having to rely on being a mooch, I would take it in a heartbeat.
1. Where do I get the money and time from? Please advise and solve it for us millions who are trying to make it work.
2. You are saying we should compare ourselves to these freak accident rags-to-riches stories? Very uplifting...
Passion work, imo, is only a passion because you don't do it 8 hours a day.
There is plenty of other productive stuff to do with your life besides make others money. For a lot of people, turning their art, hobbies, and charity work into a liveable wage isn't realistic.