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Back To The Crunch (The Jimquisition)
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Funny, threads get plenty of replies when Jim goes after companies or games, but when he deviates from his supposedly "tired schtick" to cover different things like the treatment of employees in the industry, there seems to be nobody left to give a shit.
Imagine if the company in question was Ubisoft instead of Rockstar.
Fantastic video, and right on the mark. I'm glad he brought up that choosing to overwork yourself isn't exactly the best either. I'm not one to tell others how to live but crunch is bad, truly voluntary or coerced. I really wish he'd do more stuff like this, tackling corporate structure rather than games or companies as a whole, this but seeing as how so few are trying to discuss this video I'm not surprised he doesn't. Gotta do what pays the bills, unfortunately. I'm just glad he's able to find time for Jimquisitions like these and more positive, praising ones.
I mean, in my defense, I had to go searching for the topic. I'm shocked the usual Jim-blind-hate-brigade didn't descend upon the topic, but I guess even they agree supporting unions and humane working hours is the good and correct thing to do. Which is of course a positive, the more people who agree with that the better.
A couple of rockstars employees said on Twitter that they weren't force to work crunch time yeah? While this may be true, what they didn't say is that they most likely got pressure to crunch.
I remember watching an extra credits video years ago that talked about working conditions in the industry and they said that game studios often look down on employees that leaves when they're shift is over and don't put in extra time. Some game studios almost make it a culture that if you leave at 6 o'clock, you're a "traitor" and you're holding everyone back. Combine that with tight deadlines and you got yourself a very toxic mindset.
So while crunch may be "optional", the pressure to do crunch is very real.
I remember watching an extra credits video years ago that talked about working conditions in the industry and they said that game studios often look down on employees that leaves when they're shift is over and don't put in extra time. Some game studios almost make it a culture that if you leave at 6 o'clock, you're a "traitor" and you're holding everyone back. Combine that with tight deadlines and you got yourself a very toxic mindset.
So while crunch may be "optional", the pressure to do crunch is very real.
Most of those threads are people just responding to the topic title.
If you aint crunching that means your fellow coworkers are crunching even harder. You'll feel guilt, not a team player, lazy dev amirite?
Just watched it, good points, let's hope more devs start getting push back for crunch. I wish games stopped shooting for the stars with too much graphics or world sizes when they can't afford it (Rockstar can, and their main money maker is all about world building so they should have just hired even more people, or scaled back on the world a tiny bit).
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How about a summary so that everybody doesn't need to watch his act for 15 minutes?
Really good video from Jim and much needed. I hope he keeps calling out studios and/or publishers for their dire working conditions. Unions need to happen for developers. They are not a magic cure all but it would be a step in the right direction.
Interesting video. Got to finish watching it though. Good points from what I have seen but watch people complain just because this is Jim.
I mean, I just read the Schreier article earlier today and I can guarantee that it was far more informative and insightful, and with none of the self-aggrandizing theatrics Jim routinely employs.
Or when he covers things like Article 13 all people want to do is talk about how he doesn't like their favourite Assassin's Creed game.
Might have something to do with the week of threads filled with discussion on this very topic that preceded this video?
As mentioned the Schreier article dropped as well, so this is running in tandem with that thread which is up to 12 pages atm.
Deeply agree with Jim that exposing shitty attitudes toward crunch and encouraging and spotlighting unionization are the most important things online gaming enthusiasts and media can do moving forward.
How about you spend 5 minutes let alone 15 minutes to watch the video rather than hours arguing in JS topics when you feign that you don't even have 15 minutes to spare?
I love people on Era going into a topic with a video and then claiming they don't have time to watch it.
Of course now. When you go after things ERA likes, you'll get lots of replies telling you you're wrong or whatever.
It's sad when you think one of the best selling games ever Minecraft is composed of blocky graphics and one of the biggest breakout hits last year was a buggy early access game in PUBG, that actually managed to win game of the year in places despite not officially being a released game.
I wonder where the narrative comes from that WE DEMAND better graphics and all the stuff that AAA devs are literally breaking people to make.
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There are 41,000 members. I think it's inefficient to expect them all to watch a 15 minute video when a summary could be provided.
You two are your own individuals and you come into nearly every Jim Sterling topic so you know it's video content.
You really do have to wonder why coming out and saying people worked 100 hour weeks was something they felt needed to be said in the first place. To just come out and sort of boast about it was confusing. Jim nailed it here. This is something that needs to change, especially so in the gaming industry. No one should be risking their health and losing sleep to make a game.