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CDP tweets trash tweet about trans people AGAIN this time from GOG (Read OP)
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I'm also really interested in seeing how you manage to ignore politics in Cyberpunk.
I'm assuming when you click the [NEW GAME] tab, you will immediately smash your computer and throw it out the window?
To those who are unhappy with this response, what should GoG have said to rectify the outrage they caused with the deleted tweet?
omg
Amazing.
Rule #1 of apologies is to actually apologise. They should probably start there.
I'll be donating my Cyberpunk 2077 money to a pro-trans charity/organization. Any suggestions?
Donated to https://transgenderlawcenter.org/donate
Donated to https://transgenderlawcenter.org/donate
You can download the games if you want. DRM-free.
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So they will keep selling older games?
But who doesnt sell older games?
Sony sells ps1 games etc.
Nintendo sells NES games still.
I probably still dont understand something about the tweet.
Done.
...........what? Games can have politics. I'm not talking about virtual. I'm talking about real life. Each game has their own world, politics and story.
"Hey, our social media manager keeps doing this. We fired him, he doesn't represent the values of our company" (In not those exact words obviously) would be a start. Apologies are empty when you keep doing the same shit.
They're not talking about "Virtual" politics either. You're dense.
I mean, it's obviously code for "these issues don't affect me at all, and I care wayyyy more about video games than issues that affect other people."
Pretty easy for people like that to have the politics presented in games go completely over their head as they just go from place to place shooting people in the face.
"We apologize" would be a good starting point...
Let alone acknowledging that their social media manager has repeatedly gotten away with this shit (if not far fucking worse).
Not everyone understands everything so fast as others man
Publicly announce they've parted way with their social media manager, apologize, and promise to do better. That would be a nice start rather than "Our bad, we'll stick to games"
"Cyberpunk 2077 is a game about people with power at the top and people at the bottom with none", he replied. "That power can come from money, hierarchies, technology and violence. The original Cyberpunk 2020 setting, like the setting of The Witcher stories, was a complex critique of the author's world, and we don't shy away from that in our games."
"But Cyberpunk is relevant to today, extremely so. To pretend like it's not? Come on. Mike [Pondsmith, Cyberpunk 2020 creator] wouldn't let us. Mike would throw a fit if we tried to say, 'This is just about cool hairstyles and cool guns, that's all.'"
Lol
Keep going dude
I can't help but feel that someone high up the food chain shares the same values as whoever is working the social media because even if racism exists in the company, to not appear outwardly racist is so fucking easy, reprimand people, fire them, this is the face of the company, you'd want to shy away from this controversy. Unless you agree with it and get a kick out of it happening, complete with bullshit "apologies", only then can it explain management letting this happen a third time.
Not really big on outrage culture causing people to lose jobs unless its especially egregious, but this is strike two with the transphobia. They need to deliver assurances that this isn't acceptable behavior for their social media managers, at least. I dunno, it feels so unsatisfactory. Like they're waltzing around taking blame.
"We're sorry we made light of such a serious topic. The issues of the trans community in America and all around the world should never be taken lightly in the manner we did in our tweet. We are devoted to a diverse and welcoming community of gamers who all deserve respect."
CDP if you want a new PR person just slide into my DM
If I recall, the last time they did this they apologized and people said it wasn't good enough. I'm honestly wondering what they could do to make this right. Obviously they need to stop these tweets, but other than that can they win back anyone they pissed off?
I feel like an asshole even thinking this, but I am questioning the age of some posters here...
Win back? They should take a stance against this shit, instead they double down on it, belittling the issue even.
Ctrl+F "sorry"
Ctrl+F "apologize"
No, it's not a bad apology. It's not an apology at all.
No cyberpunk is including politics in a virtual world. They are putting their opinions and political agenda inside the world. I will play it to see what the views are in the game. Keynote: in the game. I'm talking about reality. If in game they have an agenda, I will still play it and beat the game, because it's a game. A game.
Is a boycott necessarily fair to the hard working developers, and other employees, who had nothing to do with this?
Sci Fi Genre game with transhumanism as a core theme produced by a company that appears to be clueless, at best,about transgender rights IRL.
No politics tho dudes.
1. Make an apology. 2. Fire the person who made the tweet. It is not their first offense. It is not their second offense. 3. Affirm the right of transgender individuals to exist. Because making light of our struggles makes it that much harder every day. There is no middle ground on this subject, and there will never be one. Transphobia is not okay.
Boycotting a game doesn't prevent developers from getting paid.
Technically Sony stopped selling and producing PS1 games after a certain point. With the introduction of their online store, they did add some games, but some were locked outside various regions, some weren't backwards compatible, etc.
Nintendo doesn't sell NES games on the Nintendo Switch. They recently offered 20 or so with the Nintendo Online Service which you can play as long as your subscribed. Still no SNES games. No N64 games. These games aren't being reproducing physically and can't be found in their online store.
What GOG is saying is they'll continue to offer games, both old and new as long as publishers allow them. And these games will be DRM-free, which is unique. It really was just meant to be a PR thing, not meant to be taken super seriously. People have an issue with it because of the transphobia in the tweet.
why do you think not buying it is dumb then? it is after all just a game. a game.
Yes
If they care they should encourage their employer to do better
First of all, everyone should be unhappy with this response. It's garbage.
They should have posted an apology.
Something about them feeling super sad and angry about what their now-fired-community person said because they don't at all condone using an important hashtag in this context or being transphobic in general. Also stating their full support for trans* rights.
Instead they basically dismissed it all as a joke that people didn't get and shit some more on trans* people! Good work!
I remember Daniel Varva mentioning how many devs he knows share the same (shitty) mentality as him but they're too afraid to "speak out" because that'd mean losing customers. Since he knows quite a lot of CDPR people the assumption was already made a while ago... so it unfortunately is what it is.
When you hit grade school it's going to blow your mind that fiction is often derived from reality to make statements about our own society.
It really is incredible they can't seem to take any blame.
You should have a PR job.
Yeah, thats what I'm afraid of. It seems like they really have fucked up and doubled down on their fuck up.
Are you really defending a lack of even a half-assed apology because the previous half-assed apology wasn't accepted?
If not, what exactly are you saying? I feel like you're concern trolling and implying and tiptoeing about something, but I can't figure out what. Spit it out already, man.
Games, movies, and books all have inherent political messages about the world/society and what's going on throughout it. You're willfully ignoring that because you think that these are just entertainment, when most of them are really intended to be both. And even if they really were just nonsense stories with no inherent meaning, its absolutely disheartening to have someone come in here and say they care more about those political messages in what they consider to be just games with nothing serious in them than they do about people mocking me and the people I know as we lose our civil rights.
But they've created something for the world to enjoy. It's their their art and the result of all their hard work and sacrifice to make it happen. The rewards aren't just monetary.
User Banned (1 month): Transphobia, trolling, ignoring the mod post
Had to look up what drm is.
Which part is the tranphobic part?
Because old games have no transgenders in them?
So this guy is saying we are still selling old games without transgenders?
Why should I give my money to a company posting transphobic tweets?
How's that fair to the transgender community?
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