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CDP tweets trash tweet about trans people AGAIN this time from GOG (Read OP)
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No, the end goal of a boycott is to use a large, collective group of people to say they're not going to engage in business with that company anymore to pressure said company to make significant changes to their structure, policies or public presence that created the outcry to begin with.
financially, accurate. Gaming at large is filled with fucking scum garbo people. But if they ever want to pretend they put people ahead of money then they don't have a god damn leg to stand on.
how is that relevant to anything I said? Just because they're all coward fucks doesn't give these big players a pass.
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Some things aren't a damn joke and tact is everything. It's taken dead seriously because it's dead serious. If during a school shooting I posted a tweet about how "AKs won't slaughter our game library!" That would be tactless and gross when people are literally suffering at that exact moment. The hashtag about not being erased is literally about how thousands on thousands of men, women, and nonbinary people are genuinely afraid of being counted as less human than everyone else. And yet GOG used it to make a severely unfunny joke to what end exactly? Why did GOG specifically need to intrude on a moment about trans lives to promote their games? It's because it's lazy, easy and they don't actually fucking care about the reason the hashtag exists or the lives behind it. And as already stated by multiple posters above, freedom of speech doesn't mean being free from ever being called out, criticized or judged for what you say. People from NAMBLA are free to talk about how they think preteens are capable of being sexual and romantic partners but that doesn't suddenly mean the rest of us have to eat that up without telling them to fuck off.
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I'm not jumping at you, I was genuinely asking. ><
I mean, from your comment it sounded like it was a specific issue.
I don't know why anyone would put in their 2 cents on very serious subjects and not expect to be taken seriously??
how about if you don't have anything of substance to contribute to something like metoo don't jump in and make lameass jokes?? just food for thought
freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences, and this isn't satire since it's a pretty clearly established pattern by this point
you're free to spew whatever hateful garbage you want but you have to accept that someone might knock you on your ass for it, or (hopefully in this case) get fired for it
if you're referring to people not being able to voice bigoted opinions on Era, then that's also not freedom of speech bc Era isn't owned by the govt, it's a privately owned/operated forum and they most certainly don't have to give a platform to bigots
I swear to God if they are going to apologize and start with "Sorry if we offended you" then I'll flip.
Isn't their approach to this just ignoring it until the news cycle moves to something else?
RDR2 is still going to be bought at launch. Cyberpunk 2077 is still going to be bought at launch. I myself had big problems paying 50€ for the TWEWY port on Switch that is way overpriced and thankfully went for the mobile version instead. We consumers have the power in our hands to punish crunches, sexual harassement, LGBT trash talk and overpriced products. But we don't use it.
How can I stay civil against uncivilized actions?
They deserve more than a ban and rude words.
How can you fire someone that speaks your mindset?
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Oooo? So CDPR is not CD Projekt? I always thought CDPR is the term people use when they refer to CD Projekt. The game developer is CDPR? CD Projekt is the owning company/publisher?
A bit confusing, hahah.
Well, I asked about it on their investors forum.
They'll answer.
https://www.cdprojekt.com/pl/forums/topic/lista-pytan-do-zarzadu/page/67/#post-167365
Nothing will change. This tweets will be forgotten in a week and Cyberpunk is like 2 years away. Boycots in videogames industry rarely (never?) worked. In the end, most people just want to play the new shit ASAP.
CDP used their freedom of speech to make an incredibly tasteless joke at the expense of a vulnerable minority.
I'm using my freedom of speech to call them transphobic shit stains, to call anyone defending them complicit in anti-LGBT bigotry, and to call for a boycott of GOG and all CDPR games including their discussion being banned from this site.
That's freedom of speech. They are allowed to say what they said, just like I am allowed to call my boss a douchebag.
The only thing at risk of being "outlawed" here is the existence of Trans* people in the US. Nobodies freedom of speech is in jeopardy. Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence.
don't know if it counts as taking a stand, but Playstation was sponsoring gay pride in the UK and they addressed the shooting in Orlando during E3.
they also had that white psp and squirrel please ad, though.
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Is the next, disgusting message made available by the company's social account (GOG) aimed at the minority, part of a deliberate hate campaign?
Does the company intend to continue to destroy its greatest value - good reputation - by publishing this type of content?
If attacks on the LGBT community are not an intentional hate campaign, can one expect to take specific steps, such as relieving those responsible for shaming the company's reputation and publishing an apology?
Is transphobic an integral part of the company's internal culture?
CDPR is not the right developer to handle a game like Cyberpunk.
They've shown several times now that they hold regressive and hateful opinions and I am sure that their vision of a Cyberpunk future won't live up to the expectations I have in the slightest.
In the off chance that studio leadership is actually not holding any of the opinions it would now be time for a very clear statement and firings of the people responsible. If this doesn't happen I am going to assume that these Tweets reflect the studios leaderships opinions and for me personally that would mean that I have no interest in the futuristic visions of a bunch of regressives and transphobes.
They've shown several times now that they hold regressive and hateful opinions and I am sure that their vision of a Cyberpunk future won't live up to the expectations I have in the slightest.
In the off chance that studio leadership is actually not holding any of the opinions it would now be time for a very clear statement and firings of the people responsible. If this doesn't happen I am going to assume that these Tweets reflect the studios leaderships opinions and for me personally that would mean that I have no interest in the futuristic visions of a bunch of regressives and transphobes.
Yup, totally. And studios excatly know all of that, so it's structurally existent in the industry -- hard and impossible to change. With CD Project, one could at least expect them to have better PR though...
Again, CD Projekt Red and GOG are two seperate entities. CD Projekt Red should answer for their "joke" back in August, GOG should answer for this, Postal and transplaining.
They either share the same social media team or transphobia is part of the job description.
User Banned (1 Month): Dismissing transphobic behaviour. Ignoring mod post. History of severe infractions.
In my opinion the tweet is tasteless. But how is it offensive?
As I often say, "freedom of speech works both ways". Anyone can express their opinion, and in return anyone can criticize said opinion, and vice versa.
That's kind of the whole point of freedom of speech.
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Different social media people. I'd say GOG is much more problematic than Red.
It takes a movement for trans rights and mockingly trivialises it to sell their games.
Is a year old account that has a total of FOUR POSTS really telling people upset with bigotry to remain "civil"
"I'm not gonna take a side. I'm just gonna casually side with the bigots by finger wagging victims of transphobia."
Language is a powerful tool. Trans people have to defend themselves against the threat of being erased from terminology. Using that hashtag gives them visibility in the Twitter space.
GOG swooped in and coopted the hashtag to turn it into a marketing campaign to promote their brand. They reduced the hashtag and the campaign attached to it to a mere slogan used to sell their products. How is that not offensive? Video games aren't more important that people's rights. It's really not that hard to understand.
This.
Please stop talking nonsense. We are definitely not going "to make this look like an anti-Eastern European thing", I'm personally just offended by a particular post. In your opinion, certain groups like Eastern Europeans aren't even allowed to point out hate speech towards them, it's immediately "hijacking"?
How does this justify offending people with blanket statements like that?
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...wow.
Bolding mine, but wow.
So, according to you:
- RL victims of serious discrimination being unhappy about getting mocked by a company: Suffering from mania
- These people then criticitzing the company: "instantly outlawing" the company and its supporters.
- The company: ~Should have freedom of speech~
Cool. I guess LGBT people have no freedom of speech, are really just mentally ill, but companies should be allowed to say what they want without criticism. How liberal!
Meanwhile, in reality, the whole issue is caused by Trump trying to outlaw RL people, transfolk (or transgenders, as you so eloquently and nicely put it) protesting, and then Gog mocking them for it.
Are you sure your wording is well thought through? Should you maybe go back on it and reconsider some of it?
Im not sure either what is bannable here, taking risk to even reply to you and talk about bans.
I have so many questions (mainly about the link between GOG and CDPR tweets) but I feel like its gonna get me banned for whatever reasons.
This place can't ban discussion about Cyberpunk2077 the game. A game such as Kingdom Come: Deliverance is freely discussed and that has a very "interesting" lead dev.
They could restrict topics to be only about the game, and put big-ass derailment warnings up. But outright banning the mere mention of Cyberpunk2077 would put it on a site-wide banlist that mostly contains fruity Japanese porn games. Seems a tad OTT.
Hold on, ERAmods are considering banning upcoming and major AAA title from being discussed on ERA? Why?
One from CP77 account? Yes.
I did multiple times but I dont know how GOG tweeting that is linked to CDPR.
You're gonna have to back that one up with a quote from one of the admins.
They're both owned by the same company and both have a history of this kind of stuff.
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