You can voicevyour outrage against these tweets, without you know, calling an entire population of people bigots and racists.
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CDP tweets trash tweet about trans people AGAIN this time from GOG (Read OP)
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You can voicevyour outrage against these tweets, without you know, calling an entire population of people bigots and racists.
I'm kinda just catching up on this won't be erased thing.....aren't they basically proposing making gender a synonym for sex again? That is pretty fucked up dude like let people do what they want man
super disappointing from CDPR, will still probably get the game if I am being honest with myself but someone there deserves to be fired 100%, I just don't know who. This is just not cool actually pretty egregious this time the "how is that for a hashtag" is the worse part that is actually just mean
Disappointing.....frankly makes me nervous about how well they handle a cyberpunk universe, maybe high fantasy was a little more their pace
super disappointing from CDPR, will still probably get the game if I am being honest with myself but someone there deserves to be fired 100%, I just don't know who. This is just not cool actually pretty egregious this time the "how is that for a hashtag" is the worse part that is actually just mean
Disappointing.....frankly makes me nervous about how well they handle a cyberpunk universe, maybe high fantasy was a little more their pace
So far, CDPR has:
-made 1 pro-GamerGate tweet
-made 2 transphobic tweets
-allowed a pro-GamerGate thread to exist on the GoG forums while locking less egregious threads
-featured TotalBiscuit in promotions for some of their GoG deals while giving a little wink and nod to his support of GamerGate
The problems with the company clearly go beyond one person managing a Twitter account. At the very least, their previous apologies were insincere.
-made 1 pro-GamerGate tweet
-made 2 transphobic tweets
-allowed a pro-GamerGate thread to exist on the GoG forums while locking less egregious threads
-featured TotalBiscuit in promotions for some of their GoG deals while giving a little wink and nod to his support of GamerGate
The problems with the company clearly go beyond one person managing a Twitter account. At the very least, their previous apologies were insincere.
Discussing where the line is drawn in terms of your tolerance to shitty people on a team is a worthy discussion to have.
Is it enough for just 1 social media person? Maybe the lead composer? Or maybe they have to be so sizeable that the game reflects their views (ie: anti femenist rhetoric on a Sugiyama game).
It must be pretty serious to cast away the work of hundreds for just one dude, but its never black or white. Especially for stuff like Sugiyama since he often uses his money to spread his vile views.
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
I mean they have done this before so they must be cool with it
Sure you do.
You put out a horrible statement to let bigots know you're on their side and then put out a weak apology to get everyone else of your back. But the original targets know you're "legit".
If it was a one time instance, that'd be one thing. But it's been 3 times in less than half a year.
If you can't stop yourself from buying it at least buy it second hand so they see no revenue.
This is the second time they post a transphobic tweet. Third time they've done a GGer tweet.
Yeah, there's something rotten in the company, maybe it's just on their PR department, maybe it's on the entire company, but they surely haven't done anything to fix it so far.
Good good, you're not as obvious as you're making yourself out to be. You're blending in well
+1
Plenty of other games out there. Strip out CDPR and GOG until they get rid of the social media manager and explain with concrete steps how they will not let bullshit like this happen again.
that would be good too. you can't force people to change but you can tell them what's acceptable behavior if they want to keep their job.
oh shit. sorry man. part of my text was eaten when i was typing. it was supposed to say "it was your simple half-hearted PR shit".
sorry, i'd never lump you in with that stuff. you good people.
What's nice? Would you disagree with anything I said?
Makes perfect sense. I guess determining when to draw the line would be a though process for the mod team sometimes (not in this case though for sure.)
you don't know that, maybe they fired the other dude and the new dude is still an asshole, who knoes
Well, at least we'd get something positive out of the whole thing!
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I have a very specific example earlier in the thread of somebody saying they were going to boycott AAA games until crunch culture ends, yet tonight they've been spewing posts about RDR2 and its map for hours, including posting comparisons of the previous game's map versus the new one. So much for that boycott.
If you're going to boycott and make it a talking point, then follow through. Somebody being honest about how they dislike the viewpoints of an individual but it's not going to affect their buying decision doesn't make them transphobic. It makes them honest. Because trust me, if you wanted to go down that rabbit hole, look up the NeoGAF histories of the founders of this site, yet you're here posting right now.
I hope this happens as well. "I can separate the art from the artist" and "how about the rest of the team that worked on the game?" get thrown around way too much here. Everyone knows there's other people that worked on these games that might be fine people, but what about the people that are effect by these companies' actions? Where do we draw the line?
But if you're apologizing for what you said, are you really "on their side"? From my viewpoint, this is a good way to make everyone hate you.
Not that I'll pretend to understand the thought process of alt-right people...
Like, the tweet is shit, and I in no way defend it or the person that did it. They should get in deep shit for it. But what good does it do to punish, say, a programmer that's working on CP for something the GOG social media person did? I've never understood that rational. Do your coworkers speak for you? Should you be punished for their misdeeds?
Unless I'm missing something that points to the entire company being transphobic here.
Thanks, just read it on wikipedia. Wtf is wrong with people.
I was like damn sorry lol.
But that's actually why I asking since the original tweets blew up enough that I noticed via the threads here but I had no idea what the response to them was so I was wondering if I just missed it or if the whole thing was just quietly ignored after a few days.
The Gamergate people assume the apology is for PR reasons.
If it's a limp-dick apology, sure you are. The people they're targeting know not to take it seriously.
Oh it would be a start for sure, but I'm doubtful it will ever happen.
nothing retroactive about that, it won the vote straight up that year
I'm sorry for the ignorance, what's up with Medievil? I haven't been keeping up with it.
It's not cool to shut down an entire country.
You're mad for them being bigoted and close-minded, but your answer doesn't seem different.
I don't know my company doesn't make transphobic tweets. And like any company with PR the pr person speaks for the whole company that's why they have them
Is this game not coming to consoles? Or do you just not have one (Which is fair)? Honestly I've barely been paying attention to it's press cycle.
This isn't how economics work.
By buying a game second hand, you increase the scarcity of the game and thus the overall cost of a used copy. As the price of a used copy gets closer to that of a new copy, more people will opt to just buy new.
I don't disagree with you but we're raised to treat whole corporations like a single actual person because legally, they are.
Did it? Damn clearly we were all ahead of the curve
Don't want to speak for them, but I think they mean Kingdom Come: Deliverance.
I think a thread discussing this is worthy of being created. I'm gonna try to create one but I'm not really a good writer. But I'll create one if no one does in the next few hours.
It's not a good look. I really do like GOG as a service but their dumb tweet screwups have been making it hard lately. I feel like they must have hired some new person to run their social media accounts a while back and that same person has now given them bad PR three times. Not good at all.
The other social accounts under CD Projekt Red's name, like The Witcher accounts, still seem to be okay. This GOG account needs someone new behind it fast though.
The other social accounts under CD Projekt Red's name, like The Witcher accounts, still seem to be okay. This GOG account needs someone new behind it fast though.
There are certainly shit people working on some of those games but banning DQXI or Cyberpunk or Witcher from this discussion board? That's freaking crazy talk.
I dont think we should ban discussion about the game because I cant see how that works in advantage of spreading the word on how shitty their behaviour is.
We need to make noise instead of silence.
They NEED to give a response to this. They NEED to fire whoever handles their social media accounts.
We need Kotaku on this too.
Because this is supposedly the 3rd time they are specifically making jokes about trans people and it is getting pretty disgusting.
We need to make noise instead of silence.
They NEED to give a response to this. They NEED to fire whoever handles their social media accounts.
We need Kotaku on this too.
Because this is supposedly the 3rd time they are specifically making jokes about trans people and it is getting pretty disgusting.
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