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Wkd Box Office - 10•19-21•18 - Michael Myers slays audiences, but not Venom's October OW record.
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Pops isn't gonna bankroll his baby indefinitely. The film division head was fired 10 days ago. The company president and the CFO left three months ago. Annapurna either gets a hit or that studio is done.
We haven't made enough jokes about the Nun's PTA being a very sinister $666
Also I wanna applaud Annapurna because Megan Ellison is just a big cinephille, giving millions of dollars to Paul Thomas Anderson, Spike Jonze, Wong Kar-Wai, Todd Sondoz, Mike Mills, Barry Jenkins, Jacques Audiard, Coens, Linklater, etc. But a lot of those movies just dont make a lot of money vs what they cost to produce, and Annapurna expanding from production to distributor has only increased their sunk costs exponentially. Their marketing/advertising/distribution strategies are so tragic. Why the fuck is The Sisters Brothers in 1,000 theaters this weekend? Why does nobody know about it? Why did it cost almost $40 million??? Good movie, but c'mon now...
Also I wanna applaud Annapurna because Megan Ellison is just a big cinephille, giving millions of dollars to Paul Thomas Anderson, Spike Jonze, Wong Kar-Wai, Todd Sondoz, Mike Mills, Barry Jenkins, Jacques Audiard, Coens, Linklater, etc. But a lot of those movies just dont make a lot of money vs what they cost to produce, and Annapurna expanding from production to distributor has only increased their sunk costs exponentially. Their marketing/advertising/distribution strategies are so tragic. Why the fuck is The Sisters Brothers in 1,000 theaters this weekend? Why does nobody know about it? Why did it cost almost $40 million??? Good movie, but c'mon now...
They are good movies but the audience ain't in the same level. I will feel sad when annapurna stops being a thing.
Saw Halloween today, great movie and deserved hawl. I miss classic horror movies, everything has a gimick now and it sucks ass. Nothing simpler than a guy in a mask that just won't give up.
I don't think they're scared at all: just realistic about what can do well at the box office and what won't. Something like First Reformed was never going to be a box office draw, whereas something like Hereditary had both the kind of genre thrills that people look for in a horror movie while also boasting a lot of unusual qualities that critics look for.
That being said, A24 does screw up in either not releasing wide enough in the end, or not doing it fast enough a fair amount. For example, Disaster Artist last year should have opened wider than it did because the buzz was clearly there, and some of their indie releases they never push above 200-400 theaters even though the WoM/buzz seems to be there (I'm still annoyed I never got to see Florida Project until a plane ride this year).
I love The Florida Project to pieces and I'm glad I was able to catch it in a theater when I had the chance, but I don't think it would have ever had a chance in wide release with its slice-of-life approach to the storytelling and the difficulty of selling a movie that stars children and also carries an R-rating.
Bomba 25? :v
(Likely not considering how recent Bond films have done, and Universal's covering the international release. But I do wonder if MGM(/EON) are getting cold feet on the co-distribution deal they've struck up with them last year...)
Wait, what? I thought that was coming out in December. Did Disney do a stealth release date move?
It's going to be amazing if this somehow makes enough money to break even, instead of continuing Disney's bomba streak of expensive live-action non-remake/POTC films.
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I mean, they did the same thing 20 years ago with H20. Don't you remember that marketing, Jamie Lee Curtis coming back, the bad movies being taken out of the canon...the same thing! And it worked again!
It's also another example of Disney self-cannibalizing their own studio releases, they have WDAS's Ralph Breaks The Internet later in November and Mary Poppins Returns in December. Film's easily going to get lost in the shuffle, and that's not even counting the studio competition.
Certain tropes are outdated due to wanting to pay respects to the original, not all the characters are fleshed out, and the shifts between horror and comedy can be seen as too much. At the end of the day it's a competent modern slasher movie that doesn't elevate the genre but doesn't come off as a joke.
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I'm not talking about a truly wide release, Florida Project never made it above 230 theaters. I could have expanded into the 400-800 theater range and done alright, but it never did. If you're positioning a movie as an Oscar contender (which they were, especially Dafoe for Supporting Actor), then you should at least try to truly play it more wide than that.
Movie looks like shit. Trailer is awful. Surprised it's actually good
Pretty much forgot what the hell The Sisters Brothers was until I saw the poster on BOM. I'll go see it Wednesday night
At the moment the IMAX near me is only showing it once per day at 11:15pm. We'll see if more times are added.
Venoms Monday is notably under what some of its contemporaries did (in raw dollars) at the time, it's possible that all of this competition is getting to it, though it still had a solid wow Monday drop.
In retrospect Sony cutting a deal with Tencent was a really under appreciated move at the time, Venom is being pushed hard on tencents popular social media and chat apps, and is going to hit in a sweet spot that marks a relative dry spell since the last Hollywood film came out (MI in early September).
Ok Predator comes out on Oct 26th but it's not expected to do much overall.
I'm pretty sure that Tencent having a 25% stake will end up being worth it for both parties, and position Venom strongly in China for an inevitable sequel.
In retrospect Sony cutting a deal with Tencent was a really under appreciated move at the time, Venom is being pushed hard on tencents popular social media and chat apps, and is going to hit in a sweet spot that marks a relative dry spell since the last Hollywood film came out (MI in early September).
Ok Predator comes out on Oct 26th but it's not expected to do much overall.
I'm pretty sure that Tencent having a 25% stake will end up being worth it for both parties, and position Venom strongly in China for an inevitable sequel.
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I was surprised they didn't bump that off screens after one week. I guess there was a two week agreement.
So, I think all the Annapurna bashing in this thread w/r/t to Sisters Brothers is very unfair and not tethered to reality. Sure the budget for it was $38M, but so was the budget for True Grit. But more importantly, Annapurna only paid $9M for distribution rights so if we crunch the numbers... it's only a massive financial failure and not a crippling one. At least it made more money than the other Comedy-Western film from noted indie filmmakers we got this year.
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