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NYT: Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence
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It's not exclusive to this thread and has been a pattern. He can still fuck all the way off though
Agreed completely
I'm so fucking glad that in a thread about erasing trans people from existence, we're REALLY worried about bullying Trump supporters.
Don't break something carrying that water.
Don't break something carrying that water.
This is more than needlessly cruel.
It's sole purpose is to whip Republican voters.
It is defranchising an entire class of people for the sake of getting votes. It's not just cruel. It's cold and calculated.
It's sole purpose is to whip Republican voters.
It is defranchising an entire class of people for the sake of getting votes. It's not just cruel. It's cold and calculated.
So they're trying to define gender as sex and make it completely binary, despite that scientifically it's not always so cleanly binary (intersex, etc). I'm sure Kavanaugh will be happy to ignore those pesky parts of science and stats that don't fit the agenda though.
Same argument comes up in protesting politicians eating at restaurants.
"But what will Fox News think?"
JealousKenny sure does visit a lot of "Trans" threads to give his thoughts.
Truly disgusting. If Democrats get power back, they absolutely need to force anti-discrimination policies through.
Yep. Completely sick and everyone still on the Trump train has lost the opportunity to be considered anything but monsters supporting a monster. No one should be worried about "bullying" Trump voters in the face of people literally being written out of existence. This country is devolving and it's entirely on the GOP, their constituents and the people who try to excuse, minimize or ignore the reality of their heinous actions.
And they would be idiots. The right hate us gays as much as they do transgender people, the focus only moved away from attacking gay rights because it felt like a lost battle. But recent history tells us a surge towards the right can roll back progress at the drop of a hat. All minorities need to be united.
User Banned (Permanent): Rationalising transphobia; Junior phase account with previous severe infractions.
I don't have a problem with the science behind this. I think it's important to have a concrete definition of someone's gender just from a healthcare perspective. Unclear to me how this will effect transgender people.
She'll be the same way Kanye is.
I fucking despise this administration. If you are legally able to vote, then vote. Get these stains out of office.
If it makes you feel better i have seen people on reddit, including recently, that have admitted to voting for him and regretting it.
FYI, it's not "transgendered". It's "a transgender person", not "a transgender", etc. I'm sure this sounds like petty semantics but "transgendered" sounds like when old crazy people talk about "the gays" or "the blacks".
http://time.com/3630965/transgender-transgendered/
it's pretty fucking clear if you're willing to listen to trans people
Science? Trump just very recently said scientists have an agenda when discussing climate change.
Plus, science backs up transgender people.
Fuck out of here.
Who cares? They want to double down on being rotten people because they're idiots/liars on economic issues, that's on them.
The problem is the science behind this doesn't say that gender is immutable. It says that sex may be. It also says that sex isn't binary as there are many more types behind XX and XY.
Unclear? It would strip them of their rights and attempt to strip them of their identities. This is clearly aimed at his base who are transphobic. It isn't about science. It's about hurting others.
I'm a trans person who is very close to getting my gender legally recognized.
This is incredibly scary to me and is not what I needed to see today.
This is incredibly scary to me and is not what I needed to see today.
It will tell them the federal government does not recognize their existence.
What science? This administration is incredibly anti-science. This move completely disregards science and the healthcare community's thoughts on the matter.
For everyone asking why the right and the GOP loves going after Transgender people its because they can't go after gay people like they used to as the shift in public opinion just won't allow them. Same for being able to use more overt slurs for a lot of other minority groups. It also doesn't help that the Transgender community is very small meaning even fewer people know and interact with them and fight for their cause. They're incredibly vulnerable and the Right loves themselves a vulnerable minority to use as a scapegoat.
Exactly. Also, you don't have to support everything the candidate you prefer does. And it would be nice if trump supporters, no republicans, would actually call out their own candidates when they do something that even they find wrong. And I think it fair for other people to assume they're ok with it if they refuse to do so.
But its not concrete is the point. Gender is much more complicated than male/female.
And to people saying you shouldn't care about trump supporters, unfortunately your two party system and gerrymandering means that you actually do need to consider how to respond.
Excuse you? Did you read the article in the slightest to see what the point of this is and how this will affect us?
And this right here is why the ignorance or 1 issue voter defense moderates and cowardly trump and Republican voters try to push is bullshit and no one but them buy it. You can't have this be an open and huge part of your parties platform that garners votes and at the same time pretend it doesn't exist or were ignorant of it. And it's insulting that these people think and expect us to believe them and then act indignant when the people effected by their bullshit doesn't buy their excuse.
Yeah, I just Googled it. First one I saw was someone for whom shaming got to him and caused him to regret his choice, and understand how dumb he was.
From what I've been able gather the science behind this actually contradicts this decision.
i love how ignorant cis people like to throw around science and rationality in these discussions. it never seems to occur to them that the trans people currently sounding alarm bells might be, by necessity, far more expert on topics of gender and sex than basically any cis person who doesn't have a doctorate or phd on the subject.
spend 5 fucking minutes listening to a trans person about gender identity and this is immediately clear. their lives essentially depend on it.
spend 5 fucking minutes listening to a trans person about gender identity and this is immediately clear. their lives essentially depend on it.
I'm not sure how they are going to find a 'scientific basis' for this bullshit considering science acknowledges the existence of trans people. Probably the same 'scientific basis' they use to deny climate change.
This is fucking disgusting, trans people exist, have existed for as long as human beings have existed, and they aren't going anywhere asshole.
This is fucking disgusting, trans people exist, have existed for as long as human beings have existed, and they aren't going anywhere asshole.
"Tee hee. I'm okay with this, because it doesn't affect me, and I haven't bothered to read the rest of the thread where it explicitly states how this will effect trans people!"
No, he doesn't care because it doesn't affect him.
I have seen this occasionally. It's funny though because they interviewed one of the duck dynasty wives about her vote for trump and she said something like she regretted it but then when asked if she will vote for him again she strangely wouldn't answer. That's why I'd love to see the 2020 ballot sheet of those that say they regret voting for him.
Why are you even lurking around there still? Place is a shithole. Move on.
That aside, this is a damn shitty move. Can't believe that some transgender folks supported him.
trump regret specifically means nothing. the policies this administration has been implementing are 100% in line with republican party orthodoxy.
every republican supporter for the last several decades should be made to feel ashamed of themselves. they have all contributed to this.
but of course once trump is gone vast amounts of energy in the media and centrist political class will be dedicated toward reforming the party's image and distancing themselves from trump's tone while they continue to go even further right in policy and become even more venal and cruel.
Only accepting one of two sexes isn't neccessarily physicaly accurate either. I don't know if there's any good medical reason to have sex on a birth certificate, but it still ignores the different brain structure of transgender people, and intersex people which covers a wide variety of other non-binary external and internal physical developments. Lots of things aren't readily apparent just by looking at the genitals. Can't say any doctor I'm aware of has ever referenced a birth certificate for medical purposes either.
Don't tell me what to do!
I view it every now and then out of curiosity.
That's nice, but do they have kitty kats and wee wees at birth? Checkmate libruhl science.
I wouldn't suggest it if I didn't care. Place is a mess. Spare yourself lol.
