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Strafer

The Flagpole is Wider
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Oct 25, 2017
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You can pinpoint it in the dialogue in the opening.

"Why do you want to know my name?"
"Cause I want to know who I'm looking at."

It changes the entire scene and the whole thing becomes sinister as fuck and just ratchets up from there.

you can thank Kevin Williamson for that, he wrote an incredible screenplay.
 

Vault Boy

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Nov 2, 2017
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I remember seeing this movie on opening weekend, when it was an unknown quantity and the buzz was just starting to build. There were literal screams in the audience.

One thing a lot of people forget (or just didn't know, in the case of younger folks) is that the marketing for the first movie completely hid the look of the mask, and this was before the internet would have instantly spoiled that kind of thing. All you knew going in was that there was a killer, of course. In that first scene with Barrymore, when you first get an up close and personal view of the way the mask looked - it was terrifying the first time.
 

jon bones

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Oct 25, 2017
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Scream is still an exceptional movie, for sure. Scream 4 is also quite good.

You can pinpoint it in the dialogue in the opening.

"Why do you want to know my name?"
"Cause I want to know who I'm looking at."

It changes the entire scene and the whole thing becomes sinister as fuck and just ratchets up from there.

immediate chills... i feel like i need to rewatch this lol
 

Strafer

The Flagpole is Wider
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Oct 25, 2017
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Apparently season 3 will bring on the original mask, not sure when it starts though, it's been on hiatus ever since the Weinstein stuff.
 

Slim

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Sep 24, 2018
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Rewatched it after so many years. It's still a masterpiece. Ghostface mask imo is the out of all horror movies.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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What I like the most about the Scream series is that while the films are mostly comedic, the thrills are still legit and the tension is high. I guess it's because most of the characters were so good, that you dreaded to see them die.

I also think Scream 4 is very underrated. It did a great job of trying to make the series more modern and Emma Roberts was reaaallly good, probably the best performance she has ever done.

I couldn't buy Rory Culkin as the killer though. The dude is a basically a twig who could blow over in the wind, I couldn't imagine him being a physical threat as Ghostface
 

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People thought this was the scariest movie ever made when it came out. Rumors of copycats going after people leaving the theater were everywhere at my high school.
 

Laserdisk

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May 11, 2018
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It's amazing and it's also amazing that's it's nearly 2019 and we still only have the unrated cut in SD
 

itwasTuesday

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Oct 30, 2017
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If you love Scream, you should also catch Craven's previous take on a meta franchise. New Nightmare.

Which is amazing in it's own right.

Also Liver alone.
 

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The first Scream blew me away when it first released. Easily a classic.

Aside from 3, which sucked, Scream is one of the more consistent horror franchises. As others have mentioned -- 1, 2, and 4 are all enjoyable.
 

Eulala

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Aug 8, 2018
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They're all really good if you just accept that Scream 3 was a comedy saved by Parker Posey and Monica from Friends with unfortunate bangs.

Shame that Scream 4 didn't do gangbusters at the box office. Pretty sure Hayden Panettiere's best friend character would've survived to lead the new trilogy.
 

jph139

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Oct 25, 2017
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Watched it for the first time a few years ago and loved it - was really surprised by how well it held up.

Surprised to see in here that (some of) the sequels are actually decent too? I've seen them on some streaming services... I'll have to check them out when I get a chance. Always assumed they'd be schlock.
 

excelsiorlef

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Oct 25, 2017
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FFS, all those white ass ABC shows looked alike to me sans Sabrina.

For that, here's another dated as shit song from the 2 OST



The first 3 Scream soundtracks are the soundtracks of my last few years of High School.... they're all I listened to, that and Black Sabbath lol

Eyes of Sand baby
 

Nali

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Oct 25, 2017
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Watched through the whole series for the first time over the course of the last year. The first one is brilliant and deftly balances being a subversion of and love letter to the entire slasher genre up to that point.

Surprised to see in here that (some of) the sequels are actually decent too? I've seen them on some streaming services... I'll have to check them out when I get a chance. Always assumed they'd be schlock.
Inasmuch as the original had a lot to say about slasher flicks in general, the sequels each have something to say about the later points of the slasher franchise life cycle. They never quite reach the heights of the original, but they never get bad, either.
 

CrichtonKicks

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Oct 25, 2017
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Surprised to see in here that (some of) the sequels are actually decent too? I've seen them on some streaming services... I'll have to check them out when I get a chance. Always assumed they'd be schlock.

The series benefits enormously from a very consistent cast and crew. Wes Craven directs all 4. Kevin Williamson wrote 1,2 and 4. The cast stays intact even while their careers were taking off.

There is no case of "oh, this is the direct-to-video knockoff made by an inferior director on a lower budget." Scream 3 is generally considered the worst but it still feels of apiece with the rest of the series.
 

HomokHarcos

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Jul 11, 2018
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I watched it last week. Fun, enjoyable movie. I didn't know Drew Barrymore's character was going to be killed I thought she would be the protagonist of the movie. Although it doesn't come near A Nightmare on Elm Street for me.
 

a916

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Oct 25, 2017
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Was it not a good take on the slasher genre? That's what I remember.

Ironically the sequels fell into the same slasher traps.
 

excelsiorlef

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Gonna cross post my thoughts on the series that I wrote after my recent rewatch of the series for 31 Days of Horror

I touch a lot on how 3 is made better when thinking of it as part of the whole, specifically how 4 makes 3 more digestible
Gonna write about the Scream series as a whole, from start to finish this might be the most consistent slasher series ever, even the weak link Scream 3 when watched as part of the while series works. In fact, I'd argue Scream 4 redeems Scream 3, 3 does not work as the finale of the series, which 4 absolutely does. The subversion in 4 is top notch and would not have existed had 3 been done as Williamson originally planned. Williamson reused his originbal ideas that he never got to do in Scream 3 (as he didn't write it) for Scream 4... and those ideas work much better in 2011 than they would have in 2000.



What really hit me watching them all together is that Scream is the only slasher series that is truly and utterly about the Survivors and not the killer.... they are the unkillables that just keep coming back. That's what makes Scream so special, Sidney (who I'd argue is the greatest final girl in slasher history, watch her character progression, her strength in each film, she goes from innocent girl in 1 to battered but trying to move on college student whose judgments are influenced by her pas trauma in 2 , to recluse but trying to use her pain to help other women in 3, to someone who finally found herself in 4 ), Dewey and Gale, get their asses kicked in every film, they get beaten, stabbed, shot... but they don't die... the killers are mere humans the surviving trio are the superhumans. It's brilliant, because Craven never made you think they couldn't, 3 set them up to do so and the hype build up to 4 in terms of press and what not screamed that Emma Roberts was going to be positioned as the new MC, to build new movies off of.

When you watch Scream 3 as part of a whole it serves it;s purpose (more so than Williamson's original 3 idea... which I;d have loved to have seen don't get me wrong, look it up there's some cool ideas, some of which he used in 4 and some he didn't), but this 3 while less violent and more comedic actually wrapped up Sidney's core issues, we got closure entirely on the Sidney's mother thread. The reveals there work, and frankly Williamson wanted to go back to Woodsboro in ... which is too early, going back instead in Scream 4 years years later works so much better. The escalation from small town (1), to college town (2), to Hollywood (3) is pitch perfect, especially with the furthering of the movie within a movie concept introduced in 2... setting 3 on the set of the third movie within a movie set is solid escalation of that concept introduced in 2. I'm kinda just rambling, but this is the series that opened my mind to the horror genre so I have a lot to say about it. Anyway like i said Scream 4 retroactively makes 3 have a better place in the canon, returning to Woodsboro, 15 years after Scream 1 rather than just 3 is more meaningful., the contrast between 3 being Hollywood back lots and 4, a return home is more meaningful.

Finally the lack of gratuitous sex and nudity in the series is wonderful. Sticks to what's important, gratuitous death and violence ;)... but legit nudity for the sake of nudity is a frustration I have with slashers.

All in all I spoke little about 1 and 2, but that's because there's not much to say, they are classic of the genre for a reason. I love this series.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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When I saw it in theater I thought it was really mostly a run of the mill 90s romp and it was. Watching it in the 90s, felt largely like another movie on short attention spans. The thing is, all these years later Scream really still is a 90s romp around 90s tropes and style BUT.. its executed to perfection. Its distilled like fine whiskey and adds just the right about of flare when needed that keeps it timeless. If they had leaned in just about any more than they did, we would have gotten something like House on Haunted Hill etc etc.. and we'd forget about it in 2 years. It helped that they built a brand new, iconic villain in costume/mask that actually worked in all of its simplicity. The characters were perfectly developed where you actually cared about them dying and while they play into horror tropes the script was written just tight enough that when the twists are revealed... you really didn't see them coming. Like fine whiskey, again.

My guess is when they set out to make Scream there was no intention it would ever be as good as it was, but because the crew working on the film both behind and in front of the camera were paying attention to every detail, it worked. You can tell this was a passion project built by people hungry to make a career in industry back then.
 

Playco Armboy

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Oct 28, 2017
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3 was the one with Carrie Fisher and Courtney Cox, right? Awful. 4 was somewhat a return to form (especially the bedroom scene) but 1 and 2 were miles ahead.