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N.Domixis

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
9,208
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Insomnica breaking more first party records?
 

Ebtesam

Self-Requested Ban
Member
Apr 1, 2018
4,638
I'm thinking this too.

And...do Sony release in 2019 also...or will Arrogant Sony return and think they can wait til 2020....lol.

They might actually claim the Arrogant title again if they wait and they don't have to.
they can wait becouse they still have games left and PS4 still sells really well

but Xbox one sales are worst So it make Since to Xbox team to release they Next-Gen at the end of 2019
 

Benji

Self Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,114
The platform splits for Starlink are CRAZY btw

Switch is so far ahead of the other 2 it's almost unbelievable. That Starfox crossover was a great business move for both Nintendo and Ubi
 

Renna Hazel

Member
Oct 27, 2017
11,572
The platform splits for Starlink are CRAZY btw

Switch is so far ahead of the other 2 it's almost unbelievable. That Starfox crossover was a great business move for both Nintendo and Ubi
I figured that would be the case when the PS4 version was number 5k on Amazon. Would you say the Switch version is selling well though? I got the impression all 3 versions were kind of falling flat sales wise.
 

Benji

Self Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,114
I figured that would be the case when the PS4 version was number 5k on Amazon. Would you say the Switch version is selling well though? I got the impression all 3 versions were kind of falling flat sales wise.

Not great as a whole certainly not. Toys to Life is a wasteland in the current market.

But the Switch version is doing pretty ok all things considered imo. Should comfortably outsell the other 2 versions combined. By like a big margin
 

Mory Dunz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
36,370
The platform splits for Starlink are CRAZY btw

Switch is so far ahead of the other 2 it's almost unbelievable. That Starfox crossover was a great business move for both Nintendo and Ubi

didn't we expect that though.

my estimate was about 50% Switch, 30% PS4 20% Xbox.

can't be more than that right? Well depends on what 'crazy' means I suppose

What I'm more interested in is if the total overall sales are actually good.

Not great as a whole certainly not. Toys to Life is a wasteland in the current market.

But the Switch version is doing pretty ok all things considered imo. Should comfortably outsell the other 2 versions combined. By like a big margin

well dang, nevermind about my previous percentages
 

Jon Carter

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
5,746
Not great as a whole certainly not. Toys to Life is a wasteland in the current market.

But the Switch version is doing pretty ok all things considered imo. Should comfortably outsell the other 2 versions combined. By like a big margin

Do you think it's possible for Ubisoft to be happy with the game's performance even if the toys don't sell? It feels like they greenlit this whole project back when toys to life was still a thing and they kinda had to stick with it even if they knew that aspect of it was going to bomb. I expected the game to flop but could it still do well as a game even if the whole venture doesn't pan out?
 

El Manco

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,144
So we have two calculations, since Sept-2017 wasn't public. They agree on NSW and XB1 (260K and 175K, respectively) but differ on PS4 (420K and 425K, since I would round to nearest 5K for predictions). Welfare's PS4 matches better using just the Sept-2018 ratios. Go with Welfare's PS4 for predictions, then?
Yes. I already used Welfare's PS4 for January-September numbers I posted later.
 

DecoReturns

Member
Oct 27, 2017
22,003
Not great as a whole certainly not. Toys to Life is a wasteland in the current market.

But the Switch version is doing pretty ok all things considered imo. Should comfortably outsell the other 2 versions combined. By like a big margin
Not surprised by this.

Honestly. Only ended up caring for it because of the Star Fox integration. They got me there, I really most of the Star Fox games. Skipped Zero, So I've been dying for a Star Fox game.
 
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donny2112

Member
Oct 27, 2017
620
That's ... not ... at all accurate. There's lots of talent in the industry that's not winning (forget hardware, think not making it as a profession). Being able to market yourself or be marketed makes a way bigger impact. The best talent no one knows about is still the talent that no one knows about and doesn't get the job/sales. Talent absolutely does not always win. o.O
 

Wander_

Banned
Feb 26, 2018
5,552
Not great as a whole certainly not. Toys to Life is a wasteland in the current market.

But the Switch version is doing pretty ok all things considered imo. Should comfortably outsell the other 2 versions combined. By like a big margin

what about nba 2k19? can you tell us if the switch version is doin well?
 
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donny2112

Member
Oct 27, 2017
620
Yes. I already used Welfare's PS4 for January-September numbers I posted later.

Cool. (^_^) Going with the below for predictions, then.

PS4 - 425K
NSW - 260K
XB1 - 175K


NPD Prediction Results - September 2018

Units

1. ScopehJ - 25,000
2. Omnislayer - 30,000
3. Kyser73 - 45,000
3. WillySJ3 - 45,000
5. Caiops - 50,000
5. Jokegeta - 50,000
5. MrTired - 50,000
5. Noobie - 50,000
5. Zedark - 50,000
5. talkTOmyHAND - 50,000
11. panda-zebra - 52,000
12. Toni - 55,000
12. slavesnyder - 55,000
14. Jade1962 - 60,000
14. ethomaz - 60,000
16. chroeser - 61,000
17. Elandyll - 70,000
18. Stanng243 - 80,000
18. jroc74 - 80,000
20. Nocturnal - 85,000
20. allan-bh - 85,000
22. Adventureracing - 90,000
22. Gryflet - 90,000
22. John Bender - 90,000
22. Vlodril - 90,000
22. kowalski - 90,000
27. CosmicBolt - 95,000
27. brykuhn91 - 95,000
29. Expy - 100,000
29. v_iHuGi - 100,000
31. Bitch Pudding - 110,000
31. DMVfan123 - 110,000
31. MasterChumly - 110,000
31. RevengeTaken - 110,000
31. klanar - 110,000
31. pitseleh - 110,000
31. useyourloaf - 110,000
38. Andromeda - 112,000
39. DanR93 - 115,000
39. Grads - 115,000
39. HighJump - 115,000
39. Kill3r7 - 115,000
43. Peek-a-boo! - 117,000
44. jayu26 - 119,000
45. DrakenAstro - 120,000
45. patapon - 120,000
47. Corporate Clown - 125,000
47. Kaveri - 125,000
47. LordKano - 125,000
50. Fdkn - 127,000
50. Hammer24 - 127,000
52. Astrogamer - 130,000
52. Darth Smurf X - 130,000
52. Mbolibombo - 130,000
52. Rouk' - 130,000
52. Sangetsu-II - 130,000
52. TurnoftheCentury - 130,000
52. donny2112 - 130,000
59. Myriotes - 140,000
59. Pablo Mesa - 140,000
59. Ryng Manuel Tolu - 140,000
59. score01 - 140,000
63. cakely - 144,000
64. DeuceGamer - 145,000
64. Harris Katz - 145,000
64. Kolx - 145,000
67. Heartskips - 150,000
68. Majiebeast - 153,000
69. Welfare - 154,000
69. freeradical - 154,000
71. OG_Thrills - 160,000
71. chobel - 160,000
71. shamanick - 160,000
74. wilmbreak - 164,000
75. ConfusedGamer - 165,000
75. James - 165,000
75. KillerMan91 - 165,000
78. Primethius - 175,000
79. Wandu - 178,000
80. P-Switch - 180,000
81. El Manco - 190,000
81. Pachter - 190,000
83. Slarvax - 194,000
84. Ex-Actarus - 210,000
84. Sterok - 210,000
86. Sheepshakey - 270,000


Points
Code:
     September 2018                  Overall 2018 Top (7/9)
01.  ScopehJ                123.11   Andromeda                746.63
02.  Omnislayer             119.53   Welfare                  732.12
03.  Kyser73                115.48   CosmicBolt               723.06
04.  WillySJ3               114.42   mejin                    716.81
05.  Caiops                 111.52   MrTired                  713.36
06.  Jokegeta               111.52   Elandyll                 711.11
07.  MrTired                111.21   kowalski                 709.70
08.  talkTOmyHAND           109.90   Ryng Manuel Tolu         707.54
09.  Zedark                 109.28   Expy                     706.90
10.  Noobie                 108.66   chroeser                 705.31
11.  slavesnyder            103.51   Peek-a-boo!              701.30
12.  panda-zebra            102.70   jayu26                   700.16
13.  Toni                   102.26   Fdkn                     699.27
14.  Stanng243              102.17   allan-bh                 697.96
15.  ethomaz                102.00   pitseleh                 697.62
16.  Jade1962               102.00   useyourloaf              696.42
17.  Elandyll               100.71   jroc74                   695.30
18.  jroc74                 100.43   KillerMan91              692.24
19.  chroeser               100.34   Kaveri                   691.19
20.  brykuhn91               99.87   freeradical              686.89
21.  Adventureracing         99.39   Gryflet                  686.03
22.  jayu26                  98.35   Nocturnal                682.15
23.  Rouk'                   98.25   Grads                    682.02
24.  Gryflet                 98.15   Corporate Clown          679.05
25.  Bitch Pudding           98.07   Martl                    677.31
26.  DMVfan123               98.07   Wandu                    676.71
27.  patapon                 98.04   Hammer24                 674.98
28.  Pablo Mesa              97.96   Kill3r7                  674.25
29.  Nocturnal               97.86   James                    670.96
30.  RevengeTaken            97.83   Sangetsu-II              670.23
31.  HighJump                97.68   score01                  670.15
32.  Peek-a-boo!             97.55   Stanng243                668.99
33.  CosmicBolt              97.45   donny2112                668.68
34.  allan-bh                97.30   slavesnyder              666.36
35.  pitseleh                97.08   Zedark                   665.78
36.  kowalski                97.03   MasterChumly             665.41
37.  John Bender             97.03   Jildo Fisterfilly        662.70
38.  useyourloaf             96.95   Darth Smurf X            661.99
39.  TurnoftheCentury        96.50   ethomaz                  661.57
40.  Vlodril                 96.41   Bitch Pudding            659.72
41.  Grads                   96.31   Kyser73                  659.42
42.  v_iHuGi                 96.06   Majiebeast               657.33
43.  Heartskips              96.06   TurnoftheCentury         653.33
44.  MasterChumly            95.90   chobel                   651.80
45.  klanar                  95.58   Astrogamer               651.65
46.  DrakenAstro             95.55   Primethius               650.76
47.  shamanick               95.40   cakely                   650.75
48.  Astrogamer              95.32   DanR93                   650.08
49.  Kill3r7                 94.63   Slarvax                  649.53
50.  Sangetsu-II             94.39   ConfusedGamer            642.74

Congratulations, ScopehJ! :D
 

patapon

Banned
Dec 7, 2017
3,614
Cool. (^_^) Going with the below for predictions, then.

PS4 - 425K
NSW - 260K
XB1 - 175K


NPD Prediction Results - September 2018

Units

1. ScopehJ - 25,000
2. Omnislayer - 30,000
3. Kyser73 - 45,000
3. WillySJ3 - 45,000
5. Caiops - 50,000
5. Jokegeta - 50,000
5. MrTired - 50,000
5. Noobie - 50,000
5. Zedark - 50,000
5. talkTOmyHAND - 50,000
11. panda-zebra - 52,000
12. Toni - 55,000
12. slavesnyder - 55,000
14. Jade1962 - 60,000
14. ethomaz - 60,000
16. chroeser - 61,000
17. Elandyll - 70,000
18. Stanng243 - 80,000
18. jroc74 - 80,000
20. Nocturnal - 85,000
20. allan-bh - 85,000
22. Adventureracing - 90,000
22. Gryflet - 90,000
22. John Bender - 90,000
22. Vlodril - 90,000
22. kowalski - 90,000
27. CosmicBolt - 95,000
27. brykuhn91 - 95,000
29. Expy - 100,000
29. v_iHuGi - 100,000
31. Bitch Pudding - 110,000
31. DMVfan123 - 110,000
31. MasterChumly - 110,000
31. RevengeTaken - 110,000
31. klanar - 110,000
31. pitseleh - 110,000
31. useyourloaf - 110,000
38. Andromeda - 112,000
39. DanR93 - 115,000
39. Grads - 115,000
39. HighJump - 115,000
39. Kill3r7 - 115,000
43. Peek-a-boo! - 117,000
44. jayu26 - 119,000
45. DrakenAstro - 120,000
45. patapon - 120,000
47. Corporate Clown - 125,000
47. Kaveri - 125,000
47. LordKano - 125,000
50. Fdkn - 127,000
50. Hammer24 - 127,000
52. Astrogamer - 130,000
52. Darth Smurf X - 130,000
52. Mbolibombo - 130,000
52. Rouk' - 130,000
52. Sangetsu-II - 130,000
52. TurnoftheCentury - 130,000
52. donny2112 - 130,000
59. Myriotes - 140,000
59. Pablo Mesa - 140,000
59. Ryng Manuel Tolu - 140,000
59. score01 - 140,000
63. cakely - 144,000
64. DeuceGamer - 145,000
64. Harris Katz - 145,000
64. Kolx - 145,000
67. Heartskips - 150,000
68. Majiebeast - 153,000
69. Welfare - 154,000
69. freeradical - 154,000
71. OG_Thrills - 160,000
71. chobel - 160,000
71. shamanick - 160,000
74. wilmbreak - 164,000
75. ConfusedGamer - 165,000
75. James - 165,000
75. KillerMan91 - 165,000
78. Primethius - 175,000
79. Wandu - 178,000
80. P-Switch - 180,000
81. El Manco - 190,000
81. Pachter - 190,000
83. Slarvax - 194,000
84. Ex-Actarus - 210,000
84. Sterok - 210,000
86. Sheepshakey - 270,000


Points
Code:
     September 2018                  Overall 2018 Top (7/9)
01.  ScopehJ                123.11   Andromeda                746.63
02.  Omnislayer             119.53   Welfare                  732.12
03.  Kyser73                115.48   CosmicBolt               723.06
04.  WillySJ3               114.42   mejin                    716.81
05.  Caiops                 111.52   MrTired                  713.36
06.  Jokegeta               111.52   Elandyll                 711.11
07.  MrTired                111.21   kowalski                 709.70
08.  talkTOmyHAND           109.90   Ryng Manuel Tolu         707.54
09.  Zedark                 109.28   Expy                     706.90
10.  Noobie                 108.66   chroeser                 705.31
11.  slavesnyder            103.51   Peek-a-boo!              701.30
12.  panda-zebra            102.70   jayu26                   700.16
13.  Toni                   102.26   Fdkn                     699.27
14.  Stanng243              102.17   allan-bh                 697.96
15.  ethomaz                102.00   pitseleh                 697.62
16.  Jade1962               102.00   useyourloaf              696.42
17.  Elandyll               100.71   jroc74                   695.30
18.  jroc74                 100.43   KillerMan91              692.24
19.  chroeser               100.34   Kaveri                   691.19
20.  brykuhn91               99.87   freeradical              686.89
21.  Adventureracing         99.39   Gryflet                  686.03
22.  jayu26                  98.35   Nocturnal                682.15
23.  Rouk'                   98.25   Grads                    682.02
24.  Gryflet                 98.15   Corporate Clown          679.05
25.  Bitch Pudding           98.07   Martl                    677.31
26.  DMVfan123               98.07   Wandu                    676.71
27.  patapon                 98.04   Hammer24                 674.98
28.  Pablo Mesa              97.96   Kill3r7                  674.25
29.  Nocturnal               97.86   James                    670.96
30.  RevengeTaken            97.83   Sangetsu-II              670.23
31.  HighJump                97.68   score01                  670.15
32.  Peek-a-boo!             97.55   Stanng243                668.99
33.  CosmicBolt              97.45   donny2112                668.68
34.  allan-bh                97.30   slavesnyder              666.36
35.  pitseleh                97.08   Zedark                   665.78
36.  kowalski                97.03   MasterChumly             665.41
37.  John Bender             97.03   Jildo Fisterfilly        662.70
38.  useyourloaf             96.95   Darth Smurf X            661.99
39.  TurnoftheCentury        96.50   ethomaz                  661.57
40.  Vlodril                 96.41   Bitch Pudding            659.72
41.  Grads                   96.31   Kyser73                  659.42
42.  v_iHuGi                 96.06   Majiebeast               657.33
43.  Heartskips              96.06   TurnoftheCentury         653.33
44.  MasterChumly            95.90   chobel                   651.80
45.  klanar                  95.58   Astrogamer               651.65
46.  DrakenAstro             95.55   Primethius               650.76
47.  shamanick               95.40   cakely                   650.75
48.  Astrogamer              95.32   DanR93                   650.08
49.  Kill3r7                 94.63   Slarvax                  649.53
50.  Sangetsu-II             94.39   ConfusedGamer            642.74

Congratulations, ScopehJ! :D

Woohoo I am 45th xD
 

Kyoufu

Member
Oct 26, 2017
16,582
That's ... not ... at all accurate. There's lots of talent in the industry that's not winning (forget hardware, think not making it as a profession). Being able to market yourself or be marketed makes a way bigger impact. The best talent no one knows about is still the talent that no one knows about and doesn't get the job/sales. Talent absolutely does not always win. o.O

It's a meme bro.
 

Toni

Banned
Nov 13, 2017
1,983
Orlando, Florida
Cool. (^_^) Going with the below for predictions, then.

PS4 - 425K
NSW - 260K
XB1 - 175K


NPD Prediction Results - September 2018

Units

1. ScopehJ - 25,000
2. Omnislayer - 30,000
3. Kyser73 - 45,000
3. WillySJ3 - 45,000
5. Caiops - 50,000
5. Jokegeta - 50,000
5. MrTired - 50,000
5. Noobie - 50,000
5. Zedark - 50,000
5. talkTOmyHAND - 50,000
11. panda-zebra - 52,000
12. Toni - 55,000
12. slavesnyder - 55,000
14. Jade1962 - 60,000
14. ethomaz - 60,000
16. chroeser - 61,000
17. Elandyll - 70,000
18. Stanng243 - 80,000
18. jroc74 - 80,000
20. Nocturnal - 85,000
20. allan-bh - 85,000
22. Adventureracing - 90,000
22. Gryflet - 90,000
22. John Bender - 90,000
22. Vlodril - 90,000
22. kowalski - 90,000
27. CosmicBolt - 95,000
27. brykuhn91 - 95,000
29. Expy - 100,000
29. v_iHuGi - 100,000
31. Bitch Pudding - 110,000
31. DMVfan123 - 110,000
31. MasterChumly - 110,000
31. RevengeTaken - 110,000
31. klanar - 110,000
31. pitseleh - 110,000
31. useyourloaf - 110,000
38. Andromeda - 112,000
39. DanR93 - 115,000
39. Grads - 115,000
39. HighJump - 115,000
39. Kill3r7 - 115,000
43. Peek-a-boo! - 117,000
44. jayu26 - 119,000
45. DrakenAstro - 120,000
45. patapon - 120,000
47. Corporate Clown - 125,000
47. Kaveri - 125,000
47. LordKano - 125,000
50. Fdkn - 127,000
50. Hammer24 - 127,000
52. Astrogamer - 130,000
52. Darth Smurf X - 130,000
52. Mbolibombo - 130,000
52. Rouk' - 130,000
52. Sangetsu-II - 130,000
52. TurnoftheCentury - 130,000
52. donny2112 - 130,000
59. Myriotes - 140,000
59. Pablo Mesa - 140,000
59. Ryng Manuel Tolu - 140,000
59. score01 - 140,000
63. cakely - 144,000
64. DeuceGamer - 145,000
64. Harris Katz - 145,000
64. Kolx - 145,000
67. Heartskips - 150,000
68. Majiebeast - 153,000
69. Welfare - 154,000
69. freeradical - 154,000
71. OG_Thrills - 160,000
71. chobel - 160,000
71. shamanick - 160,000
74. wilmbreak - 164,000
75. ConfusedGamer - 165,000
75. James - 165,000
75. KillerMan91 - 165,000
78. Primethius - 175,000
79. Wandu - 178,000
80. P-Switch - 180,000
81. El Manco - 190,000
81. Pachter - 190,000
83. Slarvax - 194,000
84. Ex-Actarus - 210,000
84. Sterok - 210,000
86. Sheepshakey - 270,000

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Coming in at 12. With my 420k hardware prediction for this month.

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Benji

Self Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,114
Do you think it's possible for Ubisoft to be happy with the game's performance even if the toys don't sell? It feels like they greenlit this whole project back when toys to life was still a thing and they kinda had to stick with it even if they knew that aspect of it was going to bomb. I expected the game to flop but could it still do well as a game even if the whole venture doesn't pan out?


Hmmm it's pretty early still so let's see how it legs out. But honestly I dont really see this as doing that well in the grand scheme of things.

Like the Switch version for a Toys to Life game in today's market I think is going pretty ok. If all 3 versions were selling on par with it then I think Ubi might have something. But as it is I just think its too late for this sort of thing really
 

El Manco

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,144
Any idea what could be the record for a SIE published game in its launch NPD month?
Unit sales or dollar sales. We know it is GOW for last metric, but not the number.
 

Adventureracing

The Fallen
Nov 7, 2017
8,035
Hmmm it's pretty early still so let's see how it legs out. But honestly I dont really see this as doing that well in the grand scheme of things.

Like the Switch version for a Toys to Life game in today's market I think is going pretty ok. If all 3 versions were selling on par with it then I think Ubi might have something. But as it is I just think its too late for this sort of thing really

Not surprised the switch version is performing much better. The advertising I've seen for the game heavily featured the star fox content and made it feel like that was the definitive version. I felt like if I'd seen that as a non switch owner it would have turned me off the game.
 

SilverX

Member
Jan 21, 2018
13,014
So this is the lowest September for X1 this gen?

People will probably just say its ¨flat¨ compared to last year, but I think it is their most disappointing. Last September was understandably low given that the Xbox One X was so close to launching but this year they had the X, S, Xbox All Access, and a number of new bundles. How they couldn´t achieve some growth with all those things is hard to believe.
 

Benji

Self Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,114
It's a poor month for Xbox hardware. Theres not really any way around that

It was down on a weekly average from August, down YoY, etc.
 
Oct 28, 2017
8,071
2001
People will probably just say its ¨flat¨ compared to last year, but I think it is their most disappointing. Last September was understandably low given that the Xbox One X was so close to launching but this year they had the X, S, Xbox All Access, and a number of new bundles. How they couldn´t achieve some growth with all those things is hard to believe.

Ppl already waiting for Scarlet? Just a guess.
 

Sterok

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,084
I'll never understand how Nintendo co-opted Upisoft's new IP to basically become a new Star Fox game in the public eye. I'm sure it's working out for both sides since I doubt Starlink would sell without those skins, but it feels surreal that they did it successfully without it being planned from the start.
 

Jon Carter

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
5,746
Spider-man game is first-party thought just like Bloodborne.


That made curious... how can Star Fox be in a non-Nintendo game?

It's not the first third-party game starring Nintendo characters. Last year you had Mario+Rabbids and Fire Emblem Warriors.

Nintendo approached Ubisoft at, I believe, E3 2017, after they unveiled Starlink, and suggested a partnership. Nintendo probably saw more potential in the game than it had and Ubisoft probably saw that their game was likely going to flop. If not for that partnership, imagine the sales. It was definitely a good move for Ubisoft.
 

bane833

Banned
Nov 3, 2017
4,530
Maybe not, but I do think there's a business case to be made for it making sense.
Even if there was a business case to be made, which I really don't see, software development takes way way too long these days for Sony to have anything substantial ready in late 2019. Add that there are still plenty of big PS4 exclusives coming (some of them won't hit 2019)and you have no reason whatsoever to rush a PS5 to the market in 2019.
 

GamerDude

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
6,313
Even if there was a business case to be made, which I really don't see, software development takes way way too long these days for Sony to have anything substantial ready in late 2019. Add that there are still plenty of big PS4 exclusives coming (some of them won't hit 2019)and you have no reason whatsoever to rush a PS5 to the market in 2019.

Why would it be a rush to the market? The PS4 will have been out for six years at that point. And there definitely is a business case to be made, but it's totally cool to agree to disagree about it.