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Kotaku R* QA Studio With Hardest Crunch Told Today That Supposed Mandatory Overtime Is Optional
- Thread starter Dinobot
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That part about making yourself look better for progression basically makes the overtime mandatory if you want any hope of being promoted smh.
While overtime may not technically be mandatory, you're probably seen as a weak link by management if you don't work as much as possible. And that very likely doesn't translate to a long, fruitful career with the company.
It's weird that this quote which is super edgy in its original context is just straight up a true statement when shifted into this context.
I don't think the Kotaku title is that great. Seems like the main thing here is that Rockstar is changing their policy at this office in response to the public discussion.
Kotaku said:
Wow what an awful system. I can imagine people not being comfortable saying no!
It's totally optional* guys
*but ya better work your ass everytime i'm blinking in your direction
*but ya better work your ass everytime i'm blinking in your direction
what if the workers could get together and negotiate whether things are "part of the job"?
Other main thing that studio with "the worst" crunch did 50+h weeks with max of 3 days of overtime per week and 1 weekend day in a month and all paid.
And we're done here. It was hilarious that people thought Mandatory Overtime wasn't a real thing.
So people who have entrenched themselves in their opinion. There seems to be nothing that will change your mind.
So is the whole conversation pointless?
So is the whole conversation pointless?
From the reddit post:
Edit: Average of 17 weeks normally.
Isn't that illegal in the EU? 48 hours should be the maximum on an average of a few months.
Edit: Average of 17 weeks normally.
I'm sorry but it's QA...
It's awesome that they are no longer going to ask people to do overtime, but QA is not development work, which is what the previous topic was about. QA is a very different job with very different expectations, I would argue.
It's awesome that they are no longer going to ask people to do overtime, but QA is not development work, which is what the previous topic was about. QA is a very different job with very different expectations, I would argue.
Sure, this is just one department in one studio. We had people from other departments talk about crunch too.
Pretty much.
This kind of stuff is always implied. Managers need to send people home instead of expecting them to take the lead if people start staying overtime.
Edit: crunch in the tech industry is just how things are done. It sucks but it's the norm not the exception.
So weird that they would change their policy on this. Y'know, it's almost as if Rockstar recognized there was a problem with too much mandatory overtime or something.
Also that reddit post is a good demonstration of why Rockstar providing the Guardian with their reported hours was completely pointless - people in these situations chronically underreport or don't report their overtime at all.
Also that reddit post is a good demonstration of why Rockstar providing the Guardian with their reported hours was completely pointless - people in these situations chronically underreport or don't report their overtime at all.
So QA shouldn't get decent workers rights then? No one in any job should have to work 70-80 hour weeks. Especially if some of that is unpaid.
Lol yes if your boss schedules you for overtime you are going to assume working that overtime is mandatory. No one looks at their schedule and is like 'nah boss, not coming in that day, sorry' and expects to keep that job for long.
The fact that managers were scheduling people for hours and just expected them to say 'no' at some point and think that was an OK thing to do is bullshit.
The fact that managers were scheduling people for hours and just expected them to say 'no' at some point and think that was an OK thing to do is bullshit.
