Exactly and it will always be remembered that he was part of gamersgate and one of the people that helped make it what it was.
Yeah I don't get how his defenders can gloss over things like that.
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John “TotalBiscuit” Bain to be inducted into Esports Hall of Fame as first non-player
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But it is fully correct...and he didn't walk it back....can we please stop rewriting history here.
The point is not to say he never did anything good.
The point is not to lie, and be open with the fact he supported a hate movement that was started as a support for a disgruntled ex, picked up by /pol/ to do a smear campaign against his ex. The same movement which literally drove a shitload of women out of the industry as well as their allies, and still to this day continues to permeate the whole fabric of the communities with false pretenses. The fact that he said "i'm sorry" about comments like pretending Anita was lying about her threats means jack shit when he still basically never backed down from his support and even threw his own friends under the bus because they had the gall to point out he was indeed part of Gamergate and VERY much a an engine for it.
I mean if you even try to bring that topic up these days you know exactly what happens lol. That's a no go for obvious reasons, but I also didn't hear of Dorito Pope calibre things or journalsits getting flown to islands with a sweet hotel room for free since then, so I personally never felt like bringing it up again.
And looking at that Tweet of Total Biscuit in here, I'm willing to argue that he was one of those fooled, contrary to him knowingly being part of a hate movement like some people in here claim.
These are the facts, I'm sorry if it does not match up with the monster in your head.
Where's the hate in that tweet? I see "inclusiveness" written there.
PD: I guess it has something to do with gamergate, which I don't really know much about (or care about it).
No no no. That is absolutely the point that people are making in this thread.
They can't, but that doesn't mean one can't try, which he wasn't known for doing. Sure, he had some LGBTQ+ guests on and shut down a few assholes. I don't think that's that much effort for someone with the kind of power he had. To really turn it around and fight the flames he fanned he would've needed to change his whole schtick. Which I can't totally blame him for not doing, because about the time it would've been to do so, he was dying. That doesn't make him less of an asshole in the time he was a huge asshole in some of our books.
There's a reddit post in this thread of him supporting Gamergate that was from 2016 - that's not early days. And he also never apologised,
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Yeah you can try shape and mould that tweet into a harassment campaign but I ain't buying it. Show me another example.
I don't think people are ignoring it! But there's no ledger. It's not the case that if you do harmful things, or give oxygens to hate movements, that you can make up for it by being personable, friendly, or individually nice to individual people. The way to atone for the bad things you do is to directly atone for them, not by doing good to unrelated people, for unrelated reasons.
Gamergate (and the things over the last four years that it was a portent for) was a real traumatic event for a whole bunch of people, and TotalBiscuit was on the side of the harassers there, something he never made up for. He can't be forgiven for that, because he never asked for forgiveness, and that's a part of his legacy that can't be erased no matter how many times he was nice to folks.
Please link to where he walked back his GG support and apologized to those he hurt. The last GG related thing I've seen from him was in August 2017 where he attacked Anita for criticizing an article about online harassment that interviewed him without mentioning GG which went up on the anniversary of GG.
For a lot of people, any support or involvement in gamergate despite what the intention or confusion behind that support may have been is considered a scarlet letter that taints the person forever. Mainly because the whole gamergate event has become outsized in their heads as something that has not only continued but also lead to the current era of politics in America.
He was very vocal about not harassing people numerous times, in his videos, in his podcast, in his Twitter, Soundcloud etc.
Well you see, he made videos where he spent 40 minutes going through the graphics options of a videogame, and knowing if you can toggle the 4x asiotropic interfertron anti-aliasing subfilters separately from the 2x isolinear refraction specular doohickeys is a skill only he possessed, and those other hundreds of thousands of YouTube "content creators" covering such pitiful aspects of gaming such as their emotional responses to a game are all dumb hacks and something something ethics in gaming journalism, something something his like shall never be seen again in our time, something something put this ehero in an ehall of efame.
No, this is cool. My local McDonald's also puts a photo on the wall for burger flipper of the month. It's important that we recognise these invaluable contributions to society.
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