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Mbolibombo

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By the sound of it (ugh) I'm no audiophile.. I cant really spot such a difference that makes everyone go incredibly mad. There's a difference and I can hear it but I dont think it would change anything from me. I also did read like 4 reviews as well but didnt see anything about it either?

Either way, hopefully they patch it for everyone who is suffering by this. Seems like it's really bad for many of you.
 

jalkerway

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At least in the network test, it sounds especially terrible in surround sound. It was noticeable straight away, it just "feels" off.
 

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This is why I straight-up don't take most reviews seriously anymore when it comes to technical performance.
 

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It's frustrating, because now it's pretty much guaranteed to never get fixed.

Oh and by the way, the idea that only "audiophiles" will notice this is just....I don't even know what to say, really.
 

Skittzo

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It's frustrating, because now it's pretty much guaranteed to never get fixed.

Oh and by the way, the idea that only "audiophiles" will notice this is just....I don't even know what to say, really.

Maybe not audiophile, but you have to be someone that notices audio quality. Like, I really, honestly do not. I can tell the difference in the OP video easily because it's a side-by-side comparison but it's not something I would've noticed otherwise. I certainly didn't notice it in the network test, but I realize I don't notice these things and therefore took the word of people who do notice them, like you.
 

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Maybe not audiophile, but you have to be someone that notices audio quality. Like, I really, honestly do not. I can tell the difference in the OP video easily because it's a side-by-side comparison but it's not something I would've noticed otherwise. I certainly didn't notice it in the network test, but I realize I don't notice these things and therefore took the word of people who do notice them, like you.
Same. I definitely can tell there's a difference, but it just not enough to impact on my enjoyment of it, or something that I remain conscious of while I play. I totally sympathise with people who are annoyed by it though, and they should at least release an optional pack of better quality audio if possible.
 

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Framepacing issues too? Every from game at 30 fps seems to have that really annoying problem, yikes.
Sekiro will be the next test lol.
 

sleepnaught

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The demon fight sounds really bad...
Wow, that's horrendous. You dont have to be an "audio nerd" to tell this sounds atrocious. You don't even need a side by side comparison. Its so compressed and garbled sounding. Glad I'm skipping this port. This is completely unacceptable in a full priced AND late port.
 

decoyplatypus

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I can't really run the counterfactual of whether I would have noticed if not for this thread. I'm not someone who invests in an audio set up or plays with headphones (or better than $10 headphones). Maybe I wouldn't have thought much more than, "was the sound always a little off in this game?" But in any case I notice it now. It's bad. Not bad enough for me to skip the port. But I sure hope they fix it.
 

zma1013

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Framepacing issues too? Every from game at 30 fps seems to have that really annoying problem, yikes.
Sekiro will be the next test lol.

I doubt Sekiro will be the one to break that tradition. Either they don't think it's important enough to fix, don't know how to fix it, can't fix it because of some underlying engine issue, or maybe they aren't even aware of it. If they wanted to fix it, it would be fixed by now.
 

zma1013

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Can someone explain the button mapping thing? Are the button functions actually in different locations from all other versions or is this just a thing with Nintendo button naming being different?
 

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Can someone explain the button mapping thing? Are the button functions actually in different locations from all other versions or is this just a thing with Nintendo button naming being different?
The latter.

Which patch is it btw? 1.1.0? There was a patch when I started it up just now but it was 1.0.2

Ok one problem already. No way to remap the B and A buttons
That's exactly the part we need to figure out.
 

SwitchedOff

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Far more reviews on Metacritic -

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/dark-souls-remastered

After reading the reviews I've pretty much had it with these 'reviewers' as it's very obvious that some at least haven't really sat down and played the game properly - I base that on the fact that they would have noticed the terrible audio if they had played it properly. Or maybe they played it handheld only? Or with the sound turned down? Or in a noisy room? Or did they all have versions with good audio (although that seems unlikely).
 

Leona Lewis

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At least Digital Chumps noticed:

The Switch version's audio delivery is going to raise eyebrows. Nothing seemed amiss when I began Dark Souls Remastered in handheld mode. When I dropped it on my television and flipped on my moderately powerful soundbar (yeah, I know), I couldn't believe what I was hearing. It was like there was a level of static laced inside the sound effects and the music, rendering the audio output close to the 32kbps audio files I was stealing in 1999. For whatever reason Dark Souls Remastered's sound files have been horribly compressed and spread across the entire experience. I suppose you could get used to this, but, even as someone who isn't typically conscious of audio quality, this deficiency was alarming.

I don't give a shit about the audio since I only play in portable mode and Nintendo doesn't know what Bluetooth headsets are, so this part was far more vexing:

Neither the Joy-Con and the Pro Controller could be remapped, not addressing that weird disconnect between using A and B to natively confirm items on Nintendo platforms.

That's really going to suck if we can't remap these damn controls.
 

Skittzo

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Far more reviews on Metacritic -

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/dark-souls-remastered

After reading the reviews I've pretty much had it with these 'reviewers' as it's very obvious that some at least haven't really sat down and played the game properly - I base that on the fact that they would have noticed the terrible audio if they had played it properly. Or maybe they played it handheld only? Or with the sound turned down? Or in a noisy room? Or did they all have versions with good audio (although that seems unlikely).

Or maybe it's that this "fact" is not a fact and just an assumption which isn't always true. As several of us on this page have said, this isn't something everyone will notice unless they hear a side by side comparison.
 

SwitchedOff

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Or maybe it's that this "fact" is not a fact and just an assumption which isn't always true. As several of us on this page have said, this isn't something everyone will notice unless they hear a side by side comparison.

Nope. Anyone with reasonable hearing and headphones or decent TV speaker should notice the issues even if they haven't played the game before.
 

Pendas

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Neither the Joy-Con and the Pro Controller could be remapped, not addressing that weird disconnect between using A and B to natively confirm items on Nintendo platforms..

Urg man, I was looking forward to getting this version.. but if this is true I'm going to pass. I can get by with the audio issues, by having re-learn muscle memory and not being able to remap the dodge button is a hard pass.
 

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As someone who knows absolute jack shit about audio it is incredibly noticeable and incredibly shitty. Like that's some shovelware quality audio. Unacceptable.

And also what the fuck is with B being confirm??? They couldn't put in the tiny work to change that?
 

Skittzo

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Nope. Anyone with reasonable hearing and headphones or decent TV speaker should notice the issues even if they haven't played the game before.

Apparently then I don't have reasonable hearing. Who needs an ear doctor when you've got ERA!

As someone who knows absolute jack shit about audio it is incredibly noticeable and incredibly shitty. Like that's some shovelware quality audio. Unacceptable.

And also what the fuck is with B being confirm??? They couldn't put in the tiny work to change that?

There's an option to change the confirm button in the configure menu but for some completely insane reason it's been greyed out.
 

Vertpin

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GameStop cancelled my amiibo for no reason and I can't reorder it. I ordered the first minute it went up. So lame.
Did they fix the button prompts in the switch version?
 

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I doubt Sekiro will be the one to break that tradition. Either they don't think it's important enough to fix, don't know how to fix it, can't fix it because of some underlying engine issue, or maybe they aren't even aware of it. If they wanted to fix it, it would be fixed by now.

I mean, something like Horizon PS4 at 30 fps feels incredibly smooth compared to their output. Not being aware would be insane really for a dev. Nothing wrong with 30 by the way even if there are drops but they manage to make it feel like 20 somehow.
 

Skittzo

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Seriously though, maybe I do have shitty hearing. I mean, my hearing is actually fantastic in that I can hear a car door close like a block away when nobody else in the house has heard anything, but my ability to discern sounds has always been pretty bad. Like, at a club or bar with loud music you can shout into my ears at the top of your lungs from like an inch away and I'll still only be able to understand maybe a quarter of what you're saying.

Maybe my hearing discernment is bad (is that a thing?) which is why this isn't something I would've even noticed without a comparison video.

Lmao why in the world would it even be there? To taunt the player?

Yeah I have no idea. Someone a few pages back posted a theory that Nintendo doesn't allow games to offer the option to reconfigure menu buttons, which is the only possible explanation I can think of outside of downright ineptitude. Still makes zero sense but maybe that's it.
 
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Yeah I have no idea. Someone a few pages back posted a theory that Nintendo doesn't allow games to offer the option to reconfigure menu buttons, which is the only possible explanation I can think of outside of downright ineptitude. Still makes zero sense but maybe that's it.

Does this option have to be chosen before a specific point possibly? Like before you ever enter the actual game or something along those lines?
 

What-ok

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Not being able to remap all controls is strange, but learning to play it in a different way is fine by me. Will just take a little time to break old habits.
 

Skittzo

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Does this option have to be chosen before a specific point possibly? Like before you ever enter the actual game or something along those lines?

I asked that to someone the other day but I don't think I got a response. I asked if it was something that was only configurable in the main menu rather than in-game. Can anyone with the game check on that?

Also Nintendo Japan uploaded a video showing (seemingly) A being the button for confirm. I can't read Japanese so I can't confirm that's what it is but it's on the left side, whereas B is on the right side, on the bottom of the menu. Pic for reference:

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So if this is showing A for confirm how the hell did they enable that?

Apologies if this is off-topic since this is a thread for the audio issue, but people have been talking about the confirm/cancel issue here too.
 

Nere

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If the audio is the same as the network test then it is really bad. I don't usually notice things like that, but the audio on the network test was unacceptable, is it that bad?
 

SwitchedOff

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Well, if there's one thing that's been confirmed by this release, it's that many Switch owners are either hard of hearing or have terrible headphones or TV speakers. Or only play handheld. Perhaps there should be a scientific research project into the hearing of Switch gamers. :)
 

chicken_pasta

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The audio is terrible, even on the onboard speakers. Perhaps the people who can't notice it have never heard how other Souls games sound.