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Xater

Member
Oct 26, 2017
8,918
Germany
Last year in July we got the news that 90s Arcade Race is now known as 90s Super GP. Does anyone have any inside information? Is Nicalis just fucking things up again as usual?
 

Polk

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
4,281
Game has been in development for a long time. Probably a part-time project for a lone developer, who doesn't have the time to finish it.
If it's really part-time project that's fuck you to all Kickstarter backers: "As this goal has been met it's now certain that game will remain a full time project unitil completion".
 

thomasmahler

Game Director at Moon Studios
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
1,097
Vienna / Austria
I thought the guy sold everything to Nicalis? Isn't he already working on his next project, The Take Over or something?

I'm guessing Nicalis didn't understand what to do with it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,799
VIC, AUSTRALIA
Game has been in development for a long time. Probably a part-time project for a lone developer, who doesn't have the time to finish it.
Nicalis took it onboard years and years ago

Hello!

My name is Tyrone Rodriguez. I'm with Nicalis, Inc. You may or may not have heard of Nicalis, but we've worked with other talented developers on games like Cave Story, VVVVVV, NightSky and 1001 Spikes.

We're working with Anthony on The '90s Arcade Racer. Our collaboration will allow him to realize his vision of the game and make sure that he has the necessary Unity programming and design help he needs so that he can concentrate on art and other aspects. On our end, we'll be working on the Unity programming, physics, tuning and general design and production of the game.

I grew up playing arcade games and the racing genre has always been one of my favorites. I worked for a now-dead magazine called Tips&Tricks when Sega was at the top of its game in terms of hardware and racing games; being part of a magazine where we were supposed to be pros at games, I ended up spending a lot of time playing Virtua Racing, Daytona, Super GT (Scud Race outside the US), Daytona 2 and basically every other Sega racer (even the weird ones like Moto Raider).

For anyone asking about the physics, both Anthony and I know what arcade racers should feel like. I also have experience with racing games and actual track experience; I worked on The Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift (PS2, PSP), designing its drift physics. and have over 100 hours of real-world track time (open-wheel, street and race cars). Anthony and I won't stop until we get the tuning just right.

Oh, by the way, we'll be publishing the game on Wii U eShop, too.
 

xyla

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,434
Germany
All I've seen about this game looked great - would love for it finally come out sometime along the live of this console generation.
 

Solus

Member
Oct 26, 2017
304
A few years ago it seemed like old school arcade racers were about to make a comeback through the indie scene. What happened? Did any of those come out? Did any of them turn out to be decent? Feels like all of them were left unfinished. Shame I was really looking forward to them.
 

Deleted member 5596

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,747
I thought the guy sold everything to Nicalis? Isn't he already working on his next project, The Take Over or something?

I'm guessing Nicalis didn't understand what to do with it.

I remember he expressed the intention to take it back from Nicalis, but I guess that didn't come into fruition.

It feels like Nicalis just shelved this, which is a shame.
 

thomasmahler

Game Director at Moon Studios
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
1,097
Vienna / Austria
A few years ago it seemed like old school arcade racers were about to make a comeback through the indie scene. What happened? Did any of those come out? Did any of them turn out to be decent? Feels like all of them were left unfinished. Shame I was really looking forward to them.

It's easy to make a prototype, it's hard to make a finished product.
 

Atolm

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,846
A few years ago it seemed like old school arcade racers were about to make a comeback through the indie scene. What happened? Did any of those come out? Did any of them turn out to be decent? Feels like all of them were left unfinished. Shame I was really looking forward to them.

Grip comes out November 6th for PC (out of Early Access) and consoles.

Wreckfest is already available for PC, 2019 for consoles. It's a good game.

Distance is out since September.

Horizon Chase Turbo is out and it's good.

The situation of 90s Arcade Racer is super frustrating, but other games are coming around fine.
 

rawhide

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,003
Don't Kickstarter backers at least deserve an explanation though?

My understanding is that the developer's not allowed to talk about the game anymore, as per whatever settlement was reached with the publisher. That publisher should definitely be telling people what's up but they're notoriously uncommunicative and come off as dickish on the rare occasions they do bother to talk to people.

I've heard a few conflicting things about the dev selling his game vs. being forced to hand it over to the publisher after a budget switcheroo. Maybe it'll all come out someday and my grandkids will be able to fill me in when they visit me on my deathbed.
 

IronicSonic

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,639
Well the game looked almost complete so I think something beside "normal development cycle" happened.

Maybe Nicalis can't release the game for some reason? Or just they have limited resources and they give priority to other projects? (Always)
 

1upsuper

Member
Jan 30, 2018
5,489
A few years ago it seemed like old school arcade racers were about to make a comeback through the indie scene. What happened? Did any of those come out? Did any of them turn out to be decent? Feels like all of them were left unfinished. Shame I was really looking forward to them.
Slipstream came out and is excellent.
 

Candescence

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,253
Nicalis being a shitshow as usual. They've really pissed away the goodwill they originally got from officially localizing Cave Story. It's the main reason I'm avoiding them like the plague when it comes to publishing, indies should stay the hell away from them until they have provably cleaned up their act.
 

rawhide

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,003
Nicalis being a shitshow as usual. They've really pissed away the goodwill they originally got from officially localizing Cave Story. It's the main reason I'm avoiding them like the plague when it comes to publishing, indies should stay the hell away from them until they have provably cleaned up their act.

They must have released half a dozen games on Switch since launch and most of those were generally well-received, at least relative to the way their products are usually received.
 

justiceiro

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
6,664
Yes, I have been trying to get attention about this issue, buy it seems nobody is willing to talk about it. The situation is so weird.

However, some backers were able to get a refund.
 

ILikeFeet

DF Deet Master
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
61,987
I suspect the game is stuck in some legal limbo since the original dev wanted to take the game back
 

tuffy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,527
As I recall, it was only speculation that '90s Arcade Racer had been rebranded as something else and not actually news.

But as for what happened to it, developer updates stopped right around the time the CPU cars were due to be implemented. I can only assume the developer hit a wall at that point, though there's no way to know for sure since there's been no news ever since.
 

rawhide

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,003
As I recall, it was only speculation that '90s Arcade Racer had been rebranded as something else and not actually news.

The publisher had been showing the game, or at least a game, with the new name at closed-door events, and that was years ago now. The publisher really ought to say something, anything at all, even if it's a completely different game.
 

ILikeFeet

DF Deet Master
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
61,987
Probably the rebranding is linked to this
Man, that would be scummy as all hell. Then again, there would probably be a legal battle over a move like that. But since it's one dude vs a company, the original dev might be better off cutting his losses. As for Nicalis, I can't possibly tell where they stand in all this. They're the ones who stand to gain from releasing the game.
 

Slam Tilt

Member
Jan 16, 2018
5,585
Grip comes out November 6th for PC (out of Early Access) and consoles.

Wreckfest is already available for PC, 2019 for consoles. It's a good game.

Distance is out since September.

Horizon Chase Turbo is out and it's good.

The situation of 90s Arcade Racer is super frustrating, but other games are coming around fine.
I believe there's also Trailblazers coming out soon.
 

MykonosFan

Member
Oct 25, 2017
844
Since the thread was bumped recently, I'll pop in and bump it again versus making a new thread.
Yesterday, on April Fool's Day, Nicalis tweeted this.


Hours later, they tweeted this.


They also tweeted some other things about other subjects, but as a backer of T90AR who has felt like they're yelling into the void for years with no response, naturally this one stuck out to me. As of yet, there's no clarification on whether this is the real thing, if it was a joke and all the tweets were real things, etc.

Whether the tweet is real and it's actually coming, or whether it's not real, this has struck me as a profoundly shitty way to break the silence on this game. This is a game that was funded on Kickstarter over 6 years ago, with its last update on that page from Nov. 1st, 2015. A game they've apparently rebranded, changed systems for, and have barely whispered its new name since. This just sucks. If there's some pending litigation preventing anyone from talking, I can understand when those details finally escape, but at the moment this has just opened the wound again.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/editorial/50186/nicalis-2019s-april-fool

This article came about as a result, obviously a tweet I made is in it as I got in contact with the author over this very issue (just as a disclaimer or w/e in case it's necessary), but it puts things nicely as a refresher or introduction for people who are unaware. This debacle hasn't been given much coverage so I wanted to include it as well.
 
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ILikeFeet

DF Deet Master
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
61,987
if the game was in some kind of legal limbo, I doubt it would get brought up. same with acknowledging a major wound in the company's image. I'm kinda poised to believe that it's actually coming now