I think he does, otherwise what is "verafied" supposed to even mean right
It's just that his attitude in posts is really hostile for some reason
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Why does everyone assume Read Dead Redemption 2 is a guaranteed to have massive sales?
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It's just that his attitude in posts is really hostile for some reason
Red dead isn't as much of a household name as gta is, but the Series is big enough that even if it doesn't launch as hugely as gta, it will still be a milestone title of the 8th generation
I just wonder what would've happened if the titled the game Red Dead R_ instead of red dead redemption 2. Because as it is the game is red dead 3
Rockstar and Sony going crazy advertising it in Japan
Tons of other examples here
https://kotaku.com/in-japan-rockstar-is-all-in-for-red-dead-redemption-2-1829808371
Tons of other examples here
https://kotaku.com/in-japan-rockstar-is-all-in-for-red-dead-redemption-2-1829808371
I'm not trying to be hostile. I'm sorry. Too much sarcasm because it feels like people are reading what I'm saying in the least generous way.
But yeah, I didn't literally say that people lost their jobs in the original post. But I explained what I meant in my elaboration. And so far, people have only responded to that with, "Actually, I know what you meant better than you."
This topic makes me really anxious as well. Feels like RDR2 will be the thing that publishers look to to decide how they are going to invest their money in the future. And I hope it succeeds to give companies like EA some faith once again.
No worries dude. I was never trying to say you don't know what you're talking about, you just had sort of a confrontational approach.
I can't speak for the whole community of era, but 11 million copies sold of anything; blu ray, CD album, video game what have you. I think most other posters who had a back and forth with you in this thread had the same mindset as me.
I didn't realize that for the bioshock team they were under a lot of pressure and even a little more than 10 million wouldn't cut it. In your first post the way you conveyed your point, you sounded like you were just downplaying bioshock infinite's sales, and without context that's why I was disagreeing with you
It could do a fourth of GTA V's numbers and be a smashing success.
It's an inevitability like a blizzard or pokemon game. Only question is how high is the ceiling
It's an inevitability like a blizzard or pokemon game. Only question is how high is the ceiling
That's fair. And I definitely see that now. I'll concede a point someone else made earlier: RDR2 being open-world makes it different than Bioshock Infinite. Open-world games are inherently more appealing to a wider audience.
Absolutely. And the first game that comes to mind is horizon zero Dawn. Released last year, new IP, exclusive, open world not even in a modern urban setting, and it sold like what, 6 million copies?
I'm really comparing apples to oranges with this but I have no doubt red dead 3 will sell upwards of 15 million
It might be the game that takes GTA V out of the charts. The first Red Dead Redemption was hugely popular on both PS3 and Xbox 360, the online especially.
I dunno about that. Rockstar's biggest game before gta5 was gta4, and I don't think redemption outsold that
Max Payne 3 was big commercial failure and so as LA Noire, both Rockstar games xD
People are starving for a new Rockstar game. GTAV feels like forever ago now. They have a pedigree amongst a lot of people and the game looks excellent. It's going to sell very well.
If Rockstar doesn't release a PC version next year, I bet that GTA V begins outselling Red Dead Redemption 2 by the end of 2019.
LA Noire was a Team Bondi game famously known for its ton of development issues.
True for Max Payne 3, kinda forgot about it and that's telling.
LA Noire had Rockstar name all over it during promotion marketing for that game
LA Noire was a new IP. MP3 was a sequel to a game that disappointed when it came to sales.
RDR2 is following a pretty successful RDR. Several industry insiders have stated that they are seeing strong preorders. BLOPS4 moved its release date to the start of October. If that is not enough evidence for folks in this thread then why even bother debating.
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Some consider Red Dead Redemption as the best game of last generation. This is part 2 of said game. Also, it's Rockstar.
Anyone with any sense wouldn't have this question to mull over. It's so obvious.
Spiderman got your attention, great, you're attuned to Sony 1st party hype, RD2 is going to bury that game in sales and everything else in its way.
Spiderman got your attention, great, you're attuned to Sony 1st party hype, RD2 is going to bury that game in sales and everything else in its way.
I find that it really doesn't as much as people here think. Rockstar is not a household name. Of course they're one of the more well known devs, but lots of times I'll have to clarify "the developers of GTA" if I'm ever talking about them to non-gaming friends.
Red dead redemption is considered one of the greatest games of ALL time
What marketing budget ?
It had 0 E3 appearances and they just stealth released videos online.
The marketing for this game is way below average.
There isnt some extraordinary marketing machine behind this game.
Being at E3 doesn't mean shit for Red Dead. Anyone that would go or watch that event already knows it exists. It's probably plastered on billboards and bus stops everywhere which is what the casual market sees.
I live in Montreal,Canada and I have not seen it yet.
Now Spiderman? That was a game that was plastered everywhere.
I know that the game will sell but it wont be because of marketing. It will be because its by the guys that make GTA.
GTAV had one trailer at E3 (Or was it gamescom) and had the biggest marketing campaign i have ever seen.
If you look in the preview threads you'll see buses, trains, artwork on walls with ads for this game all over the world. TV ads are probably starting this weekend and run for a month.
The marketing campaign for this game is absolutely massive.
Um... what? Rockstar games have some of the biggest marketing budgets out there, if not the highest. EVERYONE knows about a Rockstar Games product, they're events at this point.
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Rockstar and Sony going crazy advertising it in Japan
Tons of other examples here
https://kotaku.com/in-japan-rockstar-is-all-in-for-red-dead-redemption-2-1829808371
it's all over here in LA too
They are marketing RDR II all over the place.
https://kotaku.com/in-japan-rockstar-is-all-in-for-red-dead-redemption-2-1829808371
Late news on BBC radio 5 tonight has crunch work practices as one of its lead discussion items. They named Rockstar and didn't even specify they are a game developer.
Not a household name, but they have crossover recognition.
Last good western game I can recall is...RDR lol. Unless Call of Juarez: Gunslinger came out more recently.
Why market your game against 100 others, and regular huge announcements when you can release trailers, gameplay and information at times you aren't competing with anyone for the media's attention?
And the people who say 'the marketing isn't even happening', that evidence is anecdotal to you whereas numerous other posters have proven there's a huge marketing push for this game globally and given you picture evidence on this. You're still sat on a forum debating the game, you know it is coming out regardless - the marketing isn't necessarily for you, so either you're unintentionally ignoring it, lying, or perhaps there is literally 0 marketing happening in the bubble of Montreal.
We aren't saying it is the biggest marketing campaign ever, or even the smartest, just that it is clearly evident there is a large marketing campaign happening for the game.
You realize Spider-Man will end up with a 15 million LTD at the lowest right? How much do you think RDR2 will sell to "burry" it?
Because there doesn't need to be. There will be TV spots etc come release but otherwise, Red Dead Redemption II will sell because 1.) It's Rockstar and that name has weight even those who don't play many games. 2.) It can be described as GTA but with cowboys down to the game's design. 3.) Red Dead Redemption sold massively 4.) Red Dead Redemption was well received by critics and players to the point it's considered one of the best games of the last gen, even one of the best games period. 5.) 8 years since the last game, that's a long time between 2 games (especially after a successful game like RDR) and with that there will be a lot of anticipation.
Rockstar aren't like Ubisoft, Activision or EA and churn out sequels every year, or even new games in general which is why when they have one coming out there is a lot of attention on it simply because it exists.
I would bet my life this game selling bucket loads. Just look at CD Project Red now. Witcher 1 and 2 done good but after the Witcher 3 which came with high praise and sales, there is huge buzz surrounding Cyberpunk 2077 long before we even saw any gameplay.
Wanna take a bet that RDR2 will sell more than Spider-Man?
I think it'll clear 20m, how far past that I don't know.
Bio shock infinite sold 3.7m in its first month. 11m lifetime sales? What are you blabbing about?
Because the first game sold a ridiculous amount and it's the first non-port, current gen Rockstar game.
Like do you not understand just how powerful the Rockstar brand is?
Rockstar and Sony going crazy advertising it in Japan
Tons of other examples here
https://kotaku.com/in-japan-rockstar-is-all-in-for-red-dead-redemption-2-1829808371
Thw rice field one is clearly the winner!