I think he does, otherwise what is "verafied" supposed to even mean right
It's just that his attitude in posts is really hostile for some reason
I think he does, otherwise what is "verafied" supposed to even mean right
Red dead isn't as much of a household name as gta is, but the Series is big enough that even if it doesn't launch as hugely as gta, it will still be a milestone title of the 8th generationBy all accounts it looks like it's going to be a huge sales success and a critical darling. What reason do you have to *not* think it's going to be a huge success?
I think he does, otherwise what is "verafied" supposed to even mean right
It's just that his attitude in posts is really hostile for some reason
No worries dude. I was never trying to say you don't know what you're talking about, you just had sort of a confrontational approach.I'm not trying to be hostile. I'm sorry. Too much sarcasm because it feels like people are reading what I'm saying in the least generous way.
But yeah, I didn't literally say that people lost their jobs in the original post. But I explained what I meant in my elaboration. And so far, people have only responded to that with, "Actually, I know what you meant better than you."
This topic makes me really anxious as well. Feels like RDR2 will be the thing that publishers look to to decide how they are going to invest their money in the future. And I hope it succeeds to give companies like EA some faith once again.
No worries dude. I was never trying to say you don't know what you're talking about, you just had sort of a confrontational approach.
I can't speak for the whole community of era, but 11 million copies sold of anything; blu ray, CD album, video game what have you. I think most other posters who had a back and forth with you in this thread had the same mindset as me.
I didn't realize that for the bioshock team they were under a lot of pressure and even a little more than 10 million wouldn't cut it. In your first post the way you conveyed your point, you sounded like you were just downplaying bioshock infinite's sales, and without context that's why I was disagreeing with you
Absolutely. And the first game that comes to mind is horizon zero Dawn. Released last year, new IP, exclusive, open world not even in a modern urban setting, and it sold like what, 6 million copies?That's fair. And I definitely see that now. I'll concede a point someone else made earlier: RDR2 being open-world makes it different than Bioshock Infinite. Open-world games are inherently more appealing to a wider audience.
I dunno about that. Rockstar's biggest game before gta5 was gta4, and I don't think redemption outsold thatIt might be the game that takes GTA V out of the charts. The first Red Dead Redemption was hugely popular on both PS3 and Xbox 360, the online especially.
Max Payne 3 was big commercial failure and so as LA Noire, both Rockstar games xDit's a rockstar game
the first one was a massive success
what more do you want
It might be the game that takes GTA V out of the charts. The first Red Dead Redemption was hugely popular on both PS3 and Xbox 360, the online especially.
Max Payne 3 was big commercial failure and so as LA Noire, both Rockstar games xD
LA Noire had Rockstar name all over it during promotion marketing for that gameLA Noire was a Team Bondi game famously known for its ton of development issues.
True for Max Payne 3, kinda forgot about it and that's telling.
LA Noire had Rockstar name all over it during promotion marketing for that game
I find that it really doesn't as much as people here think. Rockstar is not a household name. Of course they're one of the more well known devs, but lots of times I'll have to clarify "the developers of GTA" if I'm ever talking about them to non-gaming friends.Those are fairly good inductive arguments, though. All Rockstar's recent games have been huge successes, and the Rockstar brand transcends gaming circles. It will almost certainly get incredible review scores.
It's also an open world RPG with stellar production values, and its predecessor was a critical and commercial success. It also will have MP based on the ridiculously successful GTA Online.
Further, its setting - the dying light of the Wild West - isn't exactly ubiquitous in current games. So it's not competing against anything on that level.
Red dead redemption is considered one of the greatest games of ALL timeSome consider Red Dead Redemption as the best game of last generation. This is part 2 of said game. Also, it's Rockstar.
It's made by the most famous devs on earth and it'll have a bigger marketing budget than most AAA games have as a complete budget.
What marketing budget ?
It had 0 E3 appearances and they just stealth released videos online.
The marketing for this game is way below average.
There isnt some extraordinary marketing machine behind this game.
Being at E3 doesn't mean shit for Red Dead. Anyone that would go or watch that event already knows it exists. It's probably plastered on billboards and bus stops everywhere which is what the casual market sees.
GTAV had one trailer at E3 (Or was it gamescom) and had the biggest marketing campaign i have ever seen.What marketing budget ?
It had 0 E3 appearances and they just stealth released videos online.
The marketing for this game is way below average.
There isnt some extraordinary marketing machine behind this game.
What marketing budget ?
It had 0 E3 appearances and they just stealth released videos online.
The marketing for this game is way below average.
There isnt some extraordinary marketing machine behind this game.
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Rockstar and Sony going crazy advertising it in Japan
Tons of other examples here
https://kotaku.com/in-japan-rockstar-is-all-in-for-red-dead-redemption-2-1829808371
What marketing budget ?
It had 0 E3 appearances and they just stealth released videos online.
The marketing for this game is way below average.
There isnt some extraordinary marketing machine behind this game.
Late news on BBC radio 5 tonight has crunch work practices as one of its lead discussion items. They named Rockstar and didn't even specify they are a game developer.I find that it really doesn't as much as people here think. Rockstar is not a household name. Of course they're one of the more well known devs, but lots of times I'll have to clarify "the developers of GTA" if I'm ever talking about them to non-gaming friends.
Last good western game I can recall is...RDR lol. Unless Call of Juarez: Gunslinger came out more recently.Trying to think of a good western game that has come out since Westworld's runaway popularity. I'm probably missing something obvious, but...little help?
What marketing budget ?
It had 0 E3 appearances and they just stealth released videos online.
The marketing for this game is way below average.
There isnt some extraordinary marketing machine behind this game.
You realize Spider-Man will end up with a 15 million LTD at the lowest right? How much do you think RDR2 will sell to "burry" it?Anyone with any sense wouldn't have this question to mull over. It's so obvious.
Spiderman got your attention, great, you're attuned to Sony 1st party hype, RD2 is going to bury that game in sales and everything else in its way.
What marketing budget ?
It had 0 E3 appearances and they just stealth released videos online.
The marketing for this game is way below average.
There isnt some extraordinary marketing machine behind this game.
You realize Spider-Man will end up with a 15 million LTD at the lowest right? How much do you think RDR2 will sell to "burry" it?
Bio shock infinite sold 3.7m in its first month. 11m lifetime sales? What are you blabbing about?Same reason we assumed BioShock Infinite would have massive sales ... oh, wait.
Because the first game sold a ridiculous amount and it's the first non-port, current gen Rockstar game.It's not really a take. Just wondering why people talk about the game's sales like they're already a forgone conclusion.
Rockstar and Sony going crazy advertising it in Japan
Tons of other examples here
https://kotaku.com/in-japan-rockstar-is-all-in-for-red-dead-redemption-2-1829808371