People also thought for sure it was getting delayed again because nothing was shown just a few months back, despite GTA marketing waiting until shortly before release to start doing work
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Why does everyone assume Read Dead Redemption 2 is a guaranteed to have massive sales?
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People also thought for sure it was getting delayed again because nothing was shown just a few months back, despite GTA marketing waiting until shortly before release to start doing work
Yes.
Grand Theft Auto is consistently one of the best selling franchises of all time, Red Dead Redemption is Grand Theft Auto in the wild, wild west. It's not rocket science.
Sorry if that was snarky, but it is pretty straightforward.
And yet they're taking another year off, presumably because even with multiple massive teams they can't churn out more than two games that big in a 4 year span.
I think the real marketing hasn't even begun yet. However, I saw a promoted Twitter or Instagram post every second day or so for the last couple of months. More marketing than I see for many other games so far in advance.
I am saying that people can get fatigued on a series with such short turnaround times, that is where the suspicion can come from.
And again, there has been plenty, PLENTY, of suspicion around RDR2.
Because of pre-orders, sales of the first game and because it's Rockstar with it's first game of this gen.
That's 2k, has nothing to do with Rockstar.
That's 2k, has nothing to do with Rockstar.
In my measly town alone they're completely taking over the entire outside (4 massive windows total) of the games shop, Sony/Microsoft only sprung for a single window each for Uncharted and Gears, EA doesn't even do that for Fifa or Star Wars. After launch if they come out and say it has the largest marketing budget for any videogame ever I wouldn't hesitate to agree, with that and the Rockstar brand name it doesn't even need to be good to pass 10m.
It's going to sell a lot of copies, Rockstar games are in the mainstream, GTA V is still selling, it's still up there on the best selling lists.
never saw suspicion around it.
The gamer fatigue is just psychology. It don't have to affect the quality of a game.
Its kinda simple and yet looks silly to just ask imo.
Its Rockstar and the first one was a sucess. They would have to try pretty hard to blow this one.
Its Rockstar and the first one was a sucess. They would have to try pretty hard to blow this one.
Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
It doesn't affect the game, but the way people view a game.
Great. Glad you like the game, that doesn't disqualify people having criticisms about the series.
It's Rockstar. Their games don't need marketing, they ARE the marketing. I mean, huge open world where you can simulate some kind of life adventure? That thing sells.
I also think that 90% of buyers won't play it for more than one hour, but that's my opinion based on the behavior of casual people I know. I also don't like their games since they tend to lack anything funny to do in their maps.
I also think that 90% of buyers won't play it for more than one hour, but that's my opinion based on the behavior of casual people I know. I also don't like their games since they tend to lack anything funny to do in their maps.
An hour may be a low estimate, but usually 30% of people finish a game that they buy. Now that stat is just something I've seen with the trophy percentage on PS4, and what I've gathered from talking to friends who play more casually it the online part of the game that is the most attractive.
You could get a summer intern at any media production company to slap together 30 seconds of b-roll prerelease footage, toss in some random dialogue clips about Arthur and his live of crime and it would be a compelling as shit TV commercial that would kill during any primetime show or sports broadcast. It looks *amazing* and even if it didn't have all the Rockstar hype and pedigree it would be an easy sell.
Yeah I'm probably exaggerating, but thinking at how many copies this game will probably sell, I can see core players being a very small percent of it.
ERA is not representitive of how certain games will sell. Everyone is different.
Having said that, this game won't fly under the radar as much as RDR 1 did. It will sell a lot. (Not as much as GTA V though)
Having said that, this game won't fly under the radar as much as RDR 1 did. It will sell a lot. (Not as much as GTA V though)
It's a Rockstar game is pretty much the size of it.
No one knew how well RDR would do back in 2010 but it did phenomenally well at the time, I've no idea if it did similar numbers to GTA IV or not though.
I think Rockstar's only real sales disappointment in recent years was Max Payne 3 but I've no idea how many that sold.
No one knew how well RDR would do back in 2010 but it did phenomenally well at the time, I've no idea if it did similar numbers to GTA IV or not though.
I think Rockstar's only real sales disappointment in recent years was Max Payne 3 but I've no idea how many that sold.
It's going to be very interesting to see the percentages on the different trophies when the dust has settled, the same for Assassins Creed Odyssey. I'm wondering if there is a point when games get's to big, I mean would a developer be happy with like 5-10% of people finishing their game? That only so few people have played the story, experienced what they have worked so hard to make?
It's code for "I don't leave my house, don't watch tv and use ad-bloc".
If they released a Pokémon game every 8 years it would be wayyyy more than 15 million hahah
So if R* give a game during a year, we need to stop everything else and give them the GOTY title already? Wtf..
I understand that RDR2 is awesome.
But at this point i'm starting to believe that even if BOTW would came out on switch the same day it would be in shadow , compared to RDR2
Why does this place have a vocal set of people who want to put down a thing that everyone else loves or has great faith in.
I think this place attracts people with psychological issues where they have to not like or put down what the majority like.
I think this place attracts people with psychological issues where they have to not like or put down what the majority like.
The reason Red Dead will never compete with GTA sales is because it's a western
I predict RDR2 to be a bit better than RDR sales, but tbh, if you take 7 years to make a game, 15-20 million sales is pretty mediocre :P
I mean you're just describing 90% of the internet where people like to feel intellectually superior by being contrarian
True. There does seem to be quite a bit of smoke surrounding R* here.
I dont remember this kind of smoke with witcher 3 or god of war etc
And that's why Irrational Games is still around and making games to this day.
It will sell very, very well but nowhere near GTA V numbers. I'm guessing 20 million tops.
Cowboys have limited appeal vs a modern city with automatic weapons and sports cars.
Cowboys have limited appeal vs a modern city with automatic weapons and sports cars.
Because Ken Levine want to work on smaller project with smaller team? This thing is well documented. I'm not sure what's your argument was this whole thread.
2K is still going to make Bioshock games because it's a successful IP and Ghost Story Studio(Formerly Irrational) still exist and going to make smaller games because Levine was burned out of big games development cycle.
https://www.ghoststorygames.com/
And here's a good read regarding the last few months of Irrational before it transitioned back to a smaller 25 man team led by Levine: https://www.polygon.com/2014/3/6/5474722/why-did-irrational-close-bioshock-infinite
https://www.theverge.com/2014/2/18/5422846/bioshock-studio-irrational-games-closing
Irrational had its own things going on and the studio didn't downsize purely because 'the game only sold 11+ million'.
Regardless what has that got to do with this? The question is about sales, 11+ million sales is a very good number. Whatever happened at the studio, whether that be long drawn out development or a unique culture or a studio head's disenchantment at AAA development... the list goes on, isn't particularly relevant to if 11+million sales is good or not. And Infinite is a very different beast to Red Dead Redemption 2, which has both had a longer development and hundreds more staff on the project.
Regarding your tweet of 'if RDR2 sells 12 million by 2021 will it be a success?' - I mean that has got literally nothing to do with this, you've somehow created your own mini narrative. But I'm happy to firmly believe the game will sell more than 12 million copies by 2021, probably quite handily. Plus they have the MTX of Red Dead Online to bring in more money.
What a bad example.