Yep, those are the things that really drew me to appreciate the game so much, and I have to agree that most games feel so behind on this. The closest analog I can think of is Hellblade, which was my favorite game last year.
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LTTP: Uncharted 4 might be the most impressive game I've ever played.
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Excelent shooting mechanics, good IA and excelent maps with options to creat your own Indiana Jones movie moment.
Terrible pacing. Man, too much walking.
Terrible pacing. Man, too much walking.
Honestly, I love every part of this game. The pacing didn't even bother me. I agree with you OP. Lost Legacy is such a great experience as well in a smaller package.
I loved all of it, the pacing never really bothered me, the only bit I would change is that there was one point on a ruined ship where there were multiple guys with miniguns, I would have reduced their number by one and that would have been it!
Fantastic game.
Fantastic game.
Uncharted 4 was the most impressive and then I played FFXV and that was the most impressive and then I played Horizon Zero Dawn and Zelda BOTW and those were the most impressive... Then I played God of war and that was the most impressive and then I played Spider Man and that was the most impressive and then I played AC Odyssey and that become VERY Impressive, and then RDR2 comes out soon and I think that will be most impressive and then Kingdom Hearts 3 comes out soon and I am sure that will be most impressive.
Did you see the difference between Shadow of tomb raider scores on ps4 and Xbox?
People got angry when others argued that maybe some outlets were more critical because they compared the Shadow of Tomb Raider with Sony exclusives.
Sorry, but to me it was the worst Uncharted and a snoozefest to playthrough. I can't even bring myself to replay it. And, while LL was a minor improvement it still suffers from the same issues. The series peaked with UC2.
To quote a certain OW character: "You're easily impressed."
To quote a certain OW character: "You're easily impressed."
Wat? Don't smack your controller man, all you had to do was shake it a little bit.
Hellblade is very good as well yeah, the difference here is that there are more chatacters interacting with each other and everyone feels like a real person while in Hellblade is mostly just Senua. It's still impressive of course.
Love the details, who animates a tiny skip?
Wow, I played through all of that game and I never knew you could do a vaulting kick. That's Uncharted's animation for ya.
Someone pointed out in a thread recently that a lot of the game's pacing issues came from a stamina system that had to be scrapped during development and that they didn't have time to correct the level design, which was elongated due to the aforementioned stamina system.
Makes a lot of sense, especially in light of Lost Legacy's comparatively super-tight level design.
Makes a lot of sense, especially in light of Lost Legacy's comparatively super-tight level design.
This was an amazing game. Glad you're enjoying it OP. It also does the best job of telling two stories at once, between the current saga and what happened with the treasure they're hunting, and accounting for how those tales intertwine. It's an epic adventure.
I didn't play Shadow because I played 2013 and didn't like much just because of what I said, the stories and characters are so bad that I couldn't relate the slightest. Coreographies were bland as well so I wouldn't be surprised if the sequels didn't improve much and from what I've read, they didn't, at least not in those aspects.
I felt the same way. Stunning from top to bottom. Not just the graphical wow factor of the environments, but the way all the pieces of gameplay click together, every aspect of the design and presentation, and the emotional expressiveness and nuance of the characters. The couch scene alone blew me away.
Prior to playing Uncharted 4, I marathoned the first three games for the first time. The leap in quality from 3 to 4 was simply unbelievable. As though the studio gained 10 years of experience and a hell of a lot of fresh talent in a snap.
Prior to playing Uncharted 4, I marathoned the first three games for the first time. The leap in quality from 3 to 4 was simply unbelievable. As though the studio gained 10 years of experience and a hell of a lot of fresh talent in a snap.
I thought the climbing and swinging in U4 was awesome. It was not full of it
The swinging was a great addition. Loved it. But the climbing traversal is insanely boring otherwise imo.
When you finally get towards the end of the game and are having to swing between multiple grapple points without landing in between, it just feels like a rush. Loved it.
Amazing game and one of the best enders to a storyline I've played. I feel content with the story and how it ended. Rest easy Nathan Drake.
The are many times that this game made me think "holy shit I was right, ND have done the impossible with 1.84tflops and it looks beyond next gen and cgi like"
it also does a good job of not taking away from the memorable climbs of the previous 3 games before it. I think the environments and scale were my favorite in 4 though.
Yea it's an amazing game that gets some undeserved hate on this board in my opinion.
It'a definitely the best Uncharte game for sure. And yes better than 2 (2 drags on for too long)
It'a definitely the best Uncharte game for sure. And yes better than 2 (2 drags on for too long)
UC4 is easily one of the best this gen. I'm going to replay it soon, and I only do that with a select few titles.
My favourite Uncharted. I love the slower pace and more intimate story in this one. Hate the brother though.
The emphasis on puzzles and platforming was a huge mistake IMO. Climbing has always been boring and Naughty Dog knew this in previous games. Thats why they leaned on combat so much. In this one they try to balance it but it just doesnt work. Its a shame too because combat is at its absolute best in U4.
I rewatch those scenes on occasion and yeah, it really feels like Naughty Dog are just a step above from anyone else.
its a hell of a game
the true sequel to the heights of U2 imo
absolutely breathtaking at times
This was like being able to take a piece of concept art, jump into it Mary-Poppins style, and explore all around.
I grew up with Uncharted and aside from the third game, all the rest felt like it came along at the right time for the age and experiences I was and had, respectively. Uncharted 4, bar TLL, is one of my favourite narrative driven TP games of all time. Personally, I never had an issue with the pacing because this time, the story was far more introspective about Drake's character, his place in the world in the face of change and his relationships. I think ND (as the people in charge got older) understood that Nate and the medium in general could do with a more mature project that is more than levity filled action romp and that does not involve Nathan being a mass murderer all the time. I guess for those folks, the new Tomb Raider can fill that void. In summary, U4, in some ways is an allegory to people and the changes that face by way of progression of time and circumstance.
Setting aside the auditory and visual technological marvel the game was, for me, an even greater achievement was the iteration of the dialog system first seen in The Last of Us. The fact that there were both player activated context sensitive dialogues and expository ones delivered out of cutscenes that could be interrupted and resumed really added to the sense of immersion and interpersonal connections. And lest we forget, even the latest God of War utilized this system.
My more memorable memories were of the quieter moments. After all the cutscenes and the bombastic set pieces, there are two instances, I cherish most:
and
Setting aside the auditory and visual technological marvel the game was, for me, an even greater achievement was the iteration of the dialog system first seen in The Last of Us. The fact that there were both player activated context sensitive dialogues and expository ones delivered out of cutscenes that could be interrupted and resumed really added to the sense of immersion and interpersonal connections. And lest we forget, even the latest God of War utilized this system.
My more memorable memories were of the quieter moments. After all the cutscenes and the bombastic set pieces, there are two instances, I cherish most:
and
Yeah it's one of my favorite single player campaigns.
It makes me really excited for TLOU2. They did an excellent job in UC4 with characters and performances. It felt like they took what I liked about Left Behind and fused it with an action packed Uncharted campaign.
It works for me. Crazy hyped for TLOU2.
It makes me really excited for TLOU2. They did an excellent job in UC4 with characters and performances. It felt like they took what I liked about Left Behind and fused it with an action packed Uncharted campaign.
It works for me. Crazy hyped for TLOU2.
The way action scenes emerge in that game is amazing.
When you find yourself suddenly combining the vocabulary of moves and traversal techniques you've built over the game to start rope swinging and dodging enemy fire, dropping down on enemies below and then ducking into cover... it's really something else.
They did an amazing job with Uncharted 4. I loved that game.
When you find yourself suddenly combining the vocabulary of moves and traversal techniques you've built over the game to start rope swinging and dodging enemy fire, dropping down on enemies below and then ducking into cover... it's really something else.
They did an amazing job with Uncharted 4. I loved that game.
Uncharted 4 literally feels like a painting at many places. I was in awe of its sensational set pieces,
I felt like I was exploring a jaw dropping painting come to life.
And when the environments are this stunning and the characters this realistic, who cares if you are not doing a million things at once while climbing? Can't we just soak in the stunning environment while traversing through it? Do we constantly need some busy work to keep us occupied with stamina bars, meaningless xp collection and intrusive UI prompts at every step of the way?
To me the pacing was perfect and the down moments were a great contrast to the kinetic high energy action sequences that preceded the quiet exploratory moments.
I felt like I was exploring a jaw dropping painting come to life.
And when the environments are this stunning and the characters this realistic, who cares if you are not doing a million things at once while climbing? Can't we just soak in the stunning environment while traversing through it? Do we constantly need some busy work to keep us occupied with stamina bars, meaningless xp collection and intrusive UI prompts at every step of the way?
To me the pacing was perfect and the down moments were a great contrast to the kinetic high energy action sequences that preceded the quiet exploratory moments.
It's an amazing game, you can't play anywhere else.
I'm so happy Sony supports heavy story driven games.
I'm so happy Sony supports heavy story driven games.
Holy Helll, graphics still blows my mind. can't even imagine what Naughty Gods could do with PS5 specs.its a hell of a game
the true sequel to the heights of U2 imo
absolutely breathtaking at times
Uncharted 4 is easily the best in the series and it's not even remotely close. Uncharted 1-3 are mediocre games in comparison.
It's a very good game, but it could've been a lot better if it'd had good pacing and less climbing.
Lost Legacy was a better game.
Lost Legacy was a better game.
Oxymoron.
Uncharted, games I very much feel are known for and live by their cinematic game pacing(tm) and while UC4 employed certain textual story techniques that made it a better told story, I think cinematically, storyboardedly, pacingly it's an inferior game, and also gameplay is just boring by contrast to 2 and 3 or even 1 with sparse encounters and cannibalized stealth gameplay from the Latest Trends(TM). Grappling hook was good though.
But real talk, it's kinda like the worst Uncharted except for the most obvious improvements (it looks better graphically and the animation is animazing)
