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Warren Releases DNA Results (Updated OP)
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Abby D. Phillip @abbydphillip
Trump denies that he ever said he'd donate $1 million to charity if she took a DNA test and it showed she had Native American ancestry. The quote: "I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian"
This is exactly why democrats need to stop acting like the sky is falling every five seconds. This was a good way to get ahead of the narrative IF she does decide to run in 2020, and call Trump on his bullshit. She never claimed how much ancestry she had, just that she had Native American ancestry in her family tree. That's it. This affirms that.
This is amazing honestly. Finally someone actually talking about the plight of Natives instead of just mocking it.
Also, people saying it's too low to mention should watch the video. Looks like she grew up in the life, and while with was the OK white Cherokee life, she still is more aware of the issues than most.
Trump fucking over a charity yet again. What a surprise. He stole from cancer kids ffs, and he once claimed he had paid millions to veterans charities then it turned out he hadn't paid a dime, and now he's refusing to pay the $1M he said he would. He is the worst human being. Not only that, he brags constantly about how much money he has (which ironically, $413M was gifted to him), yet he refuses to give even a single dollar to charity.
Here is his promise to pay up, the first couple of minutes is him attacking her background and then his promise to pay. As usual, he denies what he is on video and audio record doing.
Here is his promise to pay up, the first couple of minutes is him attacking her background and then his promise to pay. As usual, he denies what he is on video and audio record doing.
That quote doesn't sound like he said it with "paid for by Trump." Did Trump himself ever make that claim?
If this is all it takes to for people to turn on a candidate that we know with near subatomic precision would be orders of magnitude better than Trump for the nation and the world, then there's no one who would fare any better. Because the problem isn't with the candidate it's with a citizenry who has apparently lost almost all ability to vote in its best interests and now actively enables the kind of vicious double standard that people like Trump rely on.
This story (in a broad sense, and in response to Warren doing this) should obviously be denigrating Trump for not keeping his word.
Instead, in this version of America, it's about how Warren looks weak for confirming she told the truth.
Yes, or as much as 1/32. Considering she said her great-great-great grandmother was native American, and her great-great-great grandmother listed Cherokee on her marriage application, it would line up.
I find some of the reactions in this thread bizarre. She's using a popular right-wing narrative as an opportunity to call out Republicans on their casual racism, go in-depth on her family background, and create the space for some pretty good PR. Like, this is a pretty good campaign video:
If political trolls are going to claim you've lied about your ancestry to advance your career, you may as well have fun with it.
Also, if you happen to be interested in your president being a decent person, the transparency she's showcased here doesn't hurt her case at all.
If political trolls are going to claim you've lied about your ancestry to advance your career, you may as well have fun with it.
Also, if you happen to be interested in your president being a decent person, the transparency she's showcased here doesn't hurt her case at all.
Yeah, he is. Still this is the most accurate comment on a current situation to ever leave his mouth.
Has the fucking clip of him saying what he is lying about never saying.
I don't really have a problem with her taking this angle, but I wish we could get through midterms before people start running for president.
Yeah honestly the video should be in the OP so people can see the hand she's actually playing. Calling Trump on his bullshit. It's not like she just did a press release and proudly announced the results.
Why do Democrats keep giving them ammo
I mean they weaponize mustard but still
You dont need to make it this easy
I mean they weaponize mustard but still
You dont need to make it this easy
Dems need to be much more guarded. You got Michelle raving about Bush, Hillary saying what Bill did wasn't an abuse of power and now Warren foolishly publicly announcing she has a minuscule native heritage. Midterms are close and Trump commits unforced errors all the time all Dem notables have to do is chill out and they got this. I don't know if it's a hubris or what but they seem overconfident and are making plays and statements that don't need to be made imo.
Hmm after reading more of the thread Im actually feeling better about her getting ahead of this
Hell of a risk but maybe ultimately a good play
Hell of a risk but maybe ultimately a good play
It's not going to work. I'm willing to bet that Republicans bring this stuff back up around election season. I really wish she didn't release this.
I want to note that the only reason this spin works is because of the Globe's headline. It's weaponized under the assumption that most people aren't going to read past this tweet.
Because the actual test results, to a Trump supporter, basically validate Trump calling her out. Fully expect this going forward:
"It seems lying Warren is not even close to be called Pocahontas! Sad and pathetic! 1/512 might as well mean I am Native American too."
(Granted, they were already doing this and were going to do it anyway, but the ammo doesn't help.)
I say good on her for defending herself, she should have done this sooner.
And she will be like "I don't back down from a challenge. Btw, my charity still doesn't have a million dollars."
They certainly will but I suspect this move has taken out a lot of sting from it.
Better get ahead on this than not. Now she's got Trump sweating over the $1m, any video showing him promising to put up?
oh here it is
WEGOTHIM.GIF
oh here it is
WEGOTHIM.GIF
The actual video that should be the focus of this thread as video of him saying it yes. The point of taking the test was to own him.
Some of yall bedwet more than anyone lol.
Honestly. She should get ahead of it. It's something she claimed and it's something Trump continually mocks her for. Trump started birtherism and his base STILL doesn't believe Obama was born here even after proof.
She can use this as a way to run on transparency. Which she is already doing actually.
Honestly. She should get ahead of it. It's something she claimed and it's something Trump continually mocks her for. Trump started birtherism and his base STILL doesn't believe Obama was born here even after proof.
She can use this as a way to run on transparency. Which she is already doing actually.
Trump's out would be that 1/32 isn't enough to get recognized as native American (I think) with the tribe her ancestor said she was from. Doubt Trump even thinks about that though, and just refuses it ever happened, fake news, etc.
Trump doesn't let facts get in the way of a good personal attack. Debunking the basis for his attacks have no effect. Warren is too earnest. She would not get enough 2016 Trump voters to switch.
I think it was a good idea to get out ahead of the 2020 election and do it now. I doubt people will care once midterms get here and this should at least stop the talk about her ancestry from the left (it won't stop the right) She isn't my first choice but I don't get the hate for this. Either she gets made fun of for not taking a DNA test or she takes a DNA test, gets made fun of, and gets to call out Trump for lying about the $1 million. The slightly better of two bad options
In my opinion, this just played into Trumps hands, Trump is a troll, in the worst thing you can do to a Troll is to play his game on trying to disprove his words, She is feeding the Troll, The only people who cared about this was the same people who will vote for Trump and follow Trump no matter what, and coming up with the result saying that she is 1/35th native american is just an invitation on getting ridiculed even further by the Trolls. Trump threw some shit in the air, Warren caught it, and when Warren came and show Trump here is your shit, Trump is saying I dont care about that.
At the end the only thing that this is doing is (only judging by some responses here) is just get a "Why?" response from the people who might actually vote for you.
At the end the only thing that this is doing is (only judging by some responses here) is just get a "Why?" response from the people who might actually vote for you.
Of course Trump won't do this and these results aren't even to appease him or his base. It's to get ahead if she decides to run. IT's going to come up get it out and let Americans digest and shit it out now. They won't care by Wednesday.
And like the tweet implies. Run on Transparency. We all say dems suck at messaging. Here's a chance for them to try and control it.
I'm 3/512' s which gets me some benefits from the Indian nation where I live.
Im registered and can vote in Indian elections etc etc
Im registered and can vote in Indian elections etc etc
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Yeah, he can easily get out of that.
1. In that video, he's talking about a hypothetical situation.
2. He can say 1/32 isn't considered Indian and with people (mainly white) claiming that they're Asian, black, etc becuase they're "1/16th" being the butt of jokes for almost a decade now, this can hurt Warren.
Calling him on his bullshit has no effect sadly:(
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Facts don't matter no more
Trump is a troll yes. But he's going to make up or say shit regardless. This test really wasn't to appease him. It's to get ahead of the issues if she runs in 2020. Because it'll come up. It's something she claimed. and if she refused a test that creates more doubt in all voters minds.
Not with those results she shouldn't have. These kinds of results should not have been released because they are not powerful enough imo.