have not play the new assassin creed yet, so i cant really speak for Kassandra. As for Alloy, I thought she was great. I really like her no bullshit attitude, she just wants to get to the button of the truth. Characters like that appeal to me.
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Aloy vs Kassandra
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Yep. Aloy isn't a stereotypical asshole quipster like Kassandra is, but that doesn't mean she has no personality.
I just finished Horizon a few hours ago, the problem with Aloy is not that she has no personality, because she does, she is snarky and confident to the point of being cocky, the main issue is that she has no character progression, she ends in the same place she started, none of the events of the story change her in any meaningful way, she is rarely challenged by the world around her, she is a super hero and a very vanilla one at that. I guess those dialogue options you get very rarely inject some character into personality but just not enough. It doesn't help she gets overshadowed by characters that you only see through logs and old videos, as their story is much more interesting than Aloys. But hey at least she has a good design.
I have not played AC Odyssey, just watched very few clips of Kassandra, and while she is not exactly a ground breaking character at least she is fun to watch interact and dick around with other characters, looking forward to play as her down the line.
I have not played AC Odyssey, just watched very few clips of Kassandra, and while she is not exactly a ground breaking character at least she is fun to watch interact and dick around with other characters, looking forward to play as her down the line.
She's more fleshed out than Aloy though. They share the same scenes but each actor was given free reign to express themselves. Kassandra carries herself differently tha Alexios despite them saying the same things.
The micro expressions, voice tone, and body language add a lot
I don't know, this actually makes me wonder if they're effectively animated using the same mo-capping or tracing. It's... exactly the same.
In fact, I'd say Alexios sells the "... really?" gaze after the knife hits the post better. Kassandra looks vacuous.
You sincerely need to consider glasses if you're looking at those scenes and wondering if it's the same mocap data. What is it about this game that makes people making iIMC tier bad takes. How does one look at this:
and then type this:
The actors are literally doing different things.
You sincerely need to consider glasses if you're looking at those scenes and wondering if it's the same mocap data. What is it about this game that makes people making iIMC tier bad takes. How does one look at this:
and then type this:
The actors are literally doing different things.
alexios doing the "balls" movement and that fucking face he does looks better than kassandra imho
i'm too lazy to crop alexios face right now to answer you
so imagine a gif with just alexios face as my answer to you
I recommend watching the vids as the majority of people prefer Kassandra because of her delivery and body language. The fact that we're talking about this in the first place is praiseworthy, because I quite genuinely can't think of another RPG that does this. As a Ubi dev said four years ago, "double the animation," (for scenes using performance capture at least)
i'm playing with kassandra, alexios VA is goofy as fuck so i dont regret it
i'm talking about that one scene in particular, the one you posted gifs for - alexios is funnier to me. in one scene. that's all. no need to get all hot and bothered, i'm not here to take your kassandras away
I'm not getting hot and bothered lol. That post is less about the Kassandra and more about how they put in the work.
I saw that Assassins Creed character and thought 'isn't that just Alloy?'
The game industry really suffers from this.. Remember how many games had a main character indistinguishable from Nathan Drake when uncharted proves popular?
The game industry really suffers from this.. Remember how many games had a main character indistinguishable from Nathan Drake when uncharted proves popular?
I think you misread my post, I was referring to two gifs. I know they've used different animations for the two characters, that's why the spears and knife scene was surprising.
I've seen a few hours of Odyssey gameplay over the weekend and honestly I don't think Kassandra is particuarly better than Alexios. In fact, he has a stronger personality from what I've seen, which is commendable in a way - she's a run of the mill badass, but he has a stronger goofy side. He makes me think of a greek Bradley Cooper.
Anyways, you seem to be getting hot and bothered about this issue, and I think you care about all of this a lot more than I do, so I'll leave it at that. I'll play Odyssey eventually and I'll pick Kassandra for sure (since the writer of the game has been pretty outspoken about her being the "canon" choice), and I'll form my own opinion. It's going to be super nice to have one :P .
Damn. You guys Savage jeez.
Aloy is also a good character imo.
But Kassandra wins imo. Evie and Kassandra both more pretty, badass and well acted than Aloy.
Also Kassandra perfect for wonder woman video game role. Aloy perfect for maybe super girl role?
Even in those two gifs the actors are doing very different things. Like, they literally look in opposite directions as they say their dialogue and react to the knife throw in completely different ways, Kassandra doesn't even look at it.
I'll take this over astroturfing accusations.
The "classically attractive" part and Aloy is ugly part is straight sexism.
Nah, that's bullshit. People have the right to be passionate and even partisan about things they love. Open a thread about Matsuno or Vagrant Story and you'll think I'm getting paid 5$ per word.
On point. Very true. People equate not liking something to meaning it's definitively bad.
Not everything is opinion here. He ask who from the two chars are better, not for shiting someone preference. Even shinobi need to come here and cut some members wings.
You ignored the post of one gentleman here who said Kass is created by focus testers. What do you have to say about that? Is that not sexism?
Is it coz she doesn't have big boobs nd all?
For me both are good protoganist but I'm surprised to see these extreme negative comments .
I didn't ignore that post.
And no, it wasn't sexism. It was referring to the supposed care the writers put into the character. Implying that one dev cared while the other didn't. Despite both receiving more or less the same amount of thought and both being AAA that obviously went through iteration and focus testing.
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Ally, Kassandra is built upon your decisions so it's an unfair comparison. If you were to see Kassandra do what you didn't want, you'd probably feel less connected
After playing some quest with Kassandra, oh boy, she surely like to bang without any repercusion at all on the main storyline so far
Really? The bow combat In Horizon is filled with tactics and strategy and gameplay wise is very sound, yes, but the act of pulling the bow itself in Horizon felt so... lacking. It doesn't seem like Alloy is puling the string of the bow in a tactile kind of way, it felt so loose.
Yeah, this one shot I agree with you. Everything else I've seen I prefer Kassandra tho
I would disagree. I've watched all the scenes with Kassandra since I picked Alexios, and honestly she comes across like a female RDJ. Not that it's a bad thing, but I just resonate with Alexios more.
Who cares about pitting them against each other? Recognize that there are two strong female characters within the past year presented as protagonists in AAA games and simply demand more of those. No need to have a cage match.
the problem with Aloy is that
story spoilers
story spoilers
its revealed that she is a special/chosen one/messiah type character. and its kind of boring, being a genetic descendant of the super scientist that created Project Dawn..... and only she can save the world
I honestly have no idea how people can play Horizon and have this opinion. Especially the no character growth.
When we first meet Aloy she is essentially a child abuse victim with a chip on her shoulder and growing up in a cult desperate to know who she is in order not to feel incomplete.
By the end of the game she is a confident self assured woman ready to build a life on her own terms.
Ps Varl is awesome.
That's basically every assassin's creed protagonist too...
not genetically, but manipulated by the Isu to be that eras chosen one.
Can't really speak for Kassandra as I have yet to play AC:Odessey (will take a look once it hits a steep discount, am kinda done with the AC series in general).
As for Aloy, I never really quite liked her. Some like her "no bull"-attitude but it also makes her appear bland. And not the funny Captain Holt type of bland (with the occasional hilarious moment mixed it), but the type of bland that you could replace her with a cardboard box with the word "Hero" written on it and the difference would be barely noticeable. She is just the "I am a Hero doing hero stuff for hero-ing!" character, she doesn't seem interested much in other characters except if "can I be a hero for you sir/maam!?" It maybe ties into the story about her actual past and stuff but that still doesn't make for a better character to me. It felt like she didn't have any weaknesses at all and was just the perfect heroic figure, and even then not the over the top "perfect" heroic figure like Dante of DMC, just "perfect", she could have been more human.
As for Aloy, I never really quite liked her. Some like her "no bull"-attitude but it also makes her appear bland. And not the funny Captain Holt type of bland (with the occasional hilarious moment mixed it), but the type of bland that you could replace her with a cardboard box with the word "Hero" written on it and the difference would be barely noticeable. She is just the "I am a Hero doing hero stuff for hero-ing!" character, she doesn't seem interested much in other characters except if "can I be a hero for you sir/maam!?" It maybe ties into the story about her actual past and stuff but that still doesn't make for a better character to me. It felt like she didn't have any weaknesses at all and was just the perfect heroic figure, and even then not the over the top "perfect" heroic figure like Dante of DMC, just "perfect", she could have been more human.
It's been awhile since I played Horizon but yeah I remember liking it more. I think one reason is because Aloy felt better to control too as Kassandra is just so flighty, like there's no weight to her movements.
Seeing I'm just doing all the side content of Odyssey at the moment 95% of my interactions with the MC of Odyssey has been 'let me guess, you want me to go kill all the bandits?' which has been weak, I like the sardonic nature played out most of the time but it's nothing special. Aloy was a stranger in a strange land who I don't really remember anything about now so my vote is eh either I guess.
She really isn't that bad. People were gushing about her around Horizon's launch. Although after reading these posts, I am curious to try Odyssey and see for myself what makes Kassandra so good.
I must have played a different Horizon game than all the Aloy haters in this thread... Kassandra's personality is cool, but also it does not feel relatable or believable at all compared to Aloy's somehow
fuck no, she's great.
I haven't played Assassin's Creed, but I like from what I've seen on Kassandra. Doesn't mean that Aloy is suddenly bad because of it.
