Here's his first post (besides the flavor joke) from today. Throws some side eyes at Geno and Terra, continues to I-Told-You-So about the B-Dubs lynch, and then goes after Melon's vote.Geno and Terra not wanting to vote for each other gives me weird feelings about both of them. The reasoning for that B-Dubs vote struck me as lazy. That Melon vote at the end was weird as hell too. A lot of shady shit going on.
Seems like a weird thing to say once he flipped town, Faddy kind of poked at this a bit too, he didn't seem to follow up much so I won't scum read it, but it sticks out to me.I was going to make a case for Zipped being scum later down the like cause it felt like he was coasting. I have a bad habit of scum reading that dude when he's town
I'm pretty sure complaining about room speculation was one of the things that made me feel weird about Chuggernaut yesterday, and now here he is doing it again. Just feels like a weak reason he wants to use to start a scum read on someone.I feel like room speculation is pointless until we get more information. I'm also not moving out of the quarters until I figure what the fuck moving does. I will fucking die in here
Yeah, Comrade doesn't make any sense, that's all fine, but there is still some more I-Told-You-So about B-Dubs that I noticed here in this post.Really? You're doubling down on this? How is that proof? I said that I thought it was weird, but didn't think it was a scum move, and then explained why I didn't think it was when questioned. And hey, I was right.
And now he wants to shade Terra for being on the B-Dubs lynch, linking two of the things from his first post (Terra not voting Geno and B-Dubs votes being lazy). Also, Melon posted somewhere between those posts, and he didn't try to question her even though she was one of the people he mentioned in his first post.Terra's being really aggressive while saying the votes on him were lazy while going with the lazy B-Dubs lynch on day 1 is some bullshit and I'm not buying it
I think there's something off about Chuggernaut so far here today. He ends yesterday voting for Geno and throwing shade at the B-Dubs lynch. I could make the argument this is because he already knew B-Dubs was Town and wanted to set himself up for some I-Told-You-So's today and to continue looking down on the people who voted there.
Here's his first post (besides the flavor joke) from today. Throws some side eyes at Geno and Terra, continues to I-Told-You-So about the B-Dubs lynch, and then goes after Melon's vote.
Seems like a weird thing to say once he flipped town, Faddy kind of poked at this a bit too, he didn't seem to follow up much so I won't scum read it, but it sticks out to me.
I'm pretty sure complaining about room speculation was one of the things that made me feel weird about Chuggernaut yesterday, and now here he is doing it again. Just feels like a weak reason he wants to use to start a scum read on someone.
Yeah, Comrade doesn't make any sense, that's all fine, but there is still some more I-Told-You-So about B-Dubs that I noticed here in this post.
And now he wants to shade Terra for being on the B-Dubs lynch, linking two of the things from his first post (Terra not voting Geno and B-Dubs votes being lazy). Also, Melon posted somewhere between those posts, and he didn't try to question her even though she was one of the people he mentioned in his first post.
Overall, this is kind of sketchy to me right now, and it adds on to a feeling I had about him yesterday.
Uh huh.Why thanks for reinforcing why I was suspicious of Chuggs in the first place
Comrade Sparkster is a huge question mark for me, and his play is very suspicious. The way he seems to be latching on to others reads and then trying to push narratives with them
*deep breath*Again, very weak argument. Thanks to you harping on this so much you got me to check the actual vote count and I had a whopping ZERO votes on me when I last posted at the time. How the hell was I supposed to know the narrative would be turned against me when I wasn't even present to begin with. You keep ignoring the fact that I wasn't even here to defend myself as if I'm expected to play this game when I can't. That alone discredits that point.
I did attempt to diffuse the situation. You act as if I popped in and twiddled my damn thumbs. I was literally sitting at my computer for the entire last ~two hours of the day doing what I could to do myself justice, and I specifically called out the people voting me because their reasons were not explained well. So again, not making any sense. There's literally nothing more I could have done since I don't control how others vote.
I answered the last bit above because that's one hell of a misconception you got there if you think EoD somehow supersedes all the other precedings that take place throughout the entire 48 hours.
And to say I should vote for two people I openly said I was against voting makes even less sense. Literally my last post on Geno said he was a town read, so why would I vote for him? B-Dubs was a null read as I said before and I only voted him when I had to for self preservation at the very end. You talk about "bad play" a lot, but "bad play" is voting for a town read for self preservation. If anything, that's one suspect as hell sentence you got there. Sounds like you thought I should have made up a reason to hop on a bandwagon that I was actively against, which is the definition of "terrible play." That's definitely not how I play. I stick to my own reads and plan accordingly.
Fair enough yeah, and this is the first game I've played with him, so I don't know how he plays on that level. I just had this feeling like he set himself up yesterday to be right about B-Dubs today, and he seems to want to go with the idea of B-Dubs votes being inherently bad (funny that Comrade seems to think that too, but whatever).Chuggernaut feels a bit blind spot for me, I don't have any meat to go on and he's just present enough that I don't think much of it. There's a lot of " i told you so" mentality going on but that can be normal with new players and I don't know his overall skill level.
I think there's something off about Chuggernaut so far here today. He ends yesterday voting for Geno and throwing shade at the B-Dubs lynch. I could make the argument this is because he already knew B-Dubs was Town and wanted to set himself up for some I-Told-You-So's today and to continue looking down on the people who voted there.
Here's his first post (besides the flavor joke) from today. Throws some side eyes at Geno and Terra, continues to I-Told-You-So about the B-Dubs lynch, and then goes after Melon's vote.
Seems like a weird thing to say once he flipped town, Faddy kind of poked at this a bit too, he didn't seem to follow up much so I won't scum read it, but it sticks out to me.
I'm pretty sure complaining about room speculation was one of the things that made me feel weird about Chuggernaut yesterday, and now here he is doing it again. Just feels like a weak reason he wants to use to start a scum read on someone.
Yeah, Comrade doesn't make any sense, that's all fine, but there is still some more I-Told-You-So about B-Dubs that I noticed here in this post.
And now he wants to shade Terra for being on the B-Dubs lynch, linking two of the things from his first post (Terra not voting Geno and B-Dubs votes being lazy). Also, Melon posted somewhere between those posts, and he didn't try to question her even though she was one of the people he mentioned in his first post.
Overall, this is kind of sketchy to me right now, and it adds on to a feeling I had about him yesterday.
Fair enough yeah, and this is the first game I've played with him, so I don't know how he plays on that level. I just had this feeling like he set himself up yesterday to be right about B-Dubs today, and he seems to want to go with the idea of B-Dubs votes being inherently bad (funny that Comrade seems to think that too, but whatever).
You are sheeping Fantomas. That's what is happening.
Yeah, that's we people were saying at the time. I didn't have that much time to catch up before EoD. Didn't like any of the lynches for D1 personally.
Why are you and Faddy so interested in me this game? He comes at me for meta and timezones and you like to tag me.
Your entire town read is based on a conversation with Geno where he goes 'lol okay' and meta reasoning. This is your own thought processYes, vote for the person who I claimed to be a town read? Between a town read and a null read I'm definitely not going for the former.
Seems like you must be lurking pretty hard there based on how quickly you responded. So you got an answer or what?
Why? Most people who moved have other posts as well, so it's not like we're grasping for reasons to provide more content. Ironic coming from you when your only posts are a joke post and a post complaining about other people posting. If you're really so bent over people contributing you could try to adding something yourself if you're just going to complain.
You came across initially as if you had some beef with those who moved so I was prodding you to see if you thought that was actually relevant and indicative or anything.
That was the reason I was prodding him in the first place. Similar to what Sorian posted, I just wanted Geno to want to do something for himself rather than lurking and making someone force him to actually do something of note. His initial post came across as if he was suspicious so prodding him was an attempt to get him to actually explain his reasoning as opposed to sitting back doing nothing, as was the case until I pushed him to do something.
I'm not even suspicious of Geno, if anything I feel the opposite after our exchange. And I don't get how you say I did "nothing new" when you reference the fact that I was the only one to push Geno to actually participate in discussion as opposed to lurking and coasting. I've done other things besides that so I'm not sure what you're missing here.
It's nothing new in mafia to have similar thoughts as others. I don't recall someone saying those exact thoughts on Febe but I could have glossed over it. But to say the entirety of my actions are straight up regurgitation and restatements of what has already been said is outright false my guy.
Just getting out of research lab shit so I'm behind. I know EoD is coming close so I'll try to catch up ASAP
Pivot from Geno? I only expressed my read on Geno once, and that was town. So that doesn't make any sense. And if you read my posts in response to Kalor, it was a gradual build up in which I explained my reasoning. Which brings me to
What about my vote was remotely forced? I called out specific posts he made which crescendoed with him jumping on the exact same reason Sorian and Faddy(?) used against me. In addition to the fact that his assertion against me didn't make any sense and came across as filler to throw some shade.
Still want to reread what I missed, but before it gets too late in the day I want to make sure I shared my thoughts on Geno and why I thought he was town.
Town Geno that I'm very familiar with is more of a "I do what I want" type of player who doesn't always see reason to share his logic. It was his initial dodginess with me and posts like the following that stood out as reminding me of that behavior.
The part of his current play that gives me pause is that he's not playing. Town Geno is a lot of things, but he most certainly puts up a fight when it seems as if he's on the verge of being lynched. The only time in the heat of the moment where he cocks back is when he gets frustrated and gives everyone the whole "you'll see how wrong you are when I flip" spiel. Geno that is actively coasting is generally scum Geno (as I was able to pick up on pretty quickly the last game I played with scum Geno).
But regardless, at the moment I'm not confident in voting him.
Whole thing reeks of indecisive pussyfooting. You had one convo with Geno, he ducked and now you're trying to fit past games into a town read. Just...wow. Should've went with gut instead of meta.I thought I quoted more than I did but apparently not. But that one quote I did take from him was not just answering questions, that's what pushed me over into voting for him. My thoughts on him were clear and explained so it shouldn't come across as any surprise.
A "back and forth" doesn't insinuate anything about my perception of his alignment. I dropped it because Geno went into that phase he frequently does as town where he starts ignoring people when he doesn't want to engage any further. Which is one of the reasons I explained before why I town read him.
I also disagree on the point on Kalor, and I didn't think it warranted a direct response when I literally elaborated further in my very next post. There was some momentum pushing against me early on, so Kalor making false accusations and using a restated explanation as a case against me did not sit well with me at all. Felt as if he was mounting suspicions further so he could pounce on my vote when it started picking up pace.
I've also played enough mafia to not make the very obvious and dumb move of intentionally pushing a bandwagon a third of the way through the day. Especially not one that was only two votes in and hardly even room to bank hard enough to wagon on.
Oh man, careful not to fall off that horse Melon. I was tagging you because you've been M.I.A for a while which is somewhat uncharacterstic, and your 'no tie' was very opportunistic. And I'm going to keep on tagging you until you slink out of the ether.You are sheeping Fantomas. That's what is happening.
Yeah, that's we people were saying at the time. I didn't have that much time to catch up before EoD. Didn't like any of the lynches for D1 personally.
Why are you and Faddy so interested in me this game? He comes at me for meta and timezones and you like to tag me.
People bring in such static and noises to the game
no good signal
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With the room thing my point was thinking that you might want to use that to make a scum read on someone in the future, not that you have already, I might not have made that clear but that's what I was going for. Just the thought that you want to set yourself up to scum read someone later for something that ultimately isn't that big of a deal but could be framed that way.I still do suspect Melon, but there's not much to go off of in that post she made, and other people beat me to it. I really wasn't super pleased with how the EoD turned out, so I kind of went a little too hard on the I told you so's. I'm not really sure what point you're making with the room thing? I never scum read anyone for that.
I'm glad you pointed this out, because I would of otherwise.
Ok, I see that point, I think I just read into that a bit more than I should have. Terra is in an odd spot for me because I agree with Faddy that it's probably not wise to be lynching these Cop claims yet, but I feel the suspicion.Okay, so this is a misunderstanding on my part, so sorry. I do think the votes on him were lazy, but it's day 1 and that shit happens sometimes. What I think is weird is that Terra wants to act like all votes on him are lazy while also going with a lazy lynch.
Your entire town read is based on a conversation with Geno where he goes 'lol okay' and meta reasoning. This is your own thought process
Whole thing reeks of indecisive pussyfooting. You had one convo with Geno, he ducked and now you're trying to fit past games into a town read. Just...wow. Should've went with gut instead of meta.
Comrade Sparkster is a huge question mark for me, and his play is very suspicious. The way he seems to be latching on to others reads and then trying to push narratives with them
Oh man, careful not to fall off that horse Melon. I was tagging you because you've been M.I.A for a while which is somewhat uncharacterstic, and your 'no tie' was very opportunistic. And I'm going to keep on tagging you until you slink out of the ether.
nothing we can really glean from this now with only the single data point but a good thing to keep in mind on future days.While it is baseless speculation. How do we feel about the fact Zipped was in a room with only poltergust?
Mafia potentially avoiding a watcher type role?
Yes, but then i tend to be very biased gainst sparks.I think Sparkster looks scummy in every game but this is worse than usual right?
Were we supposed to suspect Polter for being in the same room as Zipped? What scum team would expect that to work?
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nothing we can really glean from this now with only the single data point but a good thing to keep in mind on future days.
Yes, but then i tend to be very biased gainst sparks.
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Vague about what? Because I haven't been vague about wanting to hear from you.I do like ponies.
I am no longer in the same timezone which is noted in the roster if you look. Which is I've been more absent this past day phase. It seems weird you instead of simply asking you've been quite vague about your meaning until now.
Like if you want more shitposting.
"Shut up, you're not going anywhere. You, me, Terra and malus are going to have dinner Tonight. I insist."
"Shut up, you're not going anywhere. You, me, Terra and malus are going to have dinner Tonight. I insist."
And by the by, where the fuck is Bdubs' body? This is a hermetically sealed emergency habitat and that shit should be accounted for. So where the fuck is it? Where? Where is it? Don't make me look in the freezers!"