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Wkd Box Office - 10•12-14•18 - Thor, Rocket Raccoon, and Hercules team up. Still can't beat Venom.

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This is ResetEra's weekend box office thread. While the OP focuses on the popular weekend tallies, we typically discuss box office throughout the week as well when notable films are playing. New threads are are posted each Sunday morning, between 8-10am PST.



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Sony Swings Past $1 Billion As 'Venom' Bites $35M+; 'First Man' Has Soft Launch With $16M+

Venom's solid second weekend of $35.7M (-55%) and Goosebumps 2's $16.2M opening have swung Sony past the $1 billion mark at the domestic box office for the year, making it the fourth major to do so. Disney has been there for a while with $2.75B+, Warner Bros. is north of $1.3B, and Universal at $1.2B+.

Venom turned in a Saturday of $15.3M, +58% over Friday, meaning the younger males turned out. There was a pause on Friday morning after Warner Bros.' A Star Is Born beat Venom on Thursday that the momentum would continue into the weekend. The Bradley Cooper-Lady Gaga musical romance still did great with a $11.8M Saturday, +38% for a second weekend around $28M (-34%) and 10-day of $94.1M.

Universal is calling their astronaut drama First Man in third with $16.5M. There was hope at Uni that First Man would do better (like $20M) and hindsight being 20/20 there's no regrets about not launching this during the holiday season when multiples are huge versus now. The studio went in the fall, not just based off the heat the pic had at TIFF, but because they were looking at fall multiples for awards season fare, i.e. Bridge of Spies' 4.7x ($15.3M opening, $72.3M domestic). Some rivals though think First Man will run out of gas getting to the $60M range with audience scores which aren't exactly over the moon with a B+ CinemaScore and 79% overall positive on PostTrak. The slowdown and under-performance with First Man has less to do with any flag controversy and more to do with its lengthy 2 hour and 21 minute running time and the fact that it's a drama first and foremost, unlike the snappy VFX extravaganzas from previous Octobers, Gravity and The Martian. Imax drove 23% of the gross hear and PLF another 9%. Guys were predominant at 56%, with 52% over 35.

Bad Times at the El Royale from Fox 2000 cooled down 10% on Saturday with an estimated $2.7M for a 3-day of $7.2M at 2,808. Not so hot for this adult genre film which will really face a monster next weekend when Universal/Miramax/Blumhouse's Halloween scares up $60M worth of business. How bad was the Bad Times at the El Royale? So bad that the movie got beat by Universal's Night School which made more money in its third weekend with $8M and on fewer screens, 2,780. As we assessed in the previous post, Bad Times came across as too edgy, '90s arthouse.

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DOMESTIC WEEKEND BOX OFFICE



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WORLDWIDE WEEKEND BOX OFFICE

The Incredibles 2 - $1.228B
Venom - $378M
The Nun - $359M
A Star is Born - $135M
Smallfoot - $110M
The House with a Clock in its Walls - $102M
Johnny English Strikes Again - $82M
First Man - $25M







Weekend Box Office Archive and Appendix

Thread Archive

Web links to box office resources

Explanation of Box Office Terms, Abbreviations, and Concepts
 
MotiD

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Man, MCU fans have had a rough week.

I'm hoping I can get my GF to see Halloween in theater next week
 
overcast

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Great drop for Star and surprisingly solid drop for Venom. Really wish First Man opened higher cause it's damn good.
 
Hero

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That's a softer drop for Venom than I anticipated. Kind of crazy, one of those RT/MC-proof movies I suppose.
 
berzeli

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That's not great for First Man. Shame. Wonder if A Star is Born is eating into its audience, or if there's just not enough there for it.

Venom is now well over what boxoffice.com thought it would do lifetime. I did think it was odd how insistent they were with their tracking.

Colette more like Cool-ette (I wish I was sorry but I'm not). Not sure if it can expand much more but it's doing pretty decent

Sad to see that Sisters Brothers isn't catching on, I like the director, I like the actors, and I like that Annapurna has taken some big swings.
Also sad about The Happy Prince, that's a real soft open. Shame, Rupert Everett really seemed to have given his all for this.
And in third of this trilogy of me being sad The Sisters Brothers is not doing especially great either, won't come close to making Annapurna back those $9M they paid for US distribution rights.

Assassination Nation won't even hit $2M, and it doesn't get better for NEON with Monsters and Men dropping hard.

The Hate U Give is on the softer side if you look at it for a potential breakout. A decent weekend though.
 
Meows

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I love some legs. This movie is making a ton of money looking at the budget of 36M.
 
cheesekao

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Just watched Venom today and man, critics made it out to be some vile shit but I actually enjoyed it quite a lot. I guess that's why I never take the opinion of movie critics seriously and always go with my gut feeling.
 
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First Man looks to be hitting those well than good predictions and that is just disappointing. The movie is damn good. CRA still keeps on going strong for its run.

A Star is Born looks to have strong legs as expected.
 
Icemonk191

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Clearly next weekend is when Venom will totally bomb! 99% drops here we come!!!/s

Good drops for Venom, a bit better than I thought too. I don't think anyone can deny that Venom has good word of mouth any longer.
 
Daingurse

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Venom is doing pretty good! Saw it Tuesday with some family, and we all came away liking it. I enjoyed it much more than I anticipated.

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I bet Carnage will just zombify or wrap victims in a cocoon to get around the violence Rating
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He could whatever he was doing in Spider-Man TAS if they want to tone it down lol.
 
JigglesBunny

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Thankfully Halloween is going to put a stop to Venom's reign of terror this week.

Pretty awful turn out for Bad Times at the El Royale considering their marketing has been going hard for the past two months.
 
Visanideth

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Venom is injecting life in the Spiderverse. Sorry Feige and Holland, Sony has other plans for Spidey!


Oh boy
 
STech

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Good hold for Venom.
Looking foward to see the reception in China.


I would be great to see a 18 (R) secuel with Carnage
 
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A quick chart of second weekend drops for major superhero films from recent years (since the start of MCU Phase 3 in 2016)"

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Title				Second Wkd Drop
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Wonder Woman			43.3%
Black Panther			44.7%
Doctor Strange			49.5%
Thor: Ragnarok			53.5%
Venom				55.5%
Guardians of the Galaxy 2	55.5%
Avengers: Infinity War		55.5%
Justice League			56.2%
Logan				56.9%
Deadpool			57.4%
Captain America: Civil War	59.5%
Ant-Man and the Wasp		61.6%
Spider-Man Homecoming		62.2%
X-Men Apocalpyse		65.3%
Deadpool 2			65.4%
Suicide Squad			67.4%
Batman v Superman		69.1%
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AVERAGE				57.56%
AVG W/O outliers		59.37%
 
Plasticine

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Glad to see Venom doing so well. Long may Sony's Spider-Man-less Spider-Man Cinematic Universe live!
 

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They could film Carnage shot by shot with how he's portrayed in the comics and not get close to an R. Spider-Man has never been an R rated comic.

Hell, The Punisher could be PG-13 too. We don't need to see a ton of blood and guts to get the point across. Venom bit peoples heads off, ate them whole, killed dozens of people in his movies.

Do you really think if he got in the MCU anything would be different?
 
Brandon

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Venom is great so I'm glad it's doing great! Audience score is way more important than critic score.
 
mreddie

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Avi Arad is happy while doing blow and thinking up about how a Jackpot movie will work in the non Spidey universe.
 
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berzeli said:
That's not great for First Man. Shame. Wonder if A Star is Born is eating into its audience, or if there's just not enough there for it.
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You might be right about A Star is Born sucking up all the wind for more adult fare right now at the box office, and I think that Gaga gives the film a crossover appeal that Ryan Gosling never had any chance of matching. I doubt First Man is going to do bad in the long run, but considering that we're only a couple years removed from when Universal botched Steve Jobs, I'm thinking that their scheduling skills leave something to be desired for their mainstream-appealing prestige films.
 
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Think the only director working today that can make a movie about space flight appealing to mass audiences is Christopher Nolan. Chazelle and Gosling made a very good movie but unfortunately not a commercially palatable one. It's an emotionally draining, tough watch.
 

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Critch said:
They could film Carnage shot by shot with how he's portrayed in the comics and not get close to an R. Spider-Man has never been an R rated comic.

Hell, The Punisher could be PG-13 too. We don't need to see a ton of blood and guts to get the point across. Venom bit peoples heads off, ate them whole, killed dozens of people in his movies.

Do you really think if he got in the MCU anything would be different?
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Get out of here with your logic! Seriously, we're talking spiderman comics not Deadpool or even wolverine. In the movie he clearly ate two people's heads and devoured two entire people, I think people get the idea that he's supposed to be terrifying. I would prefer an R rated carnage though, not going to lie
 
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