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PS5 and next Xbox launch speculation - Post E3 2018
- Thread starter Phoenix Splash
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This is my main reason for a 2020 launch. The ps4 is selling very well and could easily ride out 2019 - 2020 with the first party titles we know about, a couple we don't, third party titles, and a price drop. I haven't seen anyone make a business arguement for why the ps5 would be 2019.
Yes Detox, think of it this way while PS4 Pro was in development they took some architecture improvements as in FP16/32 from the Vega even thou it wasn't out yet on the PC.
As in the SOC itself and clocks, it will all depend on how they will handle voltage and cooling.. I do hope they allow some good voltage control with improved cooling so we can have bigger clocks especially on the CPU.
There's many possibilities here with the Navi architecture and whatever comes beyond.
On the PS5 topic I am 100% sure Cerny will take the best approach to it especially taking in consideration they are deep into AMD architectures (and who knows maybe even more of the funding is true
Don't have any IW sources do you? Could come in very handy around about now...!
Well when the PS4 launched in 2013, they were paying $88 for the ram so $11/gb. How did wholesale prices compare back then I wonder?
No, not weird and I'm putting my fingers in my ears with you and this damn 2020 talk, lol.
La la la la la la
As always, you opinion, insight is always welcome. That's the thing with rumors, speculation. They're not concrete info.
I'm just dying on the 2019 hill. Not wavering anymore.
Kidding of course but boy would it answer some burning questions if someone here did have a contact there.
The only devs that should have devkits already or receiving them soon should be the ones releasing something holiday 2019 and considered major like Ubisoft game or activision game or something like borderlands 3 which I have theorized that reveal was pushed back for Sony to reveal alongside ps5 reveal for 2019 launch. So far we have a clue with cod 2019 where they are hiring for next gen. With BC, Sony doesn't need to go out of its way to make sure every dev needs the kits as soon as possible. Games could always be patched for ps5 upgrades.
Did anyone else address this? 6 slices? Are you talking about different SKU's?
Also some good points posted about why we aren't hearing anything yet and it can still come in 2019.
The next 6 months might be key. After March 2019, no real info might mean 2020 for sure.
The post about Xbox launching next year, And PS5 still scheduled for 2020 is a good point too.
The next 6 months might be key. After March 2019, no real info might mean 2020 for sure.
The post about Xbox launching next year, And PS5 still scheduled for 2020 is a good point too.
With that cod 2019 job post, is it possible that "next gen" could mean project stream?
What post is about Xbox launching next year? I must have missed it.
What post is about Xbox launching next year? I must have missed it.
It is an oddly specific analogy, but feels too vague to draw any conclusions.
I'm thinking it is the 6 initiatives going forward for PlayStation with PS4 bc being one of them
It's weird noone asked about it. Let's see if K. can get back to it
Yeah, if there isn't anything before April 1st next year, that is a wrap for 2019.
Of course, they could announce in 2019 and launch in 2020 too.
PSN update
PS catalog bc
Multidevice support
PSnow expansion
Software catalog
Psvue and other entertainment
This is me guessing
Ubisoft doesnt have kits (at least as far as I'm aware)
If you are referring to me I'm always MORE than willing to vet anything the mods want me to. That's the entire reason I'm allowed to post the way I do.
Mods are not unaware of who I am
If you are referring to me I'm always MORE than willing to vet anything the mods want me to. That's the entire reason I'm allowed to post the way I do.
Mods are not unaware of who I am
Yes this things are needed judging by the direction the direction other players are going in.
The only devs I expect to have kits are 1st Parties. And even then, probably just a few like ND, SSM, GG etc.
Do you think that the hardware stays the same for 2019 and 2020, or does it get small changes if it's delayed?
It is worth delaying 12 months to get all of these things into place at launch. I want to see my ps digital buys available through psnow. I know disc buyers would want this as well, but it'd likely be limited by something such as disc in the drive for them. Who knows
The positions are provisional ones. At least that's why people were saying on the other thread. So it has to be for the next CoD
This is not a competition... your looking at it the worst way possible
And as stated earlier, there is no rush for Sony. They are on top of their game. There are still plenty of games (1st and 3rd) for this generation. The PS4 isn't considerably slowing down.
Instead of looking at it as Sony resting on their laurels by not releasing sooner, it is more about making sure they get more right than wrong at launch/around launch. An extra year makes a world of difference. I'd prefer everything right from the start. I'm more than fine using PS4 for another ~2 years.
I agree wholeheartedly. Take advantage of expectations above expectations.
The consumer expects far more than they did in 2013. Include what changes Google, Ms, and others will bring into the equation, and you must get it right day 1
No way, sorry.
You're totally wrong about this, at least. In a month the S and the Slim will make most of the sales of the holidays, and most of the sales of the sku's, WW, for 2018.
The X hasn't set any new standard for prices for the base models. That's preposterous sorry to say
No, we can make much more than dream of unreasonable scenarios, we can discuss reasonable ones.
That's what we try to do here
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So Sony going in e3 2019 without ps5 announced and let MS showcase all the next gen power.... OOOK guys. Please show me how Sony can combat this.
If ps5 is Nov 2020, I don't see Sony reveal ps5 before Feb or March 2020, what that means for whole 2019?
I don't buy that they cancel psx because they got nothing to show, usually they have too many to fit into their conference.
I believe this is because there are new things or features to ps5 that they need to reveal with the game itself.
Next gen will be who is 399 and who is early.
Is MS announce that next gen is 399 then regardless of spec, people will talk big about it and how they are changed, with all the developer purchase, it only will be positive.
So Sony need to get it right this time.
With psx changes, no game announced and some changes here and there, all lead up to 2019
If ps5 is Nov 2020, I don't see Sony reveal ps5 before Feb or March 2020, what that means for whole 2019?
I don't buy that they cancel psx because they got nothing to show, usually they have too many to fit into their conference.
I believe this is because there are new things or features to ps5 that they need to reveal with the game itself.
Next gen will be who is 399 and who is early.
Is MS announce that next gen is 399 then regardless of spec, people will talk big about it and how they are changed, with all the developer purchase, it only will be positive.
So Sony need to get it right this time.
With psx changes, no game announced and some changes here and there, all lead up to 2019
I would were it not for the 'same architecture' thing. That's the specific reason I think it's still possible and why it can't be directly compared to the previous transition.
We will maybe have something interesting a more aggressive Microsoft for a remake of 360 against PS3 with huge difference PS5 will not launch at 599 dollars/euros and launch lineup will be much better than PS3. But they will have to fight one or multiple huge Microsoft title like the PS3 launch lineup goes against Gears of war.
What I imagine might be happening is that key first and third parties - ones that have games projected for launch day - have first wave dev kits and Sony is waiting on them to signal that the key software will be ready for launch. Once they get this info, they can start rolling out stuff wider, for other partners that won't have software for launch. IW is probably one of those key partners.
Same :) As time is passing i am even more convinced late 2020 is out of question.
A competition with who?
I am viewing this entirely through the lens of what is rational and what is not. Nothing about 2019 in this conversation has ever been rational. It wasn't 12 months ago, and it's still not today.
I only care about what is true. I'm not a fan of misinformation.
You realize that multiple insiders have confirmed that 2019 was the plan for a long time? At this point, not even considering 2019 as a possibility is irrational.
But that would only be the case for the US and UK. Outside of these 2 territories nobody really gives a damn about Xbox over Playstation.
I think the next AC will definitely be a cross-gen title,and a new major AC is skipping 2019 btw.
See, that's were you're wrong.
You don't care for the truth, at all. You just care for your agenda and what's worse, making it into a competition to mock those who think different.
There has been plenty of rational stuff about the possible 2019 release. Plenty.
Even Benji acknowledged that yesterday
To say that nothing regarding a 2019 release is rational just shows how much you care for a thoughtful discussion in search of the truth
Another things the console launching in 2019 will sold well, early adopters have no problems with cross gen games, a great launch lineup is not needed.
But if the hardware this time around is really "just" beefed up PS4/One Tech that you can emulate to (idk) 85% with a comparable PC they wouldn't need dev kits until a few months before launch. And Benji said the dev kit docs are supposed to be going out before the end of the year. So the dev kits for the Launch day devs should be going out in the beginning of 2019. '
So we'll be getting a PS Meeting in March/April and that's around the same time the devs will get their hands on near final dev kits.
Sounds not so far fetched imo.
Thank you so much.
Everyone here should know I would never purposely mislead anyone. I'm not interested in doing that sort of thing
This one:
In regards to the CoD listing.
I can see this scenario, and Sony launching in 2019 also, even if they had finally settled to launch in 2020.
Or they still launch in 2020 no matter when the next Xbox launches.
It's all speculation tho. Just some good points IMO.
If PS5 was initially planned for 2019 and hardware was locked in, do you think the 2020 delay could lead to hardware changes (spec bump)?
Last time around we got Rogue for the old gen and Unity for PS4/Next Gen. At launch we got Black Flag for both gens.
This time around i think we'll see the same with Watch Dogs 3. That will be cross gen and 2020 we'll get a big shiny next gen Assassins Creed and a spin off for PS4/One.