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PancakeFlip

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Oct 26, 2017
7,923
Is someone trolling when they do something like Onslaught and use a character weak to the element of the event and just sit in the room?
 

Chrono

Teyvat Traveler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
21,138
The sooner they allow hosts to kick people, the better. The potential for trolling is just too high right now, especially with how long it takes to fill a lobby (when hosting), compared to using wings to join a random room, where's it's basically instant.
 

cw_sasuke

Member
Oct 27, 2017
26,401
Its really difficult to get back into the groove in terms of coop for the current event. The Elite players look down quite a bit on anyone that doesnt have 7/8k might even though the 15 Stamina Raid stage could be cleared with the available team setup.

On one hand it sucks...on the other hand i cant blame them because they dont want to "carry" weaker players when it results in having to spend more time.

Well ill see if i can get some runs in with the Era guys....this weekend - they should be OP enough to carry a bit lol.And if not - there is always a next Raid.
I feel for you. Was gonna wait until they officially released the game in Europe so that I could link my UK Account, in the hope that they might add My Nintendo rewards or something. Now linked a fresh US account, which guards my Dragalia save. Even gave a cool 100 wyrmites for doing it.

In case you're wondering why I didn't just switch my account region to link and switch back. I did that once to buy some games but had 3 cents left and so couldn't go back to my home region without calling support. They left the 3 cents on my account, so I would be have to do that again, but they also said they would only do it once and once only so ..better not tempt fate.

I honestly should have just created a burner US account, but at the same time i didnt wanna jeopardize linking my main account to it down the line. Its my fault at the end since i knew something like this could happen...but i didnt expect my phone to die between now and the EU release...wtf lol.
Sasuke noooooooooooooooooo!
I mean im not dead hah.
Thankfully all the other important data was backed up the Cloud and/or my Micro SD.

We have come along away...i remember times when a broken phones could really get you in trouble. Dragalia Lost is really the exception since i played it knowing that this could happen.
Damn, sorry man. This was my greatest fear after not linking my account, which is why I opted to change my Nintendo Account region to US, despite the headaches involved. I don't blame you for not wanting to do it though, it's not exactly ideal. Honestly, if I were to lose my account I'm not so sure I'd go back to playing right away, not until it released in my region (Canada). Well, I say that, but I'd probably still crawl back. The game has its hooks in me. :/

I wish you luck in your new account! Maybe Halloween will treat you well.

Thanks...yes its a bummer, you know you like a game when your second thought after your phone dying is " Shit my DL account" lol.
I was quite pissed at first, but as you said, i really like the game and i knew that i would sooner or later re-install it and then be mad that i didnt jump back immediately. At the end of the day we are still very early in the games life cycle...i doubt ill care 2-3 years from now that lost a one week old account.

Having to re-add people again and loosing out on those 5* (Ezelith/Lily/Hawk/Agni) sucks a lot but...but im looking forward to getting my first 5* Adventurer now. Maybe this upcoming Halloween Event...do we already know what units will be featured ?

PS. Would i have been able to get my account back if i had spent money on the game ? I wonder....i always had Nintendo games linked to my account, so it never was an issue. But i wonder if the customer service would have been able retieve the account based on my ID and some reciept that i bought stuff.

PS2. Now that i dont have have any 5* units at all ...that Beginner bundle that grants you a 5* looks quite appealing, especially since i cant get a dupe (heh).
 

Parshias

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,600
I think I'm done with the event for the most part. I'm at 3.5k Gold Emblems so doing a bit of EX co-op for the daily quest until the end should let me grab the next pack of upgrade materials. I could possibly hit 6k if I blew all the apolowings they just handed out but I've had my fill of the raid boss for the most part so I'll just save them for something else. I'll just hit the dailies and spend my resources elsewhere.

I need to grind out Imperial Onslaught to make a 4* elemental weapon. I tried out Master level of the water one and it wasn't really that tough, but then I found out that level only drops the stuff you need for the 5* weapons so I'll need to downgrade my farming.
 

Ravidrath

Verified
Oct 27, 2017
297
Los Angeles, CA
I do not want them to give people the ability to kick.

Agreed.

Right now there is nothing actually preventing you from joining a raid room, so putting conditions on it like requiring 1/4 of the suggested to even queue up would be a big help.

But I'd probably go even further and require at least two characters of the strong element, and no characters of the weak element.
 

LiQuid!

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,986
Anybody else running in to the opposite problem now where it's super fast to fill a hosted room but I keep getting "no rooms found" when I try to join with wings lol
 

SiG

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Oct 25, 2017
6,485
I'm so close to getting to that 7k mark, and it's ironic that it's because I've joined Phraegantoh Expert raids. I'm pretty sure my party has survived many rounds unscathed, but it seems they take an issue with having two healers instead of just one.
 

Parshias

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Oct 25, 2017
1,600
Agreed.

Right now there is nothing actually preventing you from joining a raid room, so putting conditions on it like requiring 1/4 of the suggested to even queue up would be a big help.

But I'd probably go even further and require at least two characters of the strong element, and no characters of the weak element.

They can fix this by fixing the Might system. Right now elemental bonuses don't factor into Might at all. That means the bonus stats from having a Light dragon on a Light character? Doesn't count for Might. The bonus for having a Light weapon on a Light character? Doesn't count either. The effectiveness of bringing a Light character to a Shadow map? Not factored at all.

I understand they want to keep it more simple, but as long as a large amount of players in co-op base everything off of a number by your name this stuff will keep happening.

Anyone with enough experience with the raid would know an 8k~ Might team with all Water characters who have the event wyrmprint equipped is going to be better off than a 10k~ Might team with no Waters and no event prints on them. Yet you'll find plenty of people spamming NOPE in Special rooms in that exact situation.
 

Ravidrath

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Oct 27, 2017
297
Los Angeles, CA
They can fix this by fixing the Might system. Right now elemental bonuses don't factor into Might at all. That means the bonus stats from having a Light dragon on a Light character? Doesn't count for Might. The bonus for having a Light weapon on a Light character? Doesn't count either. The effectiveness of bringing a Light character to a Shadow map? Not factored at all.

I understand they want to keep it more simple, but as long as a large amount of players in co-op base everything off of a number by your name this stuff will keep happening.

Anyone with enough experience with the raid would know an 8k~ Might team with all Water characters who have the event wyrmprint equipped is going to be better off than a 10k~ Might team with no Waters and no event prints on them. Yet you'll find plenty of people spamming NOPE in Special rooms in that exact situation.

Yeah, dynamically adjusting Might depending on the situation would definitely help.

The whole point of Might is to simplify, but it's oversimplified in the context of something like this.

I'd imagine at some point that this will start to effect story progression, too.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Spent all this time focusing on my water team I hadn't realized the mixed team I set up with the highest gear has crept up to nearly 11k might. Could probably get to over 12k but I'm saving mats and mana for any potential new units from the Halloween banner. Plus what good is a mixed team with high might since at least one will be at disadvantage?

'Twas a nice surprise unlocking endeavors for team might though. I suggest others dedicate a team slot to min max for might just to complete those endeavors as you level up characters, dragons, weapons, and prints.
 

Pablo Mesa

Banned
Nov 23, 2017
6,878
Beyond the story mode with the Dragons, does leveling up their bond actually help with combat? Obviously you get the rewards and at level 10 you get some of those dragon scales or whatever they are, but it doesn't affect their might, etc., right?

More bond = higher might and longer dragon time

I do not want them to give people the ability to kick.

Not kick but add a filter that people 500-1000 might away from the minimum cant even join in 1st place without the code
 

Chrono

Teyvat Traveler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
21,138
Yeah at this point I've seen WAAAY more stupid hosts than trolls and thats probably going to only get worse the higher you get into end content. Not so much people who want to min-max, but people who don't know how to accurately judge the content without depending on might.
My biggest issue are the people who join a room and won't Ready up. It's happened to me a few times, and it's pretty frustrating when you're the host, considering how long it takes for people to join your room. Maybe I've just been unlucky, but when 3/4 join and hit Ready, only for a fourth to come in and just sits there. I don't necessarily care about Might level, unless you're drastically short of whatever the requirement is, but at least hit Ready. Maybe have a timer set in-game, so if you're left idle without hitting Ready for a certain period of time, then make it possible to remove them from the group?
 

Zeno

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Oct 25, 2017
9,150
Finally got 6000+ might to try and join groups in expert mode for the event. I mean....I got there by mixing up some dragons that aren't necessarily more suited for characters than a water dragon, but it boosted my might....

Edit: Beat expert mode.

And now I see 'Clash EX' which I didn't know existed.

Edit2: Got with a good team and beat that. Holy shit. He's much more aggressive, but the rewards for winning are fantastic!
 
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Poody

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Oct 27, 2017
2,440
I've saved up enough for another 10-summons but debating whether I should spend it in this banner or just save for Halloween. On the one hand I'd love Leviathan to pair with my Lily or Xander (only have Mercury right now), but on the other I already have Lily. I'm leaning toward saving. One thing I've learned with gacha games is if you're targeting one rare pull you're bound to be disappointed or spend a lot of $.
I would do it. I got all the winter summon items already. I got Lily on a free summon ticket.
 

deepFlaw

Knights of Favonius World Tour '21
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Oct 25, 2017
23,497
I'd say a solution to elitist hosts would be to allow them to set room requirements, but I feel like then you'd:

1. have a problem where people who don't really understand how important or not the settings they're picking are could accidentally make it harder to get people, or for others to join rooms in general
2. have to handle whether joiners are allowed to specify if they have restrictions themselves or are fine with joining rooms that have them, and that complicated things further

Better might calculation in general would be a big help for this, though.
 

Falk

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Oct 26, 2017
4,065
Spent all this time focusing on my water team I hadn't realized the mixed team I set up with the highest gear has crept up to nearly 11k might. Could probably get to over 12k but I'm saving mats and mana for any potential new units from the Halloween banner. Plus what good is a mixed team with high might since at least one will be at disadvantage?

'Twas a nice surprise unlocking endeavors for team might though. I suggest others dedicate a team slot to min max for might just to complete those endeavors as you level up characters, dragons, weapons, and prints.

This is the crux of a disconnect I feel w.r.t. the Might system.

On one hand, you probably want a 'main' element with multiple fleshed out characters just because it's easier to e.g. level dragons and facilities for it, and you're in better shape for soloing/raids and variety/flexibility (healer/support/tank/dps/attack/etc) in coop.

On the other, you want one good character in every element for best practices in coop and coop events.

On top of that, since Might (and specifically with the way content unlocks) wants you to put together a hodgepodge team of your highest numbers, you waste a team slot on an unwieldy team that's virtually useless in raids and suboptimal while soloing, debuffs/buffs/co-abilities aside.

I've basically started using that hodgepodge team as a Coop team where I switch the leader around depending on the element. (RIP Light levels, no dark character leveled) At least get some use out of that team slot since they're so incredibly limited.
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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Spent all this time focusing on my water team I hadn't realized the mixed team I set up with the highest gear has crept up to nearly 11k might. Could probably get to over 12k but I'm saving mats and mana for any potential new units from the Halloween banner. Plus what good is a mixed team with high might since at least one will be at disadvantage?

'Twas a nice surprise unlocking endeavors for team might though. I suggest others dedicate a team slot to min max for might just to complete those endeavors as you level up characters, dragons, weapons, and prints.

Ah, yeah, I always have a team slot that's just there to reflect the max possible might for me. It's a good idea to keep that updated now and then so you can hit those endeavors and unlocks naturally without having to fiddle around as much.

At this point it's basically just my raid team (though the older Verica and not Jurota version) but with mightier off-element dragons and different prints (and they had the 4* weapons I was making before I was actually using them, due to the elemental multiplier). Given that I'd mainly leaned into Verica and Elly in advance to prepare for the raid to begin with, and have grown much much stronger during the course of it while focusing on Celliera and Orsem, that's not all that surprising/bad. They're at about 9.8k while my raid teams are 8.7/8.9/9.5 depending on who's in it and what prints I'm using for the AI.
 

QisTopTier

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've basically started using that hodgepodge team as a Coop team where I switch the leader around depending on the element. (RIP Light levels, no dark character leveled) At least get some use out of that team slot since they're so incredibly limited.
This is what I do as well
 

Moara

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Oct 25, 2017
23,875
What's up with these assholes that just join a lobby and sit there afk not getting ready? Been happening a lot lately.
 

jonjonaug

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Oct 25, 2017
5,676
Yeah, dynamically adjusting Might depending on the situation would definitely help.

The whole point of Might is to simplify, but it's oversimplified in the context of something like this.

I'd imagine at some point that this will start to effect story progression, too.
Might isn't required to play a story mission, for those there is a suggested value but you can ignore it.
 

cw_sasuke

Member
Oct 27, 2017
26,401
Just went for it and got the Beginner bundle. Couldnt get a dupe since i have no 5* so i would have been fine with everything..but i was hoping for Ezelith (come at me lol), Hildegard or Julietta.

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...based RNG. Great start.

I played a bunch yesterday to farm those Yellow orbs for her and the Building Expansions. I should be getting Pele done before the Event....just need more runs this weekend.
 

Chrono

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Oct 25, 2017
21,138
Just went for it and got the Beginner bundle. Couldnt get a dupe since i have no 5* so i would have been fine with everything..but i was hoping for Ezelith (come at me lol), Hildegard or Julietta.

screenshot_20181013-02fdxz.png

...based RNG. Great start.

I played a bunch yesterday to farm those Yellow orbs for her and the Building Expansions. I should be getting Pele done before the Event....just need more runs this weekend.
Nice man, congrats! I really want Julietta, she's definitely the other for the starting 5* I want most (other being Ezelith, who I re-rolled for). If Dragalia Lost come to Canada in a reasonable time-frame I'll purchase the Beginner Bundle, but the longer it takes the less important these characters will be. It's dependent on CyGames right now, I guess.

I hope you're linking this account, I'd hate to see you lose another one after starting over for a second time. :(
 

cw_sasuke

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Oct 27, 2017
26,401
Nice man, congrats! I really want Julietta, she's definitely the other for the starting 5* I want most (other being Ezelith, who I re-rolled for). If Dragalia Lost come to Canada in a reasonable time-frame I'll purchase the Beginner Bundle, but the longer it takes the less important these characters will be. It's dependent on CyGames right now, I guess.

I hope you're linking this account, I'd hate to see you lose another one after starting over for a second time. :(
Thanks man,
yeah this time i switch my account country and linked it up. Purchase + linked account....if something goes wrong in this case i have at least something to present to the customer service if i need to retrieve the account/data.

On my old one i already had three 5* so the chance of a dupe was too high so the beginner bundle wasnt that attractive to me. But if you dont have a single one its pretty great - especially since most of them are useful (they need to fix Hawk/Bow Weapons though).

Are you pulling for the Halloween units ? From what i could gather all three units will be helpful so ill def. try to get at least one with 1-2 multis.
 

Zeno

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,150
Just went for it and got the Beginner bundle. Couldnt get a dupe since i have no 5* so i would have been fine with everything..but i was hoping for Ezelith (come at me lol), Hildegard or Julietta.

screenshot_20181013-02fdxz.png

...based RNG. Great start.

I played a bunch yesterday to farm those Yellow orbs for her and the Building Expansions. I should be getting Pele done before the Event....just need more runs this weekend.
Next event looks like it'll be dark-based,so you should get a lot of use out of her.
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
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I was thinking about it, and Sunlight Stones are nearly useless for my welfare-character only account because I'm never gonna pull, so I'll never get a gacha 5* dragon. It seems like all event dragons will be able to be fully unbound from the event itself as well. As a result, I'm basically done with the raid event since my next reward for Gold emblems is sunlight ore.

In preparation for the Halloween event, I've been working on Luca. The difference between lvl 20 elemental 3* and lvl 50 tier 2 4* is small enough that I'd rather work on getting a lvl 70 tier 2 4* for Luca first as opposed to giving everyone lvl 50 tier 2 4* weapons. My team consists of Luca, Cleo, MC-kun, and Ranzal. My goal is to hit 10K, but I'm more than satisfied with my 9.1K at the moment.


Now that Luca is in the 60's, I can start dedicating exp crystals into Ranzal for some easy stats/Might. While there doesn't seem to be a raid, I've heard rumors about wave-based survival for this event, and I think this rollout is probably best for something like that. Cleo heals are self-explanatory, I think Ranzal Slayer Strength would do well in the situation along with Storm Wall, and MC-kun will basically always by in my Party because of that 10% player exp bonus, which I find invaluable for min-maxing on a F2P account.
 

Chrono

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Oct 25, 2017
21,138
Thanks man,
yeah this time i switch my account country and linked it up. Purchase + linked account....if something goes wrong in this case i have at least something to present to the customer service if i need to retrieve the account/data.

On my old one i already had three 5* so the chance of a dupe was too high so the beginner bundle wasnt that attractive to me. But if you dont have a single one its pretty great - especially since most of them are useful (they need to fix Hawk/Bow Weapons though).

Are you pulling for the Halloween units ? From what i could gather all three units will be helpful so ill def. try to get at least one with 1-2 multis.
Nice, glad to hear you have your account secured this time. Congrats again on the Julietta, she's a great character and incredibly versatile. She'll treat you well.

Yeah, I'm definitely going all out on the Halloween banner. I haven't done any serious pulls yet, other than the two multi-summon vouchers we got as login/endeavor rewards, so I'm sitting on around 15k currency. Since I really need to bolster my character box (I only have Ezelith) , I'll likely be spending it all there and see if luck favors me. I really hope I can manage Halloween Elisanne (I love her character), or (at the very least) get one new 5* character from it all. I'm hoping for the best, planning for the worst, as is the best thing to do when it comes to gacha and their banners.

Best of luck to us both, as well as the rest of us here pulling. Let us hope for a treat, and not so much a trick.
 

Yari

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,323
I got like 200 rolls ready between some of the saved Diamontium and the 15k free currency, and 15 seperate single rolls I got.
But I've done enough rerolling to know that you just need to get really unlucky once and you wont have anything to show for it. Ugh.
 
Oct 27, 2017
3,043
Really want to do some pulls but gotta wait for Halloween. Have 12k saved and only want the dragon and Althemia so hopefully I get them without much trouble
 

Dogo Mojo

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,171
I'm really not sure what I'm going to do for the Halloween event. I only really want Elisanne and even with all my hoarded gems I don't think I'll get her if I pull. I was holding out for a strong light element banner, I never thought the Halloween banner would be light based, but there is only Elisanne and no 5* dragon. Althemia is nice but since Hildegarde is my main character I don't really have a need for her.

Knowing my luck I'd blow my load for Elisanne and then they would do a legit light based banner.
 

Andri

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Mar 20, 2018
6,017
Switzerland
Just beat my first (and most definitely only) special raid.

That was a very nice and satisfying experience, and the loot was great, but i dont think i can do it again.

Anybody know what the next raid/event is gonna be ? I wanna get ready for it right away.
 

Deleted member 9479

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Oct 26, 2017
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Anybody else running in to the opposite problem now where it's super fast to fill a hosted room but I keep getting "no rooms found" when I try to join with wings lol

Sat waiting 5 min to fill a hosted room, fire Euden with sub 3k joined leaving us well Under suggested might for expert, he hit ready and everyone bailed, waited another 5 min, gave up.

Just beat my first (and most definitely only) special raid.

That was a very nice and satisfying experience, and the loot was great, but i dont think i can do it again.

Anybody know what the next raid/event is gonna be ? I wanna get ready for it right away.

Halloween event. https://www.resetera.com/threads/dragalia-lost-ot-perfect-for-mobile.71012/page-92#post-13682354
 
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