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Komii

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It's Nen rubber not physical rubber though. I'm assuming the scientific properties aren't really the same thing. Unless Hisoka licked a whole bunch of rubber balls or some shit to make his nen.
He repeatedly says "it has the properties of both gum and rubber"
He licked rubber balls

Machi gonna be marked with sun and moon, she gonna stich herself onto Hisoka and boom kamikaze attack and there go both of them.

Machi - "Revenge for Shalnark bitch!!!" :P

Shalnark ;—;
 

Komii

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I think he means elastic and sticky, he's a transmuter not a conjurer after all. He can't make actual rubber.
Rubber properties probably include electrical isolation, by your logic if he couldnt make someone that felt like rubber and copy its properties, then killua wouldnt be able to make lightning hurt and transmutter class would be total trash.
I just want Killua to kill Hisoka though.
me too but gon called dibs on him
 

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Interesting he would just randomly put this out in an author comment lol

"I've already decided the structure, and I'll estimate the length according to my experiences, but I'd better apologize in advance. It's far away... I'll do my best."
lol, yeah it's going to be a long (boat)ride
At least he's not gonna compromise on his vision
Exactly, the comment actually puts me at ease a little.
 

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Rubber properties probably include electrical isolation, by your logic if he couldnt make someone that felt like rubber and copy its properties, then killua wouldnt be able to make lightning hurt and transmutter class would be total trash.

me too but gon called dibs on him
Killua has to charge up in order to use electricity, remember? He's had to hit up a plug a couple of times now.
 

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Killua has to charge up in order to use electricity, remember? He's had to hit up a plug a couple of times now.

I figure this is something he figures out how to bypass as he gets older. Maybe something to do with using the natural electrical currents all around him to absorb a thousand minuscule sources and pooling the power. That and as he gets older and stronger he'll no doubt be able to store more electricity for use in battle. Hell I fully expect him to develop an ability where he gets lightning to strike him for a quick overcharge.
 

Komii

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Killua has to charge up in order to use electricity, remember? He's had to hit up a plug a couple of times now.
He doesn't unles he uses up too much aura, i guess he can turn electricity back into aura and aura to electicity at will.

Turned out to be quite convenient as most transmutters won't have the ability to do something like that because of their hatsu choice lol
 

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He doesn't unles he uses up too much aura, i guess he can turn electricity back into aura and aura to electicity at will.

Turned out to be quite convenient as most transmutters won't have the ability to do something like that because of their hatsu choice lol
I think he has to have a little electricity to use his power though. Remember that early on in Greed Island he came right out and said he has to recharge (he also says in during the palace invasion). So I think in order to convert his aura into electricity he has to have some available in like an internal battery. He also says he runs out pretty quick when he explains his ability to Kite, so I think it's safe to presume he does need to have a charge to use his ability. Though, who knows how much of a charge he needs.

I'm not sure about being able to turn electricity into aura though, I'm not sure we can back that up with anything in the manga.
 

Komii

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I think he has to have a little electricity to use his power though. Remember that early on in Greed Island he came right out and said he has to recharge (he also says in during the palace invasion). So I think in order to convert his aura into electricity he has to have some available in like an internal battery. He also says he runs out pretty quick when he explains his ability to Kite, so I think it's safe to presume he does need to have a charge to use his ability. Though, who knows how much of a charge he needs.

I'm not sure about being able to turn electricity into aura though, I'm not sure we can back that up with anything in the manga.
He used the taser before GI to learn the feel electricity has, he doesnt need to charge up, but he can go on for longer if he does
 

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He used the taser before GI to learn the feel lightning has, he doesnt need to charge up, but he can go on for longer if he does
You're right about the taser, but he has said a few times that he does need to charge up and has gone off to do so. Maybe he just expends less aura using his ability if he already has an electrical charge stored up?
 

Komii

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You're right about the taser, but he has said a few times that he does need to charge up and has gone off to do so. Maybe he just expends less aura using his ability if he already has an electrical charge stored up?
I think his actual capacity is pretty low since he's still a bit green... like, maybe he can only keep the electricity up for some minutes or so before having to recharge. The catch is, he CAN recharge, so why not do it?

If he had chosen another power he wouldn't even be able to do so and would have to take a rest... that's why i think he chose a great hatsu, not everyone can recharge aura like he does, like, hisoka can't just chew gun to get more aura back and silva can't blow himself up, killua chose something that can be turned back to the source material.
 

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I think his actual capacity is pretty low since he's still a bit green... like, maybe he can only keep the electricity up for some minutes or so before having to recharge. The catch is, he CAN recharge, so why not do it?

If he had chosen another power he wouldn't even be able to do so and would have to take a rest... that's why i think he chose a great hatsu, not everyone can recharge aura like he does, like, hisoka can't just chew gun to get more aura back and silva can't blow himself up, killua chose something that can be turned back to the source material.
I don't think he recharges aura though, I think he recharges actual electricity. Like a phone battery and uses it to supplement his low aura capacity (that way he doesn't always have to make electricity out of aura).
 

Komii

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I don't think he recharges aura though, I think he recharges actual electricity. Like a phone battery and uses it to supplement his low aura capacity (that way he doesn't always have to make electricity out of aura).
Does that make much difference in his case though?He uses electricity for everything now xD

Point is he can turn his aura into it and he can use borrowed electricity too, and that's broken
 

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Killua is gonna be a monster when he gets to the point that he can turn his aura fully into electricity instead of needing to charge it with real electricity.
 

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Does that make much difference in his case though?He uses electricity for everything now xD

Point is he can turn his aura into it and he can use borrowed electricity too, and that's broken
According to the wiki:
"In order to generate electric aura, Killua needs to "charge" himself by letting electricity run through his body,[112] such as by tasering himself[97] or holding onto a plug,[218] although, by his own admission, it is not very potent and he runs out of it rather quickly.[162] Another inconvenience is that Killua is not aware of exactly how much electric aura he produces, which can result in him depleting his reserves unexpectedly."
I think it means the process of charging up is infusing electricity into his own aura until he decides that he has enough. Only the aura into which he absorbed the electricity can be used for his Hatsu, and once he runs out, he can't make more without recharging. He still can use regular aura for normal nen abilities without any charge but not his Hatsu.
 

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According to the wiki:
"In order to generate electric aura, Killua needs to "charge" himself by letting electricity run through his body,[112] such as by tasering himself[97] or holding onto a plug,[218] although, by his own admission, it is not very potent and he runs out of it rather quickly.[162] Another inconvenience is that Killua is not aware of exactly how much electric aura he produces, which can result in him depleting his reserves unexpectedly."
I think it means the process of charging up is infusing electricity into his own aura until he decides that he has enough. Only the aura into which he absorbed the electricity can be used for his Hatsu, and once he runs out, he can't make more without recharging. He still can use regular aura for normal nen abilities without any charge but not his Hatsu.
Oh I see, since i had to watch/read those bits through fansubs i just assumed he didn't have to go through the hassle of charging up if it was to just do a lil shock >_>, sorry for that, that makes his powers way more limited than i thought
 
Oct 25, 2017
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According to the wiki:
"In order to generate electric aura, Killua needs to "charge" himself by letting electricity run through his body,[112] such as by tasering himself[97] or holding onto a plug,[218] although, by his own admission, it is not very potent and he runs out of it rather quickly.[162] Another inconvenience is that Killua is not aware of exactly how much electric aura he produces, which can result in him depleting his reserves unexpectedly."
I think it means the process of charging up is infusing electricity into his own aura until he decides that he has enough. Only the aura into which he absorbed the electricity can be used for his Hatsu, and once he runs out, he can't make more without recharging. He still can use regular aura for normal nen abilities without any charge but not his Hatsu.
So pretty much your safe unless he has juiced himself up pre battle.
 

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Yeah, I guess he can carry a tazer with him for some quick charge in a pinch. Maybe he should have an external battery connected to his skin at all times :P
I'd presume he's going to carry a battery pack around with him or something when he goes to the Dark Continent.
 

Komii

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This already kind of is a condition. It's versatile enough that he can get around it if he's clever, but still allows him to use his nen ability the way he wants.
You could say that his hatsu making him go through pain is a condition but he never really minded that enough to give a power up too D:
Does make you wonder what would be an adequate condition for a Nen bypass.
i kinda like his hatsu because it's that good without a huge condition, but if he went to a place without electricity he's doomed... also that makes me wonder how did he make it through NGL...(thats kind of why i assumed he didnt need to recharge initially)
 
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i kinda like his hatsu because it's that good without a huge condition, but if he went to a place without electricity he's doomed... also that makes me wonder how did he make it through NGL...(thats kind of why i assumed he didnt need to recharge initially)
I think he only used his hatsu once while inside NGL. It was during the Rammot fight. He killed the mosquito lady with his bare hands.
Most of the other fights were in East Gorteau but he also avoided using electricity while he was being monitored by the dragonfly ant.
 
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i kinda like his hatsu because it's that good without a huge condition, but if he went to a place without electricity he's doomed... also that makes me wonder how did he make it through NGL...(thats kind of why i assumed he didnt need to recharge initially)
Killua isn't exactly weak though. He still has super speed and not everything he does needs to be electricity enhanced, his Hatsu is just that extra special sauce that puts him over the edge.
 

Komii

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Killua isn't exactly weak though. He still has super speed and not everything he does needs to be electricity enhanced, his Hatsu is just that extra special sauce that puts him over the edge.
Yeah, just that kite said so many times to be prepared to fight till death, he went to a terribly disadvantageous situation if thats the condition for the electricity

I think he only used his hatsu once while inside NGL. It was during the Rammot fight. He killed the mosquito lady with his bare hands.
Most of the other fights were in East Gorteau but he also avoided using electricity while he was being monitored by the dragonfly ant.
Figured, i didn't count the times but togashi is low on plot holes iirc

Yeah he was great at fighting before he learned nen. <3 Kil. Can't wait to see how he turns out. In a like nice way, not a creepy Hisoka way.
2030 hxh chapter hype!
 

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Lots of interesting text in this chapter, but it didn't feel like much actually happened. I really wish Togashi would speed this thing up a bit, and also actually get back to focusing on some of the central characters, i.e., Kurapica...

This arc has made nen seem piss easy to learn. 'He is a genius...' proceeds to make massive progress in a few days...Come on...In pretty much anything requiring significant skill you can become an advanced novice in a year. Tserrid has got such an easy ride so far. I feel he is the most predictable part of this arc...To be honest I find Morena much more interesting. Tsserid is a bateman type with plot armour. Maybe Togashi will surprise us and reveal he actually knew nen all along...but I doubt it.
 

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Lots of interesting text in this chapter, but it didn't feel like much actually happened. I really wish Togashi would speed this thing up a bit, and also actually get back to focusing on some of the central characters, i.e., Kurapica...

This arc has made nen seem piss easy to learn. 'He is a genius...' proceeds to make massive progress in a few days...Come on...In pretty much anything requiring significant skill you can become an advanced novice in a year. Tserrid has got such an easy ride so far. I feel he is the most predictable part of this arc...To be honest I find Morena much more interesting. Tsserid is a bateman type with plot armour. Maybe Togashi will surprise us and reveal he actually knew nen all along...but I doubt it.
I mean, he skipped a whole 72 hours not too long ago (though now we've gone back a little less than 24 hours). But see his most recent author comment I posted earlier.

And as for Tserr. and Nen: yeah... as you said, he's a genius. Who else besides him is having an easy time learning Nen this arc?
 
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edo_kid

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So that door at the office leads to the Prince room, makes sense why the guy was trying to get in.
A bunch of info on the Kakin Mafia rules, seems like a war is on the way since Morena is not in her room.
And Murder Horse Prince continues to be the most broken person in nen talent we have seen so far, now with another second beast for him.

Theta zetsu plan is gonna fail so bad.
 
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Tsireid is fucking lying guys. There's no way Benjamin wouldn't have killed him in a millitary accident before now if he is genuinely learning Ben for the first time
 

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This arc has made nen seem piss easy to learn. 'He is a genius...' proceeds to make massive progress in a few days...Come on...In pretty much anything requiring significant skill you can become an advanced novice in a year. Tserrid has got such an easy ride so far. I feel he is the most predictable part of this arc...To be honest I find Morena much more interesting. Tsserid is a bateman type with plot armour. Maybe Togashi will surprise us and reveal he actually knew nen all along...but I doubt it.

This arc? Gon and Killua literally bypassed Zushi year training in a couple of weeks because they were "genius", this is nothing new.
 

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Yeah, I love all the learning Nen stuff. Really makes you get Heavens Arena vibes.
 

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Also while it might seem like a waste of panels i really like all the explanation about the Mafia and its rules, i appreciate the world building aspect of it.
 

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I'm okay with the 4th's genius excuse to quickly build him up to be a threat. It's not great, but I don't mind.
The grunts Kurapika is training still seems to be the average, where they'll be able to only do the basics after two weeks. If they start throwing out hatsu abilities too then... yeah.

Seems like Morena's henchmen have been busy, might see a few more pop up with crazy abilities. The 4th didn't seem too pleased about Morena's absence tho.
I'm ready for that 3-way free for all mafia warfare.
 
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I'm not sure Theta is gonna make it. Her plan is to make a move on the 8th day, Theta is the 8th letter of the Greek alphabet. Terrorsandwich has two nen beasts sheeeee
 

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T. Sandwich's new Nen Beast looks even more intimidating than his original one. Were his men cleaning up dead bodies when we jump back to him? Guess he was testing his new abilities.
 

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Tsireid is fucking lying guys. There's no way Benjamin wouldn't have killed him in a millitary accident before now if he is genuinely learning Ben for the first time

A small part of me believes this as well; that he is a liar and playing everybody by pretending he doesn't know Nen

I also agree with the notion that Theta is going to die
 

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We still need to know if something is aiding Tserriednich's growth or if it's literally just his insane talent. It could also be both. Also worth noting that it could very much well just be his talent because we haven't got any exposition on this yet.

It's insane. We can use the excuse that Adults tend to pick up things faster than Children [besides the very young] but even then his growth is in another tier.
 

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A small part of me believes this as well; that he is a liar and playing everybody by pretending he doesn't know Nen

I also agree with the notion that Theta is going to die
I assume she would have noticed, but this is a possibility.

No way she makes it out though. One of those nen beasts is going to peel her skin off.

We still need to know if something is aiding Tserriednich's growth or if it's literally just his insane talent. It could also be both. Also worth noting that it could very much well just be his talent because we haven't got any exposition on this yet.

It's insane. We can use the excuse that Adults tend to pick up things faster than Children [besides the very young] but even then his growth is in another tier.
The beast from the ceremony might be aiding his growth. He's got a Nen ability already as a result of it, so it might just be making it easier for him to form another one.

Two nen beasts is absolutely bonkers though.