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Edge

A King's Landing
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
21,012
Celle, Germany
Maybe I'm just unlucky but half the time I buy headphones or a PC and the jack or the plug on the headphones itself is busted and doesn't even work.

I can't count the times I've plugged in a headset and only one side works.

Or I get to do the magic barely push it inside the jack maneuver and then I can finally listen to both speakers in my headset.

Or even the, I need to bend the cord in just the correct way to get them both to work.


So say what you will about apple (I don't like them much myself) but getting rid of that jack was a godsend to me and I don't get the love for it. I've had too many break over my 30 years of living to ever want it back.


I've never ever had any of these problems in over 20 years.
What the fuck are you doing?
 

Admiral Woofington

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
14,892
Don't be a cunt. This transition would suddenly make all my headphones useless. I'm not suddenly in 5 years time going to go, ah well. Time to buy a load more new + headphones!
It's like people never considered a proper transition would be to have some device that allows you to externally do the thing we've been doing for years now. But not a single android manufacturer has been able to create a USB C to USB c+ 3.5 mm dongle yet. Sony apparently has one that works only with select phones.

Let's push it on consumers without a mean to not fuck them over. Innovation!
 

Ravelle

Member
Oct 31, 2017
17,805
I never had my jack or plug break, if something breaks it's just one of my earbuds stop working, but nothing ever breaks.
 

Htown

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,320
it's amazing how far people will go to defend their favorite phone company for taking away options from them and making them spend extra money for no good reason
 

T8SC

Member
Oct 28, 2017
908
UK
Stop buying cheap headphones and stop getting fluff/water in your headphone socket. A new device with a 3.5mm jack and new pair of branded (not-cheap-rubbish) headphones will work, or you send them back for a replacement if you're as unlucky as you say you are.
 

killerrin

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,238
Toronto
Don't be a cunt. This transition would suddenly make all my headphones useless. I'm not suddenly in 5 years time going to go, ah well. Time to buy a load more new + headphones!

Why not. 5-10 years tend to be shelf life for 99% pairs of headsets. Either from something better coming out or wear and tear.

For the majority of people that buy dollar store earbuds once an old pair breaks, do you seriously believe the dollar store won't have replacement USB-C ones. Fuck, I can go on amazon right now and buy a couple sub $8 pairs. Which is only marked up because it's Amazon Canada.

Once you have a pair you wont notice the difference. Because once again, it's the transition people are complaining about. Not the technology
 

Tito

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,030
Show me the phone with two USB C ports and we'll talk.
Why do you need two? Ridiculous! My phone charges 70% in half an hour; it never runs out of battery.

3.5mm cables are mostly crap, and the 3.5mm port takes a huge chunk of space inside my phone. People talk like this is a non issue, when it's a huge problem.

For regular music hearing, Bluetooth is more than fine, it's great. For gaming BT sucks, because of sound lag, but a normal USB C headphone is enough.

Any device would be perfect without any ports; but since we must have at least one for charging, using that same port for sound and video is beautiful; and if that port is universal, much better.

You can't charge your phone over 3.5mm; you can listen to music from your USB C port, which is universal.

The 3.5mm port is also notorious for it's bad water resistance.

If a phone a have shitty/cheap DAC; you are screwed, no matter what headphones you buy.
USB C headphones have it's own DAC, so you just have to buy one with a good one and you are set, no matter what phone you connect it to.
 
Oct 25, 2017
26,560
Some people on Era really have to let go of their "well, it doesn't work for me" or "I don't use it, therefore no one needs it" mindset.
 
Oct 27, 2017
12,298
Of all the hot takes I've heard "we should stop using this technology because they've broken a few times for me" is the one that's annoying me the most. How self-centered do you have to be to think that everyone should be restricted from something because you've had a shitty experience with it? Do you think everyone has the same experience as you? Do you think we're all just hiding the secret fact that all headphones jacks are broken and we're just hoping nobody would realize? FOH with that.
 

Richietto

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,993
North Carolina
I wouldn't have a problem with Bluetooth if it wasn't for the price of descent ear buds. As it is they are far more expensive than your typical wired earbuds and that doesn't sit well with me.
 

Admiral Woofington

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
14,892
I have to stay away from this thread because the level of Stanning in here is off the fucking charts. If you want to pretend what your favorite phone manufacturer is doing is for your benefit, keep telling yourself that. If you want to pretend them removing the aux port somehow adds more value to your Bluetooth headphones, keep telling yourself that.

But unless you absolutely have to dive in fucking water to explore the city of Atlantis while listening to your music (which you wouldn't be able to) you are lying to yourself.
 
Oct 26, 2017
6,261
Usb-c made my micro USB cords useless, but I'm much happier than if they stuck with it because it was inferior in every way.

lmao

Why not. 5-10 years tend to be shelf life for 99% pairs of headsets. Either from something better coming out or wear and tear.

For the majority of people that buy dollar store earbuds once an old pair breaks, do you seriously believe the dollar store won't have replacement USB-C ones. Fuck, I can go on amazon right now and buy a couple sub $8 pairs. Which is only marked up because it's Amazon Canada.

Once you have a pair you wont notice the difference. Because once again, it's the transition people are complaining about. Not the technology

Nah. I've got several pairs of decent headphones, one set is about 18 years old. Still excellent. For those of us who don't just spent a few quid on cheap sets (although those have their uses too), sudden obsolescence isn't something to cheer for.
 

DocSeuss

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,784
My earbuds have a tendency to die, but I don't know how to find a set of earbuds with a good cable. I can't think of any 3.5mm port that's died on me in, like... almost a decade. That one died because I was using one of the long, straight plugs, rather than the L-shaped low-profile plugs. No issues since. Earbuds will die in cold weather all the time tho, lol. I need a pair with a thicker cable.

I ~really~ like being able to listen to my earbuds while my phone is charging (not possible with USB C earbuds), and I've never seen a pair of earbuds last longer than a year (got an expensive, fancy pair once and it died faster than my old dumb sony mdrex set).
 
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killerrin

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,238
Toronto
lmao



Nah. I've got several pairs of decent headphones, one set is about 18 years old. Still excellent. For those of us who don't just spent a few quid on cheap sets (although those have their uses too), sudden obsolescence isn't something to cheer for.
Congratulations. You are the 1% of Aux headphone users.

For the vast majority of people, they go cheap or sub $50 and replace it when it breaks or starts acting finicky.
 

Euler007

Member
Jan 10, 2018
5,045
No way man. Every wireless headset I bought over the years are lying somewhere, while I use the wired headset that came with one of my old phone every day at work to listen to podcasts and music. Just not having to recharge them is enough for me.
 

JustinP

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,343
Don't be a cunt. This transition would suddenly make all my headphones useless. I'm not suddenly in 5 years time going to go, ah well. Time to buy a load more new + headphones!
Are you too young to have taken part in a technology transition or are you still rocking VHS?
 

AlteredBeast

Don't Watch the Tape!
Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,766
I have had the same $500 Shure headphones for the last 10 years and they still work flawlessly. Stop buying shit and blaming it on the port.

Stop trying to remove options that the vast, vast, vast majority of the world still uses.
 

Protome

Member
Oct 27, 2017
15,686
Repurchasing my VHS collection on DVD or Bluray had obvious benefits. The quality is better. What benefits are there to removing 3.5? Aside from the smug satisfaction of Apple stans?
Lets not put this solely on Apple stans, most phones are moving away from 3.5 now. Apple started it but everyone is embracing it without actually pushing an equivelant replacement.

You're right though, people would have been pissed if DVDs looked worse than VHSes and cost more.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,812
Remember all the threads and complaints before Apple removed the headphone jack? Me neither.

Maybe Apple's greatest archivement. Creating a problem out of nothing.
 
Oct 27, 2017
7,466
Buys cheap shit and wonders why it keeps breaking and thinks the answer is to get rid of the technology wholesale. Brilliantly thought-out thread.
 
Oct 26, 2017
6,261
Lets not put this solely on Apple stans, most phones are moving away from 3.5 now. Apple started it but everyone is embracing it without actually pushing an equivelant replacement.

You're right though, people would have been pissed if DVDs looked worse than VHSes and cost more.

Apple started it and after the initial backlash Apple stans shifted the narrative along with their beholder that it was a positive, so everyone else is doing the same shit to appease those same idiots. I'll keep blaming the Apple stans as it's just easier.

Congratulations. You are the 1% of Aux headphone users.

For the vast majority of people, they go cheap or sub $50 and replace it when it breaks or starts acting finicky.

Have you got actual receipts for these stats?
 

nib95

Contains No Misinformation on Philly Cheesesteaks
Banned
Oct 28, 2017
18,498
Are you too young to have taken part in a technology transition or are you still rocking VHS?

Pretty inept counter, given DVD was better than VCR and more convenient in pretty much every way, plus it afforded much better quality audio and video.

In contrast, 3.5mm or wired devices still offer by far the best audio quality, can be listened to whilst the phone is still charging without use of adapters, do not need to be charged or do not lose charge, and still cost considerably less.

Wireless devices have been around for a while now, and the reason people like myself still use 3.5mm earphones and headphones over wireless is because we still prefer them. Having a wire is less inconvenient to me than all the rest.
 

criteriondog

I like the chili style
Member
Oct 26, 2017
11,140
I wonder how Samsung fans are going to feel next year if this happens: It's rumored that the S10 will be removing the headphone jack.
 

balohna

Member
Nov 1, 2017
4,176
I've had lots of headphones break as OP describes, but typically only after a year or more using them every day in my pocket (and then tossed in a bag).

I have been buying Bose lately because they last several years instead of one. Last pair of earbuds I replaced was 4 years before one side became touchy.

But I'm happy to have the jack, it's a universal standard. Same headphones for my phone, iPod Classic (still use it), Switch, Vita, 3DS. Maybe one day Bluetooth will be good and cheap enough to replace 3.5mm, but it is super nice to have headphones "just work" on everything and never require a charge.

Never had the jack itself fail though.
 

Htown

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,320
Remember all the threads and complaints before Apple removed the headphone jack? Me neither.

Maybe Apple's greatest archivement. Creating a problem out of nothing.
this is the shit that gets me

nobody anywhere was going " you know what I hate about my phone? that it has this headphone jack"

NOBODY CARED

but suddenly Apple decided to remove them and now "we've always been at war with Eastasia"

you could watch people's brains bend in real time

it's actually sort of fucking disturbing, I'm not going to lie
 

Deleted member 1849

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,986
OP, the cable in your headphones are being damaged. Either through misuse or because you are buying headphones with garbage cables. If by some miracle the jack itself is being damaged then that's totally on you. Those things are tough and I've never seen a single one ever get damaged through normal use.

A simple option is to buy a pair with removable cables. These days there are also IEMs with removable cables too. Don't store them in ways which will put a lot of pressure on certain parts of the cable, and don't do anything stupid like accidentally run your office chair over it.

I will never give up the headphone jack, or my small headphone collection. Especially not when the alternative is DRM.
 
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AlteredBeast

Don't Watch the Tape!
Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,766
I wonder how Samsung fans are going to feel next year if this happens: It's rumored that the S10 will be removing the headphone jack.

I won't buy it, that's for damn sure. I will be upgrading in the next 6 months or so (still have an S8) and will buy whatever the best phone is at the time that still have a jack. I have had both types of headphones for 6 years and have used my wired ones over my bluetooth ones by an order of magnitude, easily.
 

sir_crocodile

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,506
Maybe I'm just unlucky but half the time I buy headphones or a PC and the jack or the plug on the headphones itself is busted and doesn't even work.

I can't count the times I've plugged in a headset and only one side works.

Or I get to do the magic barely push it inside the jack maneuver and then I can finally listen to both speakers in my headset.

Or even the, I need to bend the cord in just the correct way to get them both to work.


So say what you will about apple (I don't like them much myself) but getting rid of that jack was a godsend to me and I don't get the love for it. I've had too many break over my 30 years of living to ever want it back.

How the hell are you breaking the jack. I have never even seen a broken jack in my life and I've dealt with hundred and hundreds of devices that use them.

It is the most robust connector on any mobile phone and you are 100% wrong.
 

Minky

Verified
Oct 27, 2017
481
UK
Switched to Bluetooth headphones 2 years ago and I could never, ever go back to wired. It's soooo convenient just having one pair that automatically syncs up to all my devices and is nice to not be bound by physical ports or cables anymore.
I appreciate the gesture when manufacturers cater for people who still use 3.5mm, buuuut in some specific cases where it's been removed to make room for a cool new hardware feature, I don't take issue with it. There's always adapters or dongles if it's that big of a deal.