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Kotaku: Microsoft finalizing deal to acquire Obsidian Entertainment
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I liked the story well enough, or at least the setting, but yeah the combat ends up feeling a lot slower than Pillars I think.
The real tragedy of Tyranny is it sets up an amazing hook for a sequel that I very much doubt will ever happen.
I can't see IO Interactive being bought out...would be really cool though.
I like some of the ideas in the setting. Edicts are a cool.
Fair enough.
Really wish people didn't spook them off of this system but it's sort of their fault for how they presented and named it. They should bring it back as an "invisible" mechanic.
It did.
They are Don't you worry . Ms is expanding and building new teams within existing studios.
It's hilarious isn't it? Before these acquisitions, the narrative was "Xbox has no exclusives beyond Halo, Gears and Forza". Now people are upset that Microsoft are positioning themselves to deliver on their promise of expanding their gaming portfolio. In order to do so, they are acquiring development studios to create new exclusive IP or work on existing IP not named Halo, Gears and Forza.
It did. Pillar of Eternity 2 didnt though. The first Pillars of Eternity was very successful, but I believe Divinity Original Sin II cut into Pillars of Eternity II sales a lot.
From my understanding Obsidian always had financial issues. Itll be interesting to see what they can do with a big publisher behind them, though I dont think we will see that with their first game they release after being acquired since its been in developement for sometime.
Its actually very realistic that the game they are developing right now will be multiplatform still, similar to how We Happy Few was multiplatform.
And another:
I bought the game last year and have yet to play it. But judging from a multitude of reactions it is a game best played without weeks or months of break in between.
I bought the game last year and have yet to play it. But judging from a multitude of reactions it is a game best played without weeks or months of break in between.
Obsidian didn't make the new South Park.
Last gen THQ had the license, and Obsidian was hired to make Stick of Truth. Midway thru development, THQ filed for bankruptcy, sold the rights to Ubisoft. Ubisoft ended up publishing the game.
For Fractured but Whole, Ubisoft developed the game internally with their own studios, so Obsidian wasn't really involved.
Current MS not same old MS which was under Balmer and Don.
Phill and Satya wants to push game pass hard and they know they need original exclusive content like Netflix to push their services and hardware across all all platforms. You will see by far the best exclusive line up MS ever produced, far surpassing 360 and original Xbox exclusives.
The 2 team idea seems like a great idea not only for Obsidian but other AAA studios under Microsoft. They need both Big and smaller games. Those smaller games don't have to be mainstream yet would fill out Game Pass with variety and diversity.
I also think games like Pillars are great fits for streaming. They'd transfer to touch devices and don't require low latency.
They were struggling to make money as well just like Ninja Theory. Staying independent not easy for all developers .if they agreed to get acquired then they must have good reasons to join MS.
It's not like MS sending goons after them and forcing them to join at gun point. How about you stop being selfish and also think about people working in studio. This may very well give them stability and better future as studio.
MS is quite changed compared to Balmer days.
I think a lot of people don't realize this. Nadella's vision is completely different from Balmer's, and with the full support of Microsoft he's given to Xbox, the position he's put Phil in, Matt Booty, the company and gaming division are vastly different from what they were a few years ago.
Doesn't mean they can't do anything wrong, nor does it mean they don't have things to fix, but the mentality, culture, and management are different from 2013.
I think caution is fine, but I also think its important to acknowlede a Microsoft under Balmer isn't the same as the Microsoft under Nadella.
Well, the only significant change we can see from the outside is that they are buying game development studios now instead of buying exclusive rights for games made by independent studios. I'm not sure which one is better for the gamers.
It's a massive shift and investment. I honestly cannot work out if you're joking or not.
One game although it usually meant many games, as we've seen with Remedy and Playground.
The only? lol
This is great news for current and potential Xbox owners and it's terrible news for people who will never purchase an Xbox. It's as simple as that.
I don't trust Microsoft, never have and never will. Them buying Obsidian is good for Obsidian but I probably won't ever buy a game of them again because I fully expect their new games to only release on XBox and Win10.
Wait, people still go with that tripe E thing? Well, let me counter with such a sentence:
'This is not your fathers Microsoft'
No, it is the Microsoft I grew up with :)
The people happy about this acquisition ITT are mostly people on XBox. And I get why, I really do. But the Microsoft of the PC space is an abomination and I don't want to use their products or engage with their stuff.
I do not own an Xbox tho. I'm someone who grew up with Age of Empires. And I'm in full support of their current plans. Bringing games to more people, make them more available and getting people to know different genres and IP's through Gamepass. I agree that their current implementation of pc gaming doesn't deserve any award, but I'm happy that they are doing it. My most fun in gaming this year has been from Microsoft games.
To be honest, I understand why people don't like Microsoft. It's the big bad corporation who can't seem to do anything right. They've made a terrible pc gaming platform twice and they are the only of the big three pushing hard for a GaaS future. So at an enthusiast board as resetERA they will never be popular.
But hey, I've been playing Age of Empires, Sea of Thieves and Forza on my pc this year. Experiences that no other company has given me.
So what is your stance on Vulkan vs DX12? What do you think of proprietary file formats that are only usable with Microsoft products? What about Win10S?
I'm not talking about gaming stuff here btw but it seems you want to narrow it down to that space.
What I don't get is MS are now one of the most socially responsible corporations in the world.
Second only behind google.
They've just made a device that they lose money on that helps people with disabilities play games.
They are in this regard streets ahead of the other companies involved in gaming. Yet it is the same old, same old.
This is a different Microsoft to a decade or even five years ago, whether some people want to hold a grudge for past behaviours is entirely on them and no one else.
They are still a business. I agree that in a perfect world, Microsoft would support every open standard. They would support Vulkan instead of DX12, they would use standardized file formats, etc.
Don't have a problem with Windows 10 with S mode. As long as UWP applications can be downloaded from other sources than the MS Store.
Narrowing it down to games was because.. well this is a gaming forum. I don't think anyone needs to champion a global corporation as Microsoft, nobody has to be one-man marketing department and we don't have to appreciate everything they do. (Hell, some stuff they've done in the past is inexcusable) but I support products I like and I've got great confidence in their current leadership. I truly think Satya Nadella is an inspiring person.
Then your choosing not to see the sweeping changes already made. Its a completely different MS.
- Xbox X/S, dropped generation console cycles
- Gamepass <--- Gamechanger
- Play Anywhere
- BC (free enhanced upgrades)
- Opened up XBL, crossplay
- Accessibility/Elite controller
- Removal of Kinnect
- Pushback on TV (refocus OS in particular back to gaming)
- Huge investment into 1st party
- Investment on Xbox game streaming platform
You cannot with a straight face deny the changes in place or in motion from Satya/Phil MS, its a different more progressive Xbox then Balmer/Mattrik Xbox division. Xbox as a product was elevated by Satya internally, they are a core part of their strategy for the first time.
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It's funny you mention proprietary formats, just a couple of days after MS announced they're joining OIN, open-sourcing 60,000 of their patents in the process.
Can they though? Actually curious because every PR I've read says you can only get UWP stuff by using their storefront (or their downloadcards they are selling at exorbitant prices in brick and mortar stores).
And your first point nails it. They are still a business and I get that their best interests don't always align with the best interests of their (possible) consumers. I'm not willing to look past their egregious dealings in the past & present. It is the same reason I don't buy Apple products and avoid Google every time I can.
But I don't begrudge anyone that does. It is their choice after all.
I won't be able to play their games anymore because I won't support Microsofts attempt of a walled garden with their storefront and because I don't use Windows I'm shit out of luck anyway.
That is a step in the right direction but they don't actually open sourced all their patents (e.g. not for Windows ;)) and they are only open source to members of OIN. Namely Google, IBM, RedHat, Suse, Sony, NEC, Philips and Toyota. Not you and me.
I know that they are a socially very responsible company. They do great stuff in psychological research. But that doesn't exclude that they want to maximize profit by locking down their OS or developing proprietary software that is only available on their OS.
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Well, try to be realistic. That's like complaining that Google haven't open-sourced all their searching/ranking algorithms. We're still talking about for-profit corporations here.
I don't think that has much bearing on the point that other posters and I are making. The point being that MS have massively changed for the better, and certainly are not the MS you grew up with. Ballmer's MS would never do something like join the OIN.
Yes, have been able to for awhile now. (no one makes uwps though so no one cares) .
A new open source installer was also recently introduced called MSIX though. For every application type. Makes it even easier to install from different sources.
You might be thinking of Creative Assembly. Who are under Sega.
Certain Affinity basically started kind of as a Bungie off shoot if memory serves and started life doing multiplayer stuff for Halo.
I'm just curious if you don't support Apple, MS, and Google what do you use for a phone?
Your POV on how companies should do business is unrealistic.
I don't think you can expect a company like Google or Microsoft to be the company you would like them to be. In a perfect world they would be like that, but that just isn't going to happen. And you don't have to buy anything, but I hope you support Obsidian IF they do make a new crpg. They deserve that.
So let me get this straight, the 2nd most socially responsible in the world, probably the fairest employer in the games industry, is in your bad books because it tries to maximise profit within their core business?
I hate to tell this to you, but you're limiting yourself to never buying a product from any global corporation in existence. Certainly not Apple, Sony, Nintendo, IBM etc etc with this stance. Or am I understanding correctly that you just apply it selectively to suit an outdated argument that makes no sense? Yes?
But that's besides the point. I'm leaving this thread now. There are enough people to discuss these things with reasonably (as can be seen above) but I don't want to bother with these drive-by posts anymore and don't get why people get so aggressive when I just admit that I really don't like Microsoft and similar companies for how they conduct their business. This and this was already under Nadella e.g.
And I might be idealistic but I'm just not cynical enough at this point to give up on my principles.
I will if their new games come out on other platforms than the Win10 store - I don't use Win10 anymore and won't install it just for a handful of games and I don't see myself buying a Scarlet system or any other console in the future. Maybe their streaming tech turns out good (I'm actually doubtful at this point, just because infrastructure is too bad at the moment) and I will be able to play it from Linux.
And I might be idealistic but I'm just not cynical enough at this point to give up on my principles.
Agreed. But their PC efforts are still designed by the "old" Microsoft. The Windows Store + UWP combo is even worse than GFWL, so it's very understandable that PC gamers aren't too happy with this acquisition.
I strongly disagree with this. It is Obsidians choice to be bought by Microsoft. They know all they upcoming games are gonna be locked to UWP and the Windows Store. If someone doesn't like this ecosystem, it makes no sense to support it anyway because they like Obsidian. This will only lead to more PC-focused devs being bought and restricted to UWP and the Windows Store.
Understandable. Hope Microsoft will change its pc gaming plans so more people can use it or want to use it. Hope to see you in a match of Age of Empires in the future ;)
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