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Dunkey Creed: Odyssey
- Thread starter jaksek
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Yeah that's the root of my problem with this game, other than the stealth being really bad.
absolutely. i wasn't interested in the game so i never entered any thread about it, but reading the topic titles it was obvious there's stuff wrong with the grind and MTX and stuff, so coming here and seeing there are people actually defending those aspects or the game in general and getting mad at a comedy video is kinda mind blowing.
I was watching a stream of this to see what was up with the game and the people just started watching animals eat a giant watermelon. A viewer asked what did he walk in on and the streamer said they got bored, animals eating watermelons was better. https://youtu.be/lV0T0hF-6Y4?t=2911
Here he expresses that he really want to like the game, Ubisoft has be very nice to him, sent them a house warming gift, but he bought the copy of the game. https://youtu.be/lV0T0hF-6Y4?t=3312
I hope people mod the game up, it won't be Skyrim level but it could help. Also I'm not a fan of Donkey.
Here he expresses that he really want to like the game, Ubisoft has be very nice to him, sent them a house warming gift, but he bought the copy of the game. https://youtu.be/lV0T0hF-6Y4?t=3312
I hope people mod the game up, it won't be Skyrim level but it could help. Also I'm not a fan of Donkey.
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I think you're ignoring that the so-called "grind" is more or less people playing an RPG and not wanting it to be an RPG. They are conflating their dislike of microtransactions with a design trait found in most of the game's open world RPG contemporaries. AC: Black Flag gated story progression behind ship upgrades, and sold ship upgrades for real money, and that game was not "crucified", was it?
I have not played the game and have only listened to and read reviews and impressions.
I don't feel that the game is bad. I don't feel that the game is amazing either. I also don't feel that the paywall seems that bad. The only thing I feel bad about are the reviewers who had to crunch 100+ mandatory hours into an okay game in order to get their review out in time for consumers.
I don't feel that the game is bad. I don't feel that the game is amazing either. I also don't feel that the paywall seems that bad. The only thing I feel bad about are the reviewers who had to crunch 100+ mandatory hours into an okay game in order to get their review out in time for consumers.
In 3 threads out of 4? Oh, I'm sorry, I got you figured COMPLETELY wrong.
Also, you're not shitting on the game, just spreading and supporting FUD fabricated by scandal-mongers and people who haven't played the game (such as yourself) who somehow feel qualified to lecture those with actual first-hand experience on how terribly grindy and greedy it is?
Yes, that's not crazy or biased at all. It seems I owe you my most sincere apology.
(lol)
Or how about he's not and you stop regurgigating everything you read on Era? Yes he used the F-word over a year ago, it was discussed to death even at the old place, to my knowledge he hasn't used it since.
Could you link me to something where he uses the N-word? Please?
Is it just Assassin's Creed Odessey that has brought it out in people? There's been at least four topics on Resetera this past week that I see the same people come out and attack anybody who has any criticism for the game. It's wild. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but does Ubisoft pay people to post on forums and do damage control? That's the extent that I'm bewildered by it.
Maybe I'm oblivious to this extreme defense force in other topics but I haven't seen anything to this level on the old days of gaf or anything else on resetera. I just don't get it.
But behind the shitty clunky combat , the pay to win xp boosts, and bugs and glitches exists a midling open world game that came out two weeks before red dead redemption
I lost it at this part.
I lost it at this part.
There should be a thread about the number of people making defense force posts and suggesting that negative opinions aren't welcome here or that theyre memes because I agree, theres some weird anti criticism movement that exists here where people either just can't handle a game they like being talked about in a way they dont agree with. I really hope we dont have industry people here stealth posting in defense of shit here, that would be absurd.
I think part of the problem is that it seems to be banking on that "RPG" comparison to forgive the fact that most of the side content isn't good enough to be worth doing at all. So instead they force players to do it just to progress, which breeds even further discontent with said side content.
If the sidequests were all really good nobody would complain. But a lot of them are really, really dull and generic.
People love Tales of Vesperia despite the game literally selling level ups, and that was 10 years ago lol
You can buy a jump potion in the similarly loved (and still subscription based+buy to play) Final Fantasy XIV to jump straight to 50 or 60 and skip entire storylines.
Pretty sure there was a DLC mission in Fire Emblem: Awakening that was sold to make grinding easy. It was even called "EXPonential Growth"!
Black Ops IIII will probably be the talk of the town next week anyway, just give it a couple more days.
either post proof that he's a racist, or take several seats.
About Dunkey: he does occasionally proper reviews and while he clearly magnifies the bugs part, I don't think his comment about MTX or grinding should be took as a joke. He does mixes this duality of joke reviewer while bringing proper points into it.
Well of course you don't like it, lol. You like Eden were part of the "some users". My comment to him was sarcasm and I have absolutely nothing against AC: Odyssey as I haven't play it, just found his comment a little ironic in a funny way.
AC:Origins and Odyssey have these nuances too. The AI in general is quite sensitive depending on context. For example, depending on the distance and the player's build assassinations make a sound that can be detected by other guards. Footsteps make different sounds depending on the materia the player is standing on, the stance, and speed. Enemies are programmed to turn around if the player gets too close where before they'd stay facing away forever. Then you also factor in the systemic behaviors of the guards affected by always having a task to do,
-work
-eat
-sleep
-train
-use the bathroom
-clean
-socialize
Etc. etc
. Origins and Odyssey have fantastically designed AI that like any other stealth game, can be exploited. The idea that you can't play them as stealth games is so transparently misinformed. BUt the thing is, people don't wanna actually discuss the finer nuances of the game's design, especially those that haven't played it. It's so much easier to just turn one's brain off and make long rants about how bad it is.
The horrible Odysessy takes continue. It's almost like someone is paying people to just continuously shit on the game. The harping over the grind is such a made-up problem.
Given the majority of reviewers that scored the game gave it an 84 or over I'd say they don't feel so bad about it. It's a big game (I doubt many if any spent 100+ hours on it though) so it will have been tough to meet deadlines but their reviews are indicative of the game being more than "okay".
Odyssey is the VENOM of video games except the game actually god great reviews even from hardcore dudes like ACG
As you can read in previous pages, he's been caught faking bugs that don't even exist.
From what I've read, many of the side missions aren't really side missions at all - they're directly related to the main story threads, rather than being "hey go over here do this random shit", so they seem as if they're basically main story stuff by proxy.
It strikes me a bit of "I have to actually play the game to progress?" if that's true. Which I assume it is, as the only people pushing that the MTX and grind are obnoxious seems to be people known for being a bit... clickbaity.
I still don't think they should be in the game, but much like Deus Ex MD they strike me from description as being bolted on rather than being pushed heavily in the main game. And then there's Dunkey, who's known to deliberately play games badly and break things then use that footage as if it's representative of a game.
It strikes me a bit of "I have to actually play the game to progress?" if that's true. Which I assume it is, as the only people pushing that the MTX and grind are obnoxious seems to be people known for being a bit... clickbaity.
I still don't think they should be in the game, but much like Deus Ex MD they strike me from description as being bolted on rather than being pushed heavily in the main game. And then there's Dunkey, who's known to deliberately play games badly and break things then use that footage as if it's representative of a game.
If you think this is the same scenario as for example PewdiePie using the term as an actual insult towards other people I can't help you. Maybe he's dumb and uneducated about how he enables actual assholes using it, but I would never label him a racist because of that example you posted.
I'm about 30 hours into the game and I pretty much agree with his general thoughts. I really don't like the main characters either, both of them are really obnoxious. It feels like the store stuff really does negatively affect the game.
The fact that people are bitching about this nonexistent grind because they just want to rush the story beats is dumb as hell. If you were to play the main missions interspersed with side missions and activities, you will literally never run into a wall.
I'm 20 hours in and have always been on level or overlevelled. Despite people dismissing it as a valid excuse, the game is an RPG. Doing side activities and exploring are core designs of the genre.
I'm 20 hours in and have always been on level or overlevelled. Despite people dismissing it as a valid excuse, the game is an RPG. Doing side activities and exploring are core designs of the genre.
Have you never played a Bioware RPG before? KOTOR? Dragon Age? Because there is nothing unusual about stealth attacks giving enemies a critical hit but not necessarily killing them if player stats weren't high enough.
I've seen much bigger much more important threads burn down over posts like this, I'm not saying my thoughts but just saying tread carefully.
You asked for the source, I gave it.
I honestly think it would benefit games tremendously to cut some of the bloat, unless they actually have meaningful material/gameplay to support a 40+ hour experience.
It would make the pace so much better, meaning a game would feel less boring especially on the second half. I'd imagine it would also decrease dev costs. I also think it is one of the reasons we have such a low completion rate in games.
I know is easier said than done, but I hope we see tighter experiences in the future. I haven't play it yet, but one of the selling points of the new spiderman to me was hearing how its a 18-20 hour game.
Because "we want our game to last you two years but we also want to release the sequel a year into that".
Yeah, this is a pretty fair criticism to be honest. I think part of the reason I let the Assassins Creed games get away with it is because they're set in locations that are rarely used in media, so I don't mind running around and doing some of the more repetitive tasks, because at some point you're going to bump in to some pretty cool sights you won't see in other games. If it were a generic fantasy setting, then I think I'd be far less inclined to stick with it. But I can understand how someone less invested in the historical tourism side of things could get worn out by running around towns delivering medicine or whatever.
Guess he points out what I most criticised Originis for, it's a 20 hour videogame turned somehow into a 80 hour videogame. It's a shame because the Greek setting really interested me but I despised how bloated and repetitive Origins was. Maybe for a good price I'll give it a try.
Could we have a clear stance on the whole "Dunkey is homophobic and a racist" nonsense please? Either he gets an Era-wide ban or people should stop derailing every single thread Dunkey is even remotely part of. I personally would find it a shame if he gets banned, but this constant derailing with half truths and over-exaggerations is getting annoying as hell.
Saying the n-word if you're white is racist even in a song, yes. He made that video and put that song in.