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woopWOOP

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Siblings and cousins really enjoyed Friends but I could never sit through a single episode because Chandler sucks so much
 
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One Winged Slayer
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Harley Quinn makes is an easy way to turn me off from anything Batman related

It's everything Batman related now, if not DC Universe related. And I blame the lack of restraint on DC's marketing team than Harley Quinn herself...they clearly don't have a handle on what her personality is at this point (is she Joker's tragic victim? His equal? Does she murder children or save the day with her fellow Superheroine BFFs?), so they decide to just make her everything and put her everywhere.

You're going to get a Wonder Woman and Harley Quinn movie. Be prepared for that.

Why is she acting like a shy 12 year old in front of their crush instead of an Adult Woman in front of her Husband who it appears she's had a child with!?

Like many manga authors, the writer has absolutely no idea how a husband and wife should act.

Though I think I've read some takes that suggest that characters have to be written as "available" even when they aren't, because the self-insert fans will rage.

I'm terrified to find out if that's true and yet I would absolutely believe that.
 

Lotus

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All of them.

There's only so much fuckery and regurgitation I can tolerate on an episodic basis.

Oh god this. Especially Cookie, who used to be everyone's favorite, but I don't think people fuck w/ her like that these days since each season is the same ol' shit of being this mega ultra ride or die for her shitty ex-husband.

I agree with this. The "lovable pervert" trope wasn't funny when I was eight and seeing it in the form of Roshi from Dragon Ball, it sure as hell ain't funny now.

He ain't even lovable lol
 

Night Hunter

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Ziggy Sobotka from The Wire.
There are always people saying Ziggy in these threads, and yet again I am faced with the question if people can't distinguish between actually unlikeable characters and characters they are not supposed to like in the first place.

The other one that always rubs me wrong is people saying Skyler. A character that is a foil to your main character is not immediately bad, especially if your main character is a fucking monster. Gilligan really did a number on people by making the bad guy the MC.
 

DJ_Lae

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I forgot to mention Moriarty from Sherlock after my mind immediately jumped to Connor from Angel the other day.

I know he showed up in the most charismatic baddies thread recently, although I still cannot understand why. His character is obnoxious and overacted and once he pops up it sours what was previously an enjoyable show. And of course, he overstays his welcome.

There was probably a way to not make the character terrible but that didn't happen.
 
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One Winged Slayer
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Sanji, from One Piece.

I find his constant womanizing worse than Mineta, because any time it looks like Sanji is going to have a deep, commited relationship with someone, he immediately gushes blood out of his nose over the next lady he comes across. If they were ever going to have him end up with Nami or Robin it would feel super un-earned considering how quickly he falls for the next eye candy.

I also generally don't like when two characters are constantly at each other's throats. It really doesn't make sense that he and Zoro are always butting heads, unless it's because Sanji feels his manhood being threatened over the clearly stronger Zoro (Sanji's no slouch in combat but he could never hope to achieve half of the crazy shit Zoro has pulled).
 

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April Ludgate from Parks & Rec. Most every other character has some sort of depth or development but April stays with this face and attitude the entire show. It got old after 10 episodes and doesn't let up.
 

ibyea

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Liz Keen in The Blacklist. She is a fucking idiot who constantly makes terrible decisions and likes to zig zag loyalties at the drop of a hat as soon as she finds out that person is blood related. Somehow characters in the show think she is a good person even though she isn't.
 
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Re: Todd from Bojack Horseman.

It's not so much the character that I have a problem with, but the extended gags they use him for. The reason for that is simple: the show isn't funny.

Sure, it gives me the occasional smirk here and there, but I think that's how it SHOULD be: light moments to ease up the soul-crushing existential moments. The attempts to dial the humor to 11 rarely land, which is why Todd is at his best when he's coming to terms with himself and the people around him.
 

Lotus

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because any time it looks like Sanji is going to have a deep, commited relationship with someone

It has never looked like that, he's always been consistently girl-crazy since Day 1, it's just that even he knows when to be serious.

It really doesn't make sense that he and Zoro are always butting heads

Why doesn't it? Just think of them as brothers that generally know how to get on each other nerves.

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Also Zoro has moments where he has been just as insecure over who's stronger lol

Liz Keen in The Blacklist. She is a fucking idiot who constantly makes terrible decisions and likes to zig zag loyalties at the drop of a hat as soon as she finds out that person is blood related. Somehow characters in the show think she is a good person even though she isn't.

I haven't seen this show in forever, but I remember being hella annoyed with her all the time
 
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Redfox088

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I find his constant womanizing worse than Mineta, because any time it looks like Sanji is going to have a deep, commited relationship with someone, he immediately gushes blood out of his nose over the next lady he comes across. If they were ever going to have him end up with Nami or Robin it would feel super un-earned considering how quickly he falls for the next eye candy.

I also generally don't like when two characters are constantly at each other's throats. It really doesn't make sense that he and Zoro are always butting heads, unless it's because Sanji feels his manhood being threatened over the clearly stronger Zoro (Sanji's no slouch in combat but he could never hope to achieve half of the crazy shit Zoro has pulled).
I mean as a man who works at hooters though this may signify a weak character it is also very very realistic sadly.
 

kswiston

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Oct 24, 2017
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I don't know if it is the same for the show, but by the end of the book, The Magicians, I was so thoroughly sick of Quintin and his bullshit that I just could not bring myself to continue. He is like the Shinji Ikari of that world except that he has no reason to be as depressed and spiteful as he is, and
having to watch him make bad choice after bad choice during the last third of the book just to satisfy his purely selfish whims was just more annoying than anything else.

I had the same reaction and dropped the series after book 1 for the same reason. I sort of liked the first half. But by the end? No thank you.
 

Leo

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I find his constant womanizing worse than Mineta, because any time it looks like Sanji is going to have a deep, commited relationship with someone, he immediately gushes blood out of his nose over the next lady he comes across. If they were ever going to have him end up with Nami or Robin it would feel super un-earned considering how quickly he falls for the next eye candy.

I also generally don't like when two characters are constantly at each other's throats. It really doesn't make sense that he and Zoro are always butting heads, unless it's because Sanji feels his manhood being threatened over the clearly stronger Zoro (Sanji's no slouch in combat but he could never hope to achieve half of the crazy shit Zoro has pulled).

Yeah, basically all of his character traits are trash.

He treats his teammates like garbage (except for the women, who he treats as objects), and his constant bitching with Zoro is a pain in the ass. This is not to mention his "i dont hit women but only if theyre pretty" bullshit. He's a very problematic character overall and there's nothing interesting about him to make up for it.

Sometimes I wonder if he even likes being part of the group, I wish he would just leave since his is so pissed about everything all the time.
 

Lotus

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and his constant bitching with Zoro is a pain in the ass. This is not to mention his "i dont hit women but only if theyre pretty" bullshit..

Again, Zoro engages in it too, it takes two to tango. And he doesn't hit them regardless of their appearance... And if your rebuttal is what I think it will be, that was a block. Sanji is definitely problematic, but what you just said is easily refutable.

Sometimes I wonder if he even likes being part of the group, I wish he would just leave since his is so pissed about everything all the time.

He clearly does lol
 
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I stopped watching Matt Smith Doctor Who in part because I really didn't like Amy Pond. I couldn't put my finger on exactly what it was about her I didn't like, but the fact that the first time she meets him as an adult and she tries to sleep with him on the eve of her wedding really got me off on the wrong foot.
 

TheUnseenTheUnheard

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May 25, 2018
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Aldnoah Zero is an awful anime with a nonsensical plot, but what really irked me the most was one of the protagonists. I mean, somehow a group of humans managed to populate Mars and then, years later, after developing faster than the humans of Earth, they return to the planet after faking an assassination, to kill all humans on Earth. Their vehicles are so advanced that most of the armies on the planet are getting obliterated. Until someone appears:

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Say hello to Inaho Kaizuka, a high school student who somehow, with the inferior Earth equipment, can destroy the armies of Mars. Not only that, he can also lead and do many tactics that more experienced people can't. On top of that, he also gets the Martian princess to fall in love with him. And his personality is as static as a machine. Fuck him, completely ruined the anime for me.

And then he survives after being shot at point blank. And on top of that, he gets a mechanical eye that makes him more OP.
This guy is even worse than Kirito.
It truly was shit. I feel like most anime without source material is shit.
 
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Most of the people on Voyager were bad, I credit a lot to the writing and direction of Star Trek at the time. Even the Doctor could be insufferable when he went on his morality speeches.

I don't tend to hate on characters much but probably the one that got to me the last few years was Clara from Doctor Who. Another special companion who was mysterious and perfect and ugh it had been done. She over stayed her welcome by far and the character was never as good as the Victorian version that had showed up. When Smith regenerates Amy showing up again even if only in the Doctors mind had far more presence and importance than Clara.
 

Kaze13

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And she could have simply been turned down three or four degrees. The original Dr. Smith was sneaky and underhanded but the series gave him multiple opportunities at mild redemption and he added a note of doubt and suspicion and sometimes he'd do slightly altruistic things. The new one was always Turned Up to 11, all the time and there was never any doubt. Ever.

so fucking true and none of her motivations were believable. She was there to simply fuck shit up.
 

Stinkles

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Oct 25, 2017
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so fucking true and none of her motivations were believable. She was there to simply fuck shit up.

Which when done well, is fantastic. Take Anton Chugur - trebly a force of nature. The element of chaos and danger that (usually) can't be stopped. As inevitable as a hurricane. That said, the real story in No Country For Old Men is how a psychopathic force of nature who has never lost, is defeated twice - first by a husband who outsmarted and outfought him, and then his wife destroyed his legend by being brave enough and intelligent enough to make him face his pathetic bullshit ethos. Her husband humiliated and possibly crippled him. But she exposed him. She scribbled out the internal legend he had written for himself.
 

Loxley

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Rita from Dexter

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Her entire purpose basically felt like it was built around slowing down/delaying the main plot in order to milk out the season. Every time she showed up I basically groaned and thought "oh great here comes Rita to ruin the pace of the show"

I'd forgotten how bad she was. "Serious Rita" became this sort of meme between my girlfriend and I at the time. Every time she scolded Dexter over something (which seemed to happen every other episode in Season 3 and 4) she would drop her voice and speak...very...slowly. We started to laugh every time it happened.
 
yeah I really don't see how you can complain about Sanji stuff with Zoro, yet completely ignore Zoro is an active participates and instigates the shit just as much if not more then Sanji.

Well just in Zou he overcompensate his own worth when Luffy said Sanji was worth 1000 men.

Really weird disconnect.
 

Tanerian

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This is Skyler White from Breaking Bad in case anyone was wondering.

Also this is a bad take since 1) Skyler's criticisms of Walter are completely reasonable and justifiable, because Walter's problems and insecurities are largely self-inflicted and that is the point, 2) She is actually better at being a criminal in key ways since she actually knows how to keep a low profile and doesn't get dragged into the dick-measuring people like Walt and Ted get caught up in, and 3) She does all of this while being pregnant, raising an infant, raising a son with a physical disability, and keeping the finances on lock while Walt gets himself trapped in cat-and-mouse games with drug lords or concocting risky heists. The reason she comes off as annoying to so many fans is that we're meant to sympathize with Walt's plight so that, over time, the reveal that he is actually a monster and embodies several of the worst traits of toxic masculinity can build up and pull the rug out from under the audience. Problem is a lot of fans either didn't get there and got stuck on "Oh man Heisenberg is a badass!" or they can't get over the actor's performance, which while deliberate in terms of character doesn't change the fact that Skyler is almost always in the right and Walt in the wrong.

While I found her character largely annoying, you're not wrong. Honest Trailers put it best. At first you wish she'd go away, by the end you wish she'd GET away.
 

Tanerian

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Skyler in Breaking bad
Goku in all post-Freiza DBZ
Bullock in Deadwood
The main cast in Star Trek Discovery

I enjoyed Goku until Cell Saga. Wish he'd have stayed dead there. But otherwise agree!

The main cast of Discovery didn't ruin the show for me. The show being bad ruined it =p

BULLOCK!?!?!? The everloving fuck? He's so damn good =p
 

DavidDesu

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Oct 29, 2017
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Seinfeld.

Though unsure if the character of Seinfeld or just the terrible acting of Seinfeld.

He's terrible at delivering his lines in any convincing way, he breaks character and smirks a lot at what he's saying... The show would be so much better if he wasn't so terrible an actor and played his role convincingly.

He's a billionaire and everyone loves it .. so I'm sure he doesn't care.
 

Qikz

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Rose, Martha and Amy from New Doctor Who. I couldn't stand how their biggest schtick was that they clearly wanted to get in bed with the doctor and it made their characters so awful.

Donna and subsequently Bill are the best characters from new who companion wise. Donna even gave us Wilf.
 

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April Ludgate from Parks & Rec. Most every other character has some sort of depth or development but April stays with this face and attitude the entire show. It got old after 10 episodes and doesn't let up.
Uh, she has plenty of development what
 

PuppetMinion

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Nov 1, 2017
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Geez, at the female to male ratio in this thread. Is it 80 to 20%?

I can't really recall any single character that made me stop watching something.
 

ahoyhoy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hey, you're supposed to hate Ziggy. If he ruins the series for you, you missed out on not only the joy of Season 2, but two of the other best seasons of any show ever, 3 and 4.

Yep.

The beauty of the docks, like the rest of the show, is that basically none of the characters are 100% likable. Frank has no compunctions about working with terrible people to save his clearly dying industry, and Nick is a smooth operator but is cool with crime and is pretty racist.

Ziggy is mildly intelligent but doesn't fit into the world he's in and tries and fails to earn respect in all the wrong ways. Plus he has daddy/mommy issues and lives in his cousin's/brother's shadows.
 

Ignatz Mouse

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Everyone hates that episode, but I liked it. It was a nice contrast, with how terrible cities were in the '80s compared to the suburbs, and a good expansion of how far this thing went.

I liked this episode, but I did find it laughable that based on the skyline, the part of the city they were in was in the middle of Lake Michigan.

They just took a nice from-the-Lake skyline image and digitally added it to the background.
 

Charpunk

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Oct 25, 2017
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Felicity on Arrow completely made me stop watching the show. It's the only time I've stopped watching a show due to one terrible character.
 

John Dunbar

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She was extremely annoying but in a cast full of annoying characters she isnt even top 5. And the crown definitely goes to Piper, who is one of the most annoying central characters of all times. Piper was so bad they actually had to shift the focus of the whole show to be more about everybody instead of just about her.
the show itself became a lot worse as it focused less on piper, so eh.
 

adrem007

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Fish Mooney encounter with Penguin in that one episode when he doesn't kill her for whatever reason made me drop Gotham