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Putty

Double Eleven
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
931
Middlesbrough
And there we go...Clearly the 26% down on physical sales was made up digital. Great to hear as it really is a belting release and after 20 hrs or so, the similarities to Origins become less and less.
 

Manta_Breh

Member
May 16, 2018
2,539
BUT IT LOOKS JUST LIKE ORIGINS



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TALENT ALWAYS WIN

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Cringiest post of 2018... You won it.



Great game, but it still needs a lot of work and tightening up.
 

SofNascimento

cursed
Member
Oct 28, 2017
21,345
São Paulo - Brazil
I don't understand those who wants Rome
I want Italy, not just one city

The thing is that the city of Rome is just too masive, too prominent. Athens in comparison was a village, and Alexandria although a massive city in its own right, doesn't carry the same weight as Rome. So I believe that if Ubisoft decided to make a game in Italy in the 4th century AD (which would be my choice) they should start to design the map by building the city of Rome 1:1, they have the know-how, talent and tools to literally recreate the ancient city in its full glory. After that is done they should decide how to handle the countryside. Personally I'd say a hub oriented design like TW3 would work more for this game than the 'recreate an entire region in one hugh map'.
 

Linus815

Member
Oct 29, 2017
19,797
But the wording makes it sound like unit sales are down while revenue is up.

There is no indication about the unit sales being up or down. It's just saying that everything put together, it's the most profitable AC of the gen. Which is clearly a huge success and will probably result in longer than usual legs for this game. In the end, it'll likely outsell Origins and Syndicate.
 

AnimeJesus

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,181
We need more of this. The worst story and side quests in the history of this franchise and the game it's incredible.

What the hell...the writing is actually pretty damn good and the story is so much more engaging than Origins was. Also side quests feel meaningful this time around compared to Origins.
 
Nov 14, 2017
1,587
I mean, witcher famously has pretty bad combat though, so that's not saying much.
It's still saying something when we all agree that W3 is one of the best games ever made. So yes, it is saying much.

Game is great so far so that's nice to hear. I might actually get the season pass when I've done the main game.

So...what? a different game made by a different developer has no bearing on whether they do or don't need to improve the combat. Personally I don't mind it but there is room to improve the melee combat.
Never said it didn't had any bearing. And yes, they can definitely improve the melee combat.

It can still really obviously be better. Compare the quality of the combat while locked on to a souls game, and it's obvious there's room for improvement. That just means the next AC can be even better though, so that's not such a bad thing.
It's not a bad thing at all, the game already has good combat in my opinion and it still can improve a lot. So it get get better and better.
 

MrTired

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,230
There is no indication about the unit sales being up or down. It's just saying that everything put together, it's the most profitable AC of the gen. Which is clearly a huge success and will probably result in longer than usual legs for this game. In the end, it'll likely outsell Origins and Syndicate.
Last year they stated it because they could, this year they didn't. Why, because unit sales are likely down.https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-11-08-assassins-creed-origins-launch-sales-double-syndicate
 

Mesoian

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Oct 28, 2017
26,548
I think it's difficult we will see that kind of combat from an open world game, that's not Assassin's Creed focus and that's honestly ok in my opinion.

There is SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH combat in ACO, it's definitely a focus, which is why it's a problem.

I only mention it as the lock on combat in Origins and AC is clearly inspired by Souls.
That's true.

People need to stop doing that though, aping souls is not the end all be all solution to your game's combat.
 

TheRaidenPT

Editor-in-Chief, Hyped Pixels
Verified
Jun 11, 2018
5,949
Lisbon, Portugal
Odyssey is amazing it's a full RPG commit on the franchise.

My only problem with the game is the cloth rendering on pc version being locked at 30.

Like I previously said in Era, I enjoyed Origins but it felt an RPG only in terms of combat.. But now yeah it's a full on RPG despite there's quite a few improvements you could still do.
 

Mesoian

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Oct 28, 2017
26,548
It's still saying something when we all agree that W3 is one of the best games ever made. So yes, it is saying much.
...what are you talking about?

Why would you attempt to positively compare the combat of a game you like to a game that also has bad combat? Both games need dramatic improvements when it comes to combat. "the witcher doh" doesn't make ACO's combat problems go away.

Like, real talk, everything in ACO except the combat (and the dumb mercs mode) is fantastic, which makes the poor combat stick out even more.
 

CloseTalker

Member
Oct 25, 2017
30,670
Awesome to hear, incredible game. Those UK sales threads are less and less relevant as time goes on. Digital is huge.
 

ohitsluca

Member
Oct 29, 2017
731
For what it's worth, 4: Black Flag is quite good.

Yeah I have heard that... I actually did play shortly after it came out, but stopped as soon as I got to the first animus section. I was so burnt on the series after 3 that I didn't really give it a fair shot and quit very early on. I will play through it eventually
 

Deleted member 4044

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Oct 25, 2017
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The thing is that the city of Rome is just too masive, too prominent. Athens in comparison was a village, and Alexandria although a massive city in its own right, doesn't carry the same weight as Rome. So I believe that if Ubisoft decided to make a game in Italy in the 4th century AD (which would be my choice) they should start to design the map by building the city of Rome 1:1, they have the know-how, talent and tools to literally recreate the ancient city in its full glory. After that is done they should decide how to handle the countryside. Personally I'd say a hub oriented design like TW3 would work more for this game than the 'recreate an entire region in one hugh map'.

Also, Rome was pretty much the singular location for Brotherhood. Returning to Rome (ancient Rome this time, instead of Renaissance era) could allow them to do some neat story tie-ins to the vault and Ezio/Desmond storylines.
 

BernardoOne

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,289
Last year they stated it because they could, this year they didn't. Why, because unit sales are likely down.https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-11-08-assassins-creed-origins-launch-sales-double-syndicate
Not really. They stated it doubled syndicate sales because, ya know, that's a pretty impressive thing. Odyssey selling like 1.4x times Origins numbers wouldn't exactly make for such a snappy announcement.
There's also a difference between investor reports and sales PR.
 

-girgosz-

Member
Aug 16, 2018
1,042
Yes, it's retail-only. But people were making conclusions that digital couldn't have saved the game from a decline.

It declined in the UK no way around it it. These are revenue based WW sales for every platform. We already knew it was doing much better on steam before the UK thread.

Looks the game did great can't wait to get it just need to play Origins first.
 
Nov 14, 2017
1,587
...what are you talking about?

Why would you attempt to positively compare the combat of a game you like to a game that also has bad combat? Both games need dramatic improvements when it comes to combat. "the witcher doh" doesn't make ACO's combat problems go away.

Like, real talk, everything in ACO except the combat (and the dumb mercs mode) is fantastic, which makes the poor combat stick out even more.
Pretty simple really, W3 is considered one of the best games ever and has mediocre combat. And then you say that ACO could be way better if the combat was better.

EDIT: Oh, and to answer your other question, I'm talking about the combat in Assassin's Creed Odyssey.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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It declined in the UK no way around it it. These are revenue based WW sales for every platform. We already knew it was doing much better on steam before the UK thread.

Looks the game did great can't wait to get it just need to play Origins first.

Again, I was talking about the conclusion that decline in retail units in UK -> decline WW that people made.
 

Mesoian

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Oct 28, 2017
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SofNascimento

cursed
Member
Oct 28, 2017
21,345
São Paulo - Brazil
Also, Rome was pretty much the singular location for Brotherhood. Returning to Rome (ancient Rome this time, instead of Renaissance era) could allow them to do some neat story tie-ins to the vault and Ezio/Desmond storylines.

I don't know where I read something about this, but there was some noise about Ubisoft using multiple moments in time in a single setting. Rome singularly ideal for this.
 

SPRidley

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,238
Now resetera is sad.
See this thread not getting 20 pages of replies.

It deserves it, is the best AC ever.
 

impact

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
5,380
Tampa
Surprised kinda, as I figured people would be cheap and Origins was $30 on BF last year

I'll definitely be shoving some moms out of the way to get it at Walmart.
 

Nintendo

Prophet of Regret
Member
Oct 27, 2017
13,386
It declined in the UK no way around it it. These are revenue based WW sales for every platform. We already knew it was doing much better on steam before the UK thread.

Looks the game did great can't wait to get it just need to play Origins first.

Only physical declined in the UK from what we know though.
 

MrTired

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,230
Not really. They stated it doubled syndicate sales because, ya know, that's a pretty impressive thing. Odyssey selling like 1.4x times Origins numbers wouldn't exactly make for such a snappy announcement.
There's also a difference between investor reports and sales PR.
They don't need to to give figure just use the words 'it sold more'.

Still waiting for a source for your statement.
They used this same exact wording about Origins, and that had the exact same type of microtransactions and the exact same type of different editions and season pass, so that logic doesn't work at all.
 

rhandino

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,615
I don't know where I read something about this, but there was some noise about Ubisoft using multiple moments in time in a single setting. Rome singularly ideal for this.
I think that was the original plan for Unity but in the end they scrapped it and the only remnant of that idea was the "rifts" that take you to enclosed sections of Paris during the Belle Epoque, WWII and the siege during the medieval time.

Syndicate also tried something similar by taking you to a big-ish map of London during WWII.
 

Crossing Eden

Member
Oct 26, 2017
53,393
I don't know where I read something about this, but there was some noise about Ubisoft using multiple moments in time in a single setting. Rome singularly ideal for this.
The original plan for Unity was for the game to take place in multiple eras while following the same piece of eden, the rifts and opening of the game were the result of that.