You can bypass AC Odyssey XP Boost microtransactions with PC cheats

I liked the side content in Origins until I didn't anymore. After a while it just all felt the same.

I have no doubt that the same would happen to me in Odyssey. At which point, I'd break out the cheats just like I did in Origins.

Can't believe this is such a big topic, but I guess it's the same arguing that's gone on in all these threads.

"The game is grindy to make you want to pay for XP boosts."
"Nuh uh!"

PC gaming gets more and more enticing by the day. Glad no one on that platform has to deal with the bullshit.

Also love how upset some got in this thread that people found a way around the boosters.

ArnoldJRimmer said:

Anyway, I trust the youtubers and friends who are saying this stuff about the game and I'm worried. I like engaging with the game's systems but they are saying the quality of the content you have to grind isn't very good. It's not like the opening two islands. It's just having to do bandit camps over and over and the occasional fetch quest. The main story quests are great, but the best side quests seem to unlock around main plot line progression. So I'm definitely not looking forward to this... well, I'm, not so bothered with it now that I know cheat engine works at least, but still.

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Yeah, definitely not my experience at all.

Jim2point0 said:

The game is grindy to make you want to pay for XP boosts."
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The people saying the first sentence have pretty clearly not played the game, don't want to play the game, or haven't progressed very far. It's misleading and dishonest.

Shark said:

Yeah, definitely not my experience at all.

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Can you elaborate?

Uno Venova said:

Also love how upset some got in this thread that people found a way around the boosters.

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I don't think anyone in this thread is really upset about that.... really? I haven't read all the pages... so I may have missed it.

texhnolyze said:

It's not about how cheating is new to PC or not. It's about how Ubisoft is selling what essentially cheats.

In regular games without microtransactions, we probably wouldn't need to use the cheat.

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But for the millionth time, you don't need to use it.

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Principate said:

I'm discussing your idea that microtransaction have zero impact on games design and that companies don't tune these microtransactions models at all.

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I never said that in the first place.

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This are always added as a late addition and have no impact on the overall design itself

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oni-link said:

How do you feel about the developer in my thread that agreed with me?

Does someone siding with you completely render anyone elses expert informed option moot?

If you're so adamant these MXTs don't have any impact on the game why not argue they shouldn't even be there? If you take what you say as gospel they don't need to be in the game at all, and Ubisoft have gone out of their way to make them even more pointless than they were in their last game

No one is saying Ubisoft set out to make a bad game, or an exploitative game, or a game that is ruined by MXTs, but that doesn't mean that they don't want to make more MXT money with Odyssey than they did with Origins, and they won't have half arsed a monitisation plan

Any tweaks to the system will be with the intention to sell more of them. That doesn't exist in isolation though, the game could be (and supposedly is) better than Origins

Those of you who think Ubisoft don't want to (or even care about) making more money every year are the ones who are blinded by bias

There isn't anything wrong with a company wanting to make money, and a company doing so doesn't automatically mean the games they produce will be worse games

I guess I could JuSt tAlK lIkE tHiS aNd AsK for gamers to RISE UP and then post that laughing blonde girl gif though

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Thank you for this post.

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Can you elaborate?

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The game is a lot more than doing bandit camps over and over and the 'good' side content is definitely not locked away by story progression. This game is clearly influenced heavily by The Witcher and if you'd characterize the content in that game as 'just doing monster nests over and over' it wouldn't be truthful. Odyssey is just several times as large as TW3 is.

Odyssey very clearly doesn't expect you to do everything in the game. I'm Level 49 (cap is 50) and have yet to even touch 5-6 islands (at least, I think its actually more) and a huge part of the southern map. I have question marks all over my map (I'm playing on guided). I've never had my interest and what I want to do stopped by a lack of XP or resources. Not even close. I didn't even know this would be a concern until I saw the hand wringing and deception that crept up about the game this weekend.

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The game is a lot more than doing bandit camps over and over and the 'good' side content is definitely not locked away by story progression. This game is clearly influenced heavily by The Witcher and if you'd characterize the content in that game as 'just doing monster nests over and over' it wouldn't be truthful. Odyssey is just several times as large as TW3 is.

Odyssey very clearly doesn't expect you to do everything in the game. I'm Level 49 (cap is 50) and have yet to even touch 5-6 islands (at least, I think its actually more) and a huge part of the southern map. I have question marks all over my map (I'm playing on guided). I've never had my interest and what I want to do stopped by a lack of XP or resources. Not even close. I didn't even know this would be a concern until I saw the hand wringing and deception that crept up about the game this weekend.

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Why would people want to deceive me about Odyssey? Do they want to keep all the awesomeness of this single player game to their own and make sure I don't play it? I'm already playing it, so joke is on them. I can see maybe making an argument about youtubers trying to get hits on videos, but almost everyone that mentioned it had an overall positive review of the game. And why would my friends want to deceive me?

Could it be that people are having a different experience with this game than you?

oni-link said:

How do you feel about the developer in my thread that agreed with me?

Does someone siding with you completely render anyone elses expert informed option moot?

If you're so adamant these MXTs don't have any impact on the game why not argue they shouldn't even be there? If you take what you say as gospel they don't need to be in the game at all, and Ubisoft have gone out of their way to make them even more pointless than they were in their last game

No one is saying Ubisoft set out to make a bad game, or an exploitative game, or a game that is ruined by MXTs, but that doesn't mean that they don't want to make more MXT money with Odyssey than they did with Origins, and they won't have half arsed a monitisation plan

Any tweaks to the system will be with the intention to sell more of them. That doesn't exist in isolation though, the game could be (and supposedly is) better than Origins

Those of you who think Ubisoft don't want to (or even care about) making more money every year are the ones who are blinded by bias

There isn't anything wrong with a company wanting to make money, and a company doing so doesn't automatically mean the games they produce will be worse games

I guess I could JuSt tAlK lIkE tHiS aNd AsK for gamers to RISE UP and then post that laughing blonde girl gif though

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Basically this.

Jim2point0 said:

I don't think anyone in this thread is really upset about that.... really? I haven't read all the pages... so I may have missed it.

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There were few sarcastic posts like that from what I've read earlier. But you're right, nobody (I need to catch up though) has been upset but people pretend that some are. It makes for better discussion I guess.

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Lol,really? Man this is sad. Gaming was so romantic back in the day

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It's really really sad and the worst part about this is that this isn't even scratching it. GTAO is definitely one of the worst offenders.

ArnoldJRimmer said:

Why would people want to deceive me about Odyssey? Do they want to keep all the awesomeness of this single player game to their own and make sure I don't play it? I'm already playing it, so joke is on them. I can see maybe making an argument about youtubers trying to get hits on videos, but almost everyone that mentioned it had an overall positive review of the game. And why would my friends want to deceive me?

Could it be that people are having a different experience with this game than you?

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Why would anyone want to circlejerk about a franchise or game studio? It's profitable? It gets views? There are loads of people that hate Assassin's Creed as a franchise and nothing would ever change their mind. Almost every big franchise, especially one as long running as this, experiences similar stuff.

Thoughts on the game are subjective and writing quality and 'good content' is going to be up to the individual but saying stuff like the opening two islands are different than what the game gives you as it progresses isn't accurate. Nor is saying 'good' side quest content is locked by main story progression. Even if it was, why would that be bad? Most games expand as you progress and Odyssey isn't different. I certainly haven't been 'locked' out of anything and I'm never under leveled.

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How do you feel about the developer in my thread that agreed with me?

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The developer in your thread agreed that games with monetization has thought put into it, not that it inherently affect's a game i.e. the devs balance the game then balance it around MTs

oni-link said:

If you're so adamant these MXTs don't have any impact on the game why not argue they shouldn't even be there? If you take what you say as gospel they don't need to be in the game at all, and Ubisoft have gone out of their way to make them even more pointless than they were in their last game

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I don't have a problem with devs having an extra source of revenue. It's irrational because it implies literally evey examle oppresses the most oppressed minortity on the planet, gamers.

oni-link said:

No one is saying Ubisoft set out to make a bad game, or an exploitative game, or a game that is ruined by MXTs, but that doesn't mean that they don't want to make more MXT money with Odyssey than they did with Origins,

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Lad Odyssey is even more generous than Origin.

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Any tweaks to the system will be with the intention to sell more of them.

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Citation for tweaks oh wait you aren't playing the game.

oni-link said:

If you're so adamant these MXTs don't have any impact on the game why not argue they shouldn't even be there? If you take what you say as gospel they don't need to be in the game at all, and Ubisoft have gone out of their way to make them even more pointless than they were in their last game

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Jumping in here but, its because the argument itself is dishonest. And that's what it boils down to. People inherently don't like MTX. We've already seen the arguments on when they are only cosmetic and for some people, if the game is not giving you enough ( in there eyes) to get it in game, then even if you don't need to buy the MTX, it's abusive when it that is likely not the case.

The minute MTX show up in a game it's already noted as a negative even if it wasn't intended to be that way and that's the problem I have with it. It's damn if you do, damn if you don't. Are there games where the MTX are built into the entire game design and are very abusive? Absolutely...and that's the NBA 2K. Not only did they strip you of SP mode, but merged it into a pretty much always online mode and punishes you severely if you don't buy them. Which then causes people to buy them because the game is built to cause fustration to bring you to that point. And the worst part is there is no other outlet in the game to build xp to level up. The game gives you very little per game and the different attributes that require them exceed how much you can build playing a SEASON and understand that a season is 82 games and that doesn't include the post season that could stretch long depending on how weak or great your AI can be which again, is by design.

That's crazy, but honestly AC is just nowhere near that.

Crossing Eden said:

The developer in your thread agreed that games with monetization has thought put into it, not that it inherently affect's a game i.e. the devs balance the game then balance it around MTs

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Maaaaaan this is weird. Very weird interpretation of what was said.

Crossing Eden said:

The developer in your thread agreed that games with monetization has thought put into it, not that it inherently affect's a game i.e. the devs balance the game then balance it around MTs


I don't have a problem with devs having an extra source of revenue. It's irrational because it implies literally evey examle oppresses the most oppressed minortity on the planet, gamers.


Lad Odyssey is even more generous than Origin.


Citation for tweaks oh wait you aren't playing the game.

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The first four words of the comment are "It absolutely affects design"

Your interpretation of this is "The developer in your thread agreed that games with monetization has thought put into it, not that it inherently affect's a game"

I've not read the rest of your post yet because I am reeling

Tohsaka said:

You can really tell who never had any intention of playing this game. So far I'm level 22, and actually haven't bothered upgrading my gear once because I'm always finding better stuff to equip as I play the game. I've never one been underleveled for the main quest, either, since I actually bother to do sidequests and explore. I don't know why anyone would buy this game (or any open-world RPG) if they just want to ignore 75% of the content it has to offer.

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All you're saying there is no need for mtx in ac and yet they still pushed it inside which means ubi are a scumbag. And you're arguing with people who say basically the same, strange stuff.

Also crossing corporate shill is in 'Must protect at all cost' mode again lol.

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Harnzyy said:

"predatory/exploitative" These words get thrown around way too much.

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But they are going after gamers. Gamers!

ArnoldJRimmer said:

Like the version of the game? I'm on Steam so whatever the latest release is.

I just left the beginning two islands, so I'm early - but thorough. I explored every nook and cranny of both islands. And just like everyone else who's playing this game but has this issue, I'm really liking the game so far. Some things could be better communicated like I didn't know until reading it on this thread that wood creates arrows. I thought maybe we had to unlock an arrow crafting ability or it was locked to completing a quest. I kept on running out of arrows and didn't understand where the hell they were coming from - except for the ones I picked up from enemies I've killed with them. I thought I was still using my original 7 arrows since I kept on picking them back up after a kill.

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Omg, due by the end game you literally have skills where you characters shoot arrows with abilities that don't consume ammo. That's how stupidly overpowered you get.

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Nice attempt at a gotcha, I wonder if one could infer that i wasn't talking about any and all MT additions if they were to click on that link.

You wouldn't steal a car.

You wouldn't eat a slave.

You wouldn't push your granny of the buss.

Piracy. It's a crime.

oni-link said:

Any tweaks to the system will be with the intention to sell more of them.

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Still waiting on the citation for tweaks btw.

Laughing Banana said:

It's just weird the amount of effort--or money--people are willing to commit to play less of a game that they buy to play.

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I think this is my primary issue with the design in general. I understand a business trying to get money any way possible, but as a consumer, and my own personal business, I'm going to seek out value for my money. It becomes harder to justify the game itself when there exists a means of bypassing the game. Something there doesn't add up. You're essentially telling me that parts of the game I pay for are so un-fun to play that you're offering a means of getting around them for additional money. I don't hate the company for trying, but as a consumer, I'm less inclined to buy that game.

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The first four words of the comment are "It absolutely affects design"

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Then the next two questions are "how?" and "does that make the game less enjoyable?"

You have two hours.

HulkMansfield said:

It becomes harder to justify the game itself when there exists a means of bypassing the game

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There's no means to bypass the game.

AyaisMUsikWhore said:

The minute MTX show up in a game it's already noted as a negative even if it wasn't intended to be that way and that's the problem I have with it. It's damn if you do, damn if you don't.

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Yes? Nickeling and dimeing in a full price game is inherently negative. There's no such thing as a postive microtransaction in a full priced title. I have no idea how your post is attempting to refute that point other than saying "AC isn't as bad as NBA 2K so it's okay".
I don't know what "damned if you don't" means in this context, unless you seriously believe microtransactions are the only thing keeping AAA pubs afloat

I mean, why not just play the game?
The only people making a big deal out of this seem to be people that tried to beat the game in 3 hours or aren't playing it.

I'd rather Ubi not even have that MTX option, would avoid all of this headache.

Crossing Eden said:

There's no means to bypass the game.

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There is.

Don't buy it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

oni-link said:

The first four words of the comment are "It absolutely affects design"

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Citation needed then.

oni-link said:

Your interpretation of this is "The developer in your thread agreed that games with monetization has thought put into it, not that it inherently affect's a game"

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So we have two different developers, (not exactly hint), who say that design is affected on a case by case basis. Your thread was attacking a strawman argument.

HBK said:

There is.

Don't buy it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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I mean the people who argue the most that the game just lets you buy your way through progression argue that the most while relying on hearsay. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That cheese life is the best life. The problem with PC trainers is that some people just don't know how to use them properly and enable all the options immediately at once and just break the game/AI/difficulty then complain about said game on forums lol. Trainers/cheat tables are easily one of the best things about PC gaming.

HulkMansfield said:

I think this is my primary issue with the design in general. I understand a business trying to get money any way possible, but as a consumer, and my own personal business, I'm going to seek out value for my money. It becomes harder to justify the game itself when there exists a means of bypassing the game. Something there doesn't add up. You're essentially telling me that parts of the game I pay for are so un-fun to play that you're offering a means of getting around them for additional money. I don't hate the company for trying, but as a consumer, I'm less inclined to buy that game.

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Why does it automatically go to 'un-fun'...these things exist to make a quick buck off of someone and are enticing not because the game is 'un-fun', but because it is so ridiculously large.

Kaako said:

The problem with PC trainers is that some people just don't know how to use them properly and enable all the options immediately at once and just break the game/AI/difficulty then complain about said game on forums lol.

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I would HIGHKEY prefer this over people complaining about the game's progression without playing it.

Crossing Eden said:

Citation needed then.


So we have two different developers, (not exactly hint), who say that design is affected on a case by case basis. Your thread was attacking a strawman argument.


I mean the people who argue the most that the game just lets you buy your way through progression argue that the most while relying on hearsay. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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The citation is the post you quoted before.

Serious question did you read the link?

Crossing Eden said:

The developer in your thread agreed that games with monetization has thought put into it, not that it inherently affect's a game i.e. the devs balance the game then balance it around MTs


I don't have a problem with devs having an extra source of revenue. It's irrational because it implies literally evey examle oppresses the most oppressed minortity on the planet, gamers.


Lad Odyssey is even more generous than Origin.


Citation for tweaks oh wait you aren't playing the game.

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Ok taking another run at this because I'm still staggered

My point that the game could still be good even though they want to make more money is that Odyssey is more generous than Origins, so that to you is confirmation Unisoft want to make less money than they did with Origins? That's not a reasonable point, that's the point of someone so in love with a company they believe the company is their friend

Never mind you want citation the game isn't different while confirming in the same post it's different because one is more generous, how is that not a tweak?

MXTs don't oppress gamers, you're right there, but you fundamentally don't seem to understand how a business works. If you think Ubisoft will be happy making less money than they did with Origins, because they went out of there way to make the MXTs pointless (according to you) then you're out of your mind

guess cheat engine wont work with project stream

Razgriz417 said:

guess cheat engine wont work with project stream

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Nope.

Principate said:

The citation is the post you quoted before.

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There's not a link in the post I quoted.

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Serious question did you read the link?

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Did you? You're citing an article that states that literally less R&D is required for the implementation of cosmetics and using that as an indication that Ubisoft affected the progression of their game.

Crossing Eden said:

There's not a link in the post I quoted.


Did you? You're citing an article that states that literally less R&D is required for the implementation of cosmetics and using that as an indication that Ubisoft affected the progression of their game.

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No we're talking about the developer that said and I quote this.

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It absolutely affects design, and for some games disproportionately so.

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For which you described the words as this

Crossing Eden said:

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I'm just leaving this here because your description speaks for itself.

oni-link said:

My point that the game could still be good even though they want to make more money is that Odyssey is more generous than Origins, so that to you is confirmation Unisoft want to make less money than they did with Origins?

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It's almost like the monetary value of a game isn't solely determined by it's microtransactions and that the game in question isn't solely designed around MTX purchases that a minority of players buy. ALMOST as if they fine tuned the game's progression and didn't, as a youtuber would tell you, compromise said progression by to reiterate, tying it to MTs. Like the other four AC games this gen that had similar monetization.

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That's not a reasonable point

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It is if you've actually played the game. Oh wait.....

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No were talking about the developer that said and I quote this.

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Question, do DMC4SE and Deus Ex give you less money/exp because MTX exist?

In many mobile or Facebook games, to use these kind of cheats/hacks to get microtransactions for free meant that in a few weeks they were going to permaban your account. In the other case, it was just to deny you to play the game. In this case, if you are playing in uPlay if they ban your account you'd lose all your Ubisoft games. Good luck.

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Response to person talking about using a trainer: guys please don't cheat, play the game as it was intended to be played. Just play the game.

Reponse to person talking about buying xp boosters: yeh that's fine go ahead, it's player choice.

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The second case is the legal one (when using a trainer is to skip a microtransaction, like this case) what game devs created.

To use a trainer to get paid microtransaction content for free is the same than to pirate a paid game or dlc content.

To support and advertise this trainer/hack/cheat is to support piracy.

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Still waiting on the citation for tweaks btw.

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I don't need to cite the obvious

I need you to cite that a million dollar corporation doesn't want to make more money each year

You honestly believe they're in the game but they don't track or plan how much they make, or set projections and targets?

Great mod, I'm all for shitting on MTs. More mods that rip this poison shit from our games please!

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I would HIGHKEY prefer this over people complaining about the game's progression without playing it.

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I don't blame you. Ubi games usually get shat on at a much greater pace on era for some reason.

IDKFA or CTSpace

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It's almost like the monetary value of a game isn't solely determined by it's microtransactions and that the game in question isn't solely designed around MTX purchases that a minority of players buy. ALMOST as if they fine tuned the game's progression and didn't, as a youtuber would tell you, compromise said progression by to reiterate, tying it to MTs. Like the other four AC games this gen that had similar monetization.

It is if you've actually played the game. Oh wait.....


Question, do DMC4SE and Deus Ex give you less money/exp because MTX exist?

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I see you've decided not to engage with the question. I'll say this that honestly that was a disturbing level of mental gymnastics.

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Shark said:

Why does it automatically go to 'un-fun'...these things exist to make a quick buck off of someone and are enticing not because the game is 'un-fun', but because it is so ridiculously large.

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We may just disagree here, but I include all aspects of the game to be about the game, gaining EXP and leveling up included. I understand that just by having an option to buy XP doesn't necessarily mean the game is unbalanced, but it certainly implies the possibility is there. It would absolutely behoove the company to make levels take just a little too long to the point of boredom to drive the MTX sales. I won't judge the outcome of the game based on that exclusively, but it certainly raises my skepticism and lowers my "hype" for the game.

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don't need to cite the obvious

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Citations are required for statements, you're a grown ass man, I'm sure you've been to college, they taught you how to do citations, so cite.some.sources. Here's my citation. Your turn.

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I need you to cite that a million dollar corporation doesn't want to make more money each year

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Hmmm, season pass has more content than ever before and the post launch support is stronger than ever before and got a trailer specifically dedicated to the content you'd be receiving vs a store where you're asked to check it once. On top of this Ubisoft has stated that things like cosmetics require less R&D and marketing. Gee I wonder which one they determine makes more bank and requires more effort.