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Reuters: Turkish police believe Washington Post journalist Khashoggi was killed at Saudi consulate
- Thread starter chadskin
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Some random dude said something dumb on Twitter - 50 pages
Anybody else pissing with their eyes closed? - 400 pages
Close American ally Saudi Arabia presumably kidnapped and dismembered Washington Post journalist in embassy - 3 pages
OT Era in a nutshell
I know people typically only care about stuff that directly touches them, but this is incredibly depressing
Anybody else pissing with their eyes closed? - 400 pages
Close American ally Saudi Arabia presumably kidnapped and dismembered Washington Post journalist in embassy - 3 pages
OT Era in a nutshell
I know people typically only care about stuff that directly touches them, but this is incredibly depressing
Khashoggi's wife had an op-ed on Washington Post today basically begging Trump to look into this. Poor woman.
It is kinda crazy how sloppy these murders are lately, it is like they don't give a fuck anymore about cover ups or anything. Russia had that hilarious "yea we just always wanted to visit but left early cause it's raining" laughable bs excuse for the two KGB agents that poisoned the guy and his daughter on British soil and now Saudi Arabia is doing this shit that won't fool a five year old. They don't even give a shit about repercussions anymore because there are none.
It is kinda crazy how sloppy these murders are lately, it is like they don't give a fuck anymore about cover ups or anything. Russia had that hilarious "yea we just always wanted to visit but left early cause it's raining" laughable bs excuse for the two KGB agents that poisoned the guy and his daughter on British soil and now Saudi Arabia is doing this shit that won't fool a five year old. They don't even give a shit about repercussions anymore because there are none.
Yup, they don't.
The world has enabled them to go forth with impunity. Hell they get rewarded with investments and contracts.
The key to righting all this is for America to give a shit, which won't happen.
Sigh... The world is shit and full of terror.
Jesus this is awful. I don't know whether to hope he's dead and not being tortured, or hope he's alive and we can get him back. They didn't take him as in kidnapping right?
The reaction to Trump being elected generally from Russia/SA/Israel has been to just stop even pretending as they know there won't be consequences and the blatant nature is intended to send a message in and of itself.
All indications, unfortunately, are that he died that day after Saudi Arabia specifically sent a team to Turkey to kill him and dispose of the body.
Utterly horrifying and yet another notch in this unholy alliance between murderous regimes. I agree with other posters, incidents like this are immensely more worthy of our outrage than Latest Dumbass Celebrity Says Stupid Shit(TM).
For people wondering why the world barely shrugged at this, let's not forget that besides oil, the Saudis are now also helpful in bailing out Valley VCs:
https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/07/s...o-invest-45b-in-softbanks-second-vision-fund/
It's incredible really, they are selling Saudi Aramco, so US investors will literally get to own their oil. And then they also get back the money they paid for said oil, as it's pumped back to USA via the Vision fund.
https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/07/s...o-invest-45b-in-softbanks-second-vision-fund/
It's incredible really, they are selling Saudi Aramco, so US investors will literally get to own their oil. And then they also get back the money they paid for said oil, as it's pumped back to USA via the Vision fund.
It's possible they took him hostage, but man, chances of that don't look so good. The 15 person team identified as flying in beforehand and leaving soon after his disappearance included one guy who is apparently a forensics/autopsy expert, suspected to be there to help dismember his body :|. Think it's pretty clear the Saudi explanation of "he left the consulate and conveniently our video surveillance wasn't recording so we can't prove it" doesn't hold much water and he never left the embassy of his own accord. Unless they can show proof in the next couple days he's alive, dude is fucking dead.
As for this report from wapo
If the US knew of the plan before his disappearance, per intel/diplo directives, they had a duty to warn him. If they knew, and didn't tell him (because Jared is buddy-buddy with MBS and Trump loves authoritarians or w/e) that's a big f-ing problem. I'll say that the description isn't totally clear and they may have intercepted the intel before it happened but only discovered it afterwards when investigating (safe to say US intel hoovers up too much shit to completely monitor everything in real time), but yeah.
Nothing. You'd think he called for a violent revolution, but his criticism was always mild to me.
He focused mostly on criticizing the religious establishment, the same establishment that MBS is being praised by idiots for supposedly weakening it.
IIRC one of the last things he was talking about was the liberal activists who were arrested a few months ago.
Most of them were the same activists who campaigned for stuff like women's driving and lessening some of the restrictions placed on women, like needing permission to travel or receive some civil services.
From what I remember he made the correct point of, since these things are being implemented, and MBS is getting praised for it, then it doesn't make sense to jail the people who asked for them.
He was also very clear in saying that he's not an anti-government activist, nor did he consider himself to be against MBS or the Saudi rule.
Fat lot of use that was for him, the poor guy.
If you can't make people like you, making them afraid of you works too
It tells people what will happen to them if they write articles telling the truth about Saudi, and acts a a general statement of intent to any other critic of the regime.
Sometimes there's nothing to discuss. 99% of the forum probably thinks this news is terrible but within the bounds of something they'd expect Saudi Arabia to do so it's not wholly out of the ordinary, as evidenced by most of the posts being "Wow fuck Saudi Arabia" in some form.
Unless someone brings in some controversial conspiracy theory like (((Soros did this))) I wouldn't expect a story about a Saudi dude disappearing in Turkey to get a lot of play on an English language gaming forum.
I suppose it's too much to hope that maybe he's still alive and being interrogated by Saudi's etc?
They don't care about the inconsequential bad PR in the foreign press. They care about sending a message to any other dissenting voices. Speak up and you will die.
This. It's about sending a message.
If even a soft-spoken critic like him will get killed what are the odds for anyone else.
They got into a fight with Canada of all things.
All I can really say is that I hope he went quick but with an operation like this that means someone had an axe to grind so there's no way that is the case.
At least they should, considering the murder happened on their soil (despite the technicalities regarding embassies... it's still Turkey).
He was killed on Turkish soil, Erdogan isn't going to let MBS make him look weak.
You're right that Trump won't respond. This happened precisely because of that all but guaranteed assumption.
Terrible. Trump doesn't care. He's probably wishing he could make journalists here disappear in a similar manner. He has a gross affection for strong man, authoritarians who get things done. RIP.
15 people means he did not merely get shot in the head point blank. They allegedly videotaped his torture and brought it back to SA to show off.
here is the news about what happen from washingtonpost
and u can follow this twitter about the 15 Saudi who came from Riyadh as one of them was " Dr. Salah Muhammed Al-Tubaigy, the head of the Forensic Evidence at the Saudi General Security Department!"
here is the twitter
and the other were military
and u can follow this twitter about the 15 Saudi who came from Riyadh as one of them was " Dr. Salah Muhammed Al-Tubaigy, the head of the Forensic Evidence at the Saudi General Security Department!"
here is the twitter
and the other were military
Because Saudi Arabia is our ally. You don't criticize your friends bro!
It would interesting to see what a Hilary or Obama administration would do. US, UK and others are so far up the Saudi's ass.
I do think Trump being in office has probably made countries more brazen though.
