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Should Sony invest in new studios?
- Thread starter QuiteSomething
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As long as they can remain competitive with first party content, I see no need.
If later down the road there portfolio is lacking compared to the competition, then its time to expand.
If later down the road there portfolio is lacking compared to the competition, then its time to expand.
After Spiderman, this seems more likely than ever. But I'm sure they've turned down some big offers from Sony in the past.
It's sad they closed down the Warhawk people and Zipper Interactive (SOCOM). Then again their business wasn't booming like it is today. Would be nice if they invested more in indie studios making smaller games. A 2-person team wouldn't really cost them that much, really. Better yet, invest in mid-size studios. We need more games that don't scream AAA facial capture AAA cinematics AAA orchestrial soundtrack. Something like The Witness or SOMA or Hellblade would be nice.
Another thing to consider is how much MS will continue to support second party and 3rd party deals. If they continue with second party and 3rd party, as well as continue branching out with First party, they're a force to be reckon with, but I assume they'll acquire a few more studios and for the most part stick with just their WWS games.
Sony will still have to stay on their A game, but it's manageable.
Sony will still have to stay on their A game, but it's manageable.
Only in April we heard about Sony building a AAA studio in San Diago to (reportedly) continue the Uncharted franchise.
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2018/04/sony_is_creating_a_new_game_development_team_in_san_diego
Sony also set-up a North West studio for PSVR development a couple of years ago.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...west-studio-to-work-on-project-morpheus-games
This is a creative industry and they should be left well alone until they have something to show.
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2018/04/sony_is_creating_a_new_game_development_team_in_san_diego
Sony also set-up a North West studio for PSVR development a couple of years ago.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...west-studio-to-work-on-project-morpheus-games
This is a creative industry and they should be left well alone until they have something to show.
I would say yes, but not in the same way Microsoft is doing. I think they really just need a studio that can put out some quality RPG's and the like and probably a MP focused studio, maybe. I personally would rather most studios stay multi plat but if Microsoft is gonna start gobbling them up then fuck it I hope Sony gets in on it as well.
I think Sony has a damn fine list of studios already. If anything, I'd rather they do more partnerships like Spider-Man where they present studios with the chance to work on their dream IP.
Yes. I have been saying this for a while now.
They need to go back and buy Evo Studios and have them build a new game.
Go back to ready at dawn and have them make a real game this time.
Get the GG Cambridge team together again and have them make a AAA Killzone game.
Make Naughty Dog a two team studio.
Make SSM a two team studio.
I get it. they tried and it didnt work. But try again. If ND wasnt a two team studio, we wouldnt have gotten TLOU. It's worth the risk. This time, learn from your mistakes and do it right. They are bleeding talent left and right because these senior designers want to create their dream game but cant because well, you can only make one game at a time and then stick with that one IP for a fucking decade.
I still remember reading about how TLOU came about. Sony didnt want to lose Neil and Bruce so they gave them a team and told them to go make whatever they wanted. They did the same with Stig over at SSM but that game got cancelled for whatever reason. Stig left, Amy Left, and then recently Bruce left along with one of the guys who directed Lost Legacy. GG recently lost a bunch of people too. Some of it is just people moving on to bigger and better things but you need to lock up that talent. you cannot let these amazing directors get away.
They need to go back and buy Evo Studios and have them build a new game.
Go back to ready at dawn and have them make a real game this time.
Get the GG Cambridge team together again and have them make a AAA Killzone game.
Make Naughty Dog a two team studio.
Make SSM a two team studio.
I get it. they tried and it didnt work. But try again. If ND wasnt a two team studio, we wouldnt have gotten TLOU. It's worth the risk. This time, learn from your mistakes and do it right. They are bleeding talent left and right because these senior designers want to create their dream game but cant because well, you can only make one game at a time and then stick with that one IP for a fucking decade.
I still remember reading about how TLOU came about. Sony didnt want to lose Neil and Bruce so they gave them a team and told them to go make whatever they wanted. They did the same with Stig over at SSM but that game got cancelled for whatever reason. Stig left, Amy Left, and then recently Bruce left along with one of the guys who directed Lost Legacy. GG recently lost a bunch of people too. Some of it is just people moving on to bigger and better things but you need to lock up that talent. you cannot let these amazing directors get away.
I would also expect more second team studios next gen.
GG and SSM seem like they'll branch off to 2 teams. Or at least get their pre pro started early so the next game doesn't take too long.
ND is a wild card for being 2 teams. Imo they'll transition to 2 teams again, but it's wait and see for now.
GG and SSM seem like they'll branch off to 2 teams. Or at least get their pre pro started early so the next game doesn't take too long.
ND is a wild card for being 2 teams. Imo they'll transition to 2 teams again, but it's wait and see for now.
Death Stranding is just a deal with Sony, beyond that Kojima's a free agent.
No. I mean, if a good opportunity presents itself, Sony should take advantage, but they aren't in a bad place at all.
Nintendo on the other hand needs to incubate or acquire some western developers badly imo. I love their offerings, but they could use some diversification.
Nintendo on the other hand needs to incubate or acquire some western developers badly imo. I love their offerings, but they could use some diversification.
Sony likes to cultivate talent over time rather than try to force success. Insomniac is a natural choice for acquisition as such, Kojima's new studio as well.
Only if they feel someone else might buy a close partner. Like if someone else got Insomniac after Spidey and it negatively affected it, I'll be really annoyed. I don't think that'll happen though.
This would apply to From too, but Bloodborne 2 or Demon Souls 2 probably aren't happening anyway and I doubt any 1st party would buy them considering they missed their chance not too long ago.
This would apply to From too, but Bloodborne 2 or Demon Souls 2 probably aren't happening anyway and I doubt any 1st party would buy them considering they missed their chance not too long ago.
Can we not do this knee-jerk nonsense? Microsoft is buying developers because their output has been anaemic since the first half of the 360 era. Sony doesn't need to buy developers because their first party output has been their defining factor for over a decade.
Let's see what happens from all this. If MS is buying devs now the likelihood is that we're not going to see their next games release for a good 4+ years anyway. Meanwhile Sony WWS seems to know what they're doing and has settled into a comfortable groove, and we have some developers growing significantly like Guerrilla, Naughty Dog (rumoured) and Media Molecule. I really don't think Sony have anything to worry about, nor should they react just because MS has the chequebook out.
Let's see what happens from all this. If MS is buying devs now the likelihood is that we're not going to see their next games release for a good 4+ years anyway. Meanwhile Sony WWS seems to know what they're doing and has settled into a comfortable groove, and we have some developers growing significantly like Guerrilla, Naughty Dog (rumoured) and Media Molecule. I really don't think Sony have anything to worry about, nor should they react just because MS has the chequebook out.
I would hope that Sony wouldn't buy a healthy and thriving independent studio like Insomniac.
This. I don't see the problem at all.
What's your idea of a AAA budget for a JRPG? Wasn't Gravity Rush 2 a pretty ambitious JRPG?
Insomniac, Quantic Dreams, and others present an interesting case where Sony has "2nd party" developers. It doesn't really feel like anyone else is doing that much this gen.
GR2 was ambitious but i'm talking more about something with the scale of FFXV or even DQXI from Sony, i'm not talking about AAA 100m+ budgets.
Be a bit awkward to have a ms owned studio working on a sony funded exclusive for the next 2 years though
I knew a thread like this would pop up with microsoft expanding its first party.
They should acquire quantic dream and kojima's studio at least.
They should acquire quantic dream and kojima's studio at least.
Let's be honest. Microsoft absolutely NEEDED to do this. Their exclusive portfolio has been lacking this gen. Sony does not. You could argue that they've been the best publisher this gen.
They are investing in studio, just because they don't announce them at their conference doesn't mean they won't do anything, their quality will stay remain top notch even if they don't do anything, their studios weren't formed a year or two ago, they got there with decades of work.
They have a shit ton of studios already and a lot of second party relationships too so I think they are good for now.
If they want to create new studios, i don't mind that at all. As far as i know, Baba's new team is looking for work
On the other hand, people say they want Japanese games, but they dont buy Japan studio's content no matter how good it is, and that's really sad.
On the other hand, people say they want Japanese games, but they dont buy Japan studio's content no matter how good it is, and that's really sad.
