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DCEU Era |OT2| Joker's Wild

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Chuck Noblet

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Non dc sidenote check out a star is born y'all. Big ol Brad delivers some high quality kino. Really surprised the hell out of me, Gaga's performance too.

Get ready to ugly cry in the theater tho lol.
 
Loxley

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Not strictly DCEU related, but Alex Ross of all people was on Seth Meyers last night:



Pretty cool to see someone from the comics industry on a bigger platform like that.
 
Leo Sagittarius

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I'm of the opposite opinion. I LOVE when comic book movies are grounded in reality and are dark and gritty :)
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I'm a fan of dark and gritty and grounded.....where it makes sense.

It's cool how much different Aquaman's color palette is in comparison with the previous movies. The lore behind the character allows for it to happen and not seem out of place.

I hope Reeves makes a dark and gritty Batman but with some sort of stylization/visual twist to it (That's why Burton's Batman will always have a place in my heart). Let Gotham have some flair, a little bit of European gothic architecture to make it feel unique or something. Hell, I would even eat up a black and white Batman movie and draw that classy noir feeling.
 
broncobuster

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Yeah. There are plenty of concepts from comics that, weirdly, those who identify as comic fans are stubborn to embrace outside the medium.
 
MHWilliams

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If it's good, no one cares.

Aquaman in terms of personality, isn't comics Aquaman. Scarlet Witch isn't Scarlet Witch, Star-Lord isn't Star-Lord. Ledger's Joker was a fairly strong departure at the time. Green Arrow on TV was very little like comic Oliver Queen; he was more Batman. Riverdale isn't like the Archie comics, but folks seem to enjoy it.

I think there's an execution of Snyder's aim that would've worked. I don't think it was what was onscreen.
 
broncobuster

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MHWilliams said:
If it's good, no one cares.

Aquaman in terms of personality, isn't comics Aquaman. Scarlet Witch isn't Scarlet Witch, Star-Lord isn't Star-Lord. Ledger's Joker was a fairly strong departure at the time. Green Arrow on TV was very little like comic Oliver Queen; he was more Batman. Riverdale isn't like the Archie comics, but folks seem to enjoy it.
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On one hand, you're not wrong. On the other, in 2017 people were still complaining that Hugh Jackman is too tall and doesn't wear a yellow onesie. Someone will always care. It's just a matter of how many someones.

Certain people will always have a bizarre sense of entitlement and self-perceived ownership over these characters.
 
MHWilliams

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broncobuster said:
On one hand, you're not wrong. On the other, in 2017 people were still complaining that Hugh Jackman is too tall and doesn't wear a yellow onesie. Someone will always care. It's just a matter of how many someones.

Certain people will always have a bizarre sense of entitlement and self-perceived ownership over these characters.
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Someone will care, but a good film will generally trump those concerns, with Jackman's Wolverine being a good example. As the film itself starts to weaken, being able to rely on classic tropes and versions of a character can cover up other problems.
 

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We're always going in circles with this good films nonsense. It's easy as hell to say "just make a good film!" but, shit, someone's good is someone else's trash.

Nowadays "good" just means "safe". Fuck that noise. The best movies of the past few years were anything but safe. Thank god Snyder was able to do his own thing and give us MoS and BvS.
 
okdakor

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No need to be safe, I don't know a lot about Aquaman comics, but I guess he isn't usually depicted as a half-moron biker-bro. But Snyder's vision of Aquaman was just boring, besides a few cool poses / shots. Maybe it's his problem, not enough "cool" comics panels to trace his scenes over.
Wan isn't playing safe, he already showed us an Aquaman pushing a submarine out, swimming full speed, glimpses of underwater cities, some "lord of the rings" feels with the different clans, big war scenes with giant crabs against neon stingrays and mesosaurs, rooftop pursuits with a guy shooting energy beams from his cool helmet...
This guy uses his imagination, and is not trying the "what if this guy existed in our sad and dark world" angle. And I believe he will make the Aquabro fun and sympathetic, and make the transition to an Aquaman usable for future movies.
 
BlackGoku03

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okdakor said:
No need to be safe, I don't know a lot about Aquaman comics, but I guess he isn't usually depicted as a half-moron biker-bro. But Snyder's vision of Aquaman was just boring, besides a few cool poses / shots. Maybe it's his problem, not enough "cool" comics panels to trace his scenes over.
Wan isn't playing safe, he already showed us an Aquaman pushing a submarine out, swimming full speed, glimpses of underwater cities, some "lord of the rings" feels with the different clans, big war scenes with giant crabs against neon stingrays and mesosaurs, rooftop pursuits with a guy shooting energy beams from his cool helmet...
This guy uses his imagination, and is not trying the "what if this guy existed in our sad and dark world" angle. And I believe he will make the Aquabro fun and sympathetic, and make the transition to an Aquaman usable for future movies.
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If one thing is certain, it's that DC allows for balance with both the fantastical and the real world implications of having super beings protect us.

The problem is that WB doesn't know that. They know that Nolan's movies worked great and they were trying to repeat it with every property. Hopefully, seeing Wan's Aquaman and Jenkins' WW success will give them a big clue.
 
broncobuster

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Bat-Hammer > Bat-Hamm

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Loxley

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No offense to Hamm, but WB ain't gonna ditch Affleck for another actor with a history of alcohol addiction.
 
Disco

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Don Draper been my ideal Bruce Wayne since I saw Mad Men tbh

And it's what batfleck (in BvS only tho) reminded me of which is why I enjoyed it so much. Hammer would do great in the part too, but again his voice is practically similar to Hamms and hed just be taller (and younger)

Down for either of those two in the part hopefully it comes down to that
 
Chained Prometheus

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Disco said:
dude would be a great Jason Todd. hell nah to Batman tho.
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Nah, I think O'Connell would make an amazing Batman- especially a Zero Year-type Bats.

Here's the thing I think a lot of DC fans need to face. We really need to stop hoping that a) Affleck sticks around, b) they get Jon Hamm to replace him or c) they get Armie Hammer to replace him. Because quite frankly, none of them seem to match the sort of Batman that Matt Reeves wants to present in his film. I don't think Reeves is interested in the Don Draper-esque Bruce Wayne.

O'Connell on the other hand? Well, it remains to be seen if he's fully in the running or not, but I've been thinking he'd be a great option since July. Consider the actors we know Reeves previously looked at when he was planning to only recast Affleck and have The Batman be set in the present (Jake Gyllenhall, Jack Huston). Then consider actors in the Age 25-30ish age range that was rumored awhile back that have that same sort of vibe that Gyllenhaal and Huston had. O'Connell is right on the money for that.
 
Firemind

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Y'all need to realize Batman is a broken man. Leave the optimism to Superman. So how is that MoS2 going?
 
broncobuster

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Jack O'Connell is very much a Bale type actor. He's always who I thought would be great as Jason Todd against Affleck's Batman, in a simpler time. Maybe it's because in most of his roles, he plays a broken person. He's great in Starred Up.

On other young actors, and I think people with wave it off having only seen him in Tron 2, I can see Garrett Hedlund being a good young Bruce. I dunno. I can't think of a realistic pick that'd immediately make me question what's up. Like I don't think they'll get Miles Teller to play Batman.
 
Chained Prometheus

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broncobuster said:
Jack O'Connell is very much a Bale type actor. He's always who I thought would be great as Jason Todd against Affleck's Batman, in a simpler time. Maybe it's because in most of his roles, he plays a broken person. He's great in Starred Up.

On other young actors, and I think people with wave it off having only seen him in Tron 2, I can see Garrett Hedlund being a good young Bruce. I dunno. I can't think of a realistic pick that'd immediately make me question what's up. Like I don't think they'll get Miles Teller to play Batman.
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Yeah, exactly. O'Connell would be a pick very much in the vein of Bale and probably also a bit of Michael Keaton too. And I think a Bale-type actor is far more in line with what Reeves seems to want in his take on Bruce Wayne/Batman than the previously established take brought to us by Affleck and Snyder.

With that in mind, I don't know how accurate the rumor is yet, but even if it isn't currently true, I think O'Connell is definitely one of the actors to keep an eye on moving forward. He seems to fit the profile of what Reeves is supposedly looking for very well. If it isn't O'Connell, I bet it'll still be someone a lot like him.
 
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