There's no guarantee Sony will offer BC next gen, just a patent for streamlining emulation process, likely as remasters. They have a full working emulator for PS2 AND PSP on ps4 and their effort is abysmal. Just think, many people have completely digital PSP libraries.
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FT: Sony commits to successor for PlayStation 4
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There's no guarantee Sony will offer BC next gen, just a patent for streamlining emulation process, likely as remasters. They have a full working emulator for PS2 AND PSP on ps4 and their effort is abysmal. Just think, many people have completely digital PSP libraries.
True. Sony hasn't been exactly setting tills alight with their multiplayer offerings - they never gained traction back in the days of the PS3.
Well, to be honest, do you remember the talk of "consoles are dead!" and "this will be the last console generation!" before this gen really got underway? People genuinely thought that stuff for a good long while there. Heck, the conversation even turned to "well, it won't be the last console generation, but it'll be the last traditional console generation!" for a while after that too.
They're not going to give it an official name until they officially reveal it. Refusing to name it now doesn't mean it won't be called PS5. It most probably will I'd guess.
I guess everyone is going to be slangin tablets with controllers built in for game streaming. Makes sense for sony to do an official one.
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Ha. You wish they would release that soon. We haven't even gotten through Days Gone, TLOU Pt. 2, and Ghosts yet. Spring/Fall 2020 is the real release timeframe.
Yup, no confirmation yet is understandable. It's just crazy if Sony doesn't name it that.
The Last of Us released June 14, 2013. The PS4 released November 15th that same year.
Anyone who seriously thinks PS5 won't have BC with PS4 titles is beyond helping.
All I will add to this conversation is that there's a difference between a company being anti-consumer and a company having an inferior service component compared to its rivals.
Is Sony's decision to cut off digital-library support for PSOne/2 Classics on PS4, in spite of them having a working PSP/PS2 emulator anti-consumer? Yes.
Is Sony's refusal to support refunds at a system-level anti-consumer? It is, if they absolutely refuse to support it. But if let's say - they're working on it, but is simply much slower? That's not anti-consumer. That's just incompetence.
Is Sony's inferior quality of customer service compared to (insert rival) anti-consumer? No. It just means their quality of offering there is inferior.
For context, as someone who lives in Malaysia, Xbox and Nintendo's customer service support here is downright horrendous because they do not have a direct support line in this particular region. On the contrary, Sony's pretty good. But that doesn't make those two companies with inferior customer support here as anti-consumer, because they have better support in other regions and it's a matter of their focus.
Lateral thinking is kind of Nintendo and Microsoft's ballgame. Sony will excel by just making a more powerful Playstation.
In for the slim model revision if it's backwards compatible with PS4 discs and downloads.
Edit: To elaborate, I'm referring to the tablet thing. That doesn't feel like a very "Sony" move. I'd expect that more from Nintendo or Microsoft. Playstation's move for next gen will mostly just be a better, stronger console. The company has plenty to leverage in the mobile space already anyway with their Aniplex properties. Fate GO alone makes like a billion dollars per year.
In for the slim model revision if it's backwards compatible with PS4 discs and downloads.
Edit: To elaborate, I'm referring to the tablet thing. That doesn't feel like a very "Sony" move. I'd expect that more from Nintendo or Microsoft. Playstation's move for next gen will mostly just be a better, stronger console. The company has plenty to leverage in the mobile space already anyway with their Aniplex properties. Fate GO alone makes like a billion dollars per year.
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Uncharted 3 released in 2011 and ND had already started working on TLOU before then. It wasn't a stretch of the imagination for the timeframes to line up the way they did especially with Sony's commitment to still delivering games for PS3 the year of PS4's release. However, the ball is in Sony's court this time and they have the freedom to stretch out a little bit more. They are in no rush to bring PS5 to market next year. Next E3 will be a teaser about PS5 at most just like MS teased Scarlet this year.
Is somebody paying to shit on Sony?
Lack of 4K Blu-ray is anti-consumer?
If your home comes without a swimming pool is that anti-consumer too?
It's fun watching people try and create a narrative. Zero issues with infrastructure or customer service from my end, nothing being reported other than individual issues.
Cross play is being looked at now and BC will be not an issue moving forward (x86 insures that). Cross play only served to help the weaker competition.Apart from the Fortnite issue, who cares about playing against people on rival consoles, friends usually play on the same console.
The market is behind the PS4 overwhelmingly so.
Since 2016 or even earlier, SIE has made it known publicly that they've been working internally within Sony group to look at different avenues to broaden PlayStation.
The only known project that was revealed publicly was Project FIELD shown below, which aims to create a platform for physical card games to digital.
Day 1095 for me. Don't want to buy one and see another Pro released. Hated that.
Have there actually been rumours about Sony having a dedicated streaming device?
I have seen all the Microsoft news about it and I wouldn't be surprised about Sony continuing to develop it since they already do streaming but I haven't seen any news about rumours of it happening here.
I have seen all the Microsoft news about it and I wouldn't be surprised about Sony continuing to develop it since they already do streaming but I haven't seen any news about rumours of it happening here.
Also, I could easily see their cloud service as lacking going into next gen. PSNow is a complete disaster and probably a service they'll continue to push over real BC. I'd rather not pay a monthly fee to stream 720p RDR rather than putting a disc in once and getting a digital license.
Ps now is a dedicated streaming service.
Edit: derp. Thats says device.
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PS5 will be like a PS4 Pro+ so full BC with much more powerful hardware. People can then make games for PS4 that will run better on "PS5" during initial launch phase or have "PS5" exclusives taking full advantage of the hardware.
I think it will have some VR secret sauce built in but we will wait at least a year after launch to see how that works when they launch PSVR2.
I think it will have some VR secret sauce built in but we will wait at least a year after launch to see how that works when they launch PSVR2.
I think its too soon for a ps5 release in 2019, the ps4 is on a roll right now and killing its momentum right now would be a bad bussines decision. I say a 2021 release would be wise keep the system some more in the oven and make sure we get the best hardware for the best price.
If they release a PS5 next year, they can release a new 7nm revision super slim PS4 at 199 dollars/euros.
Not the same market than a 399 dollars PS5...
Same if they release PS5 in 2020.
You're obviously suffering from stockhom syndrome, like the 80 million + other users out there...
That's all I want to hear. Now launch thiy baby in October or November 2020 and I'm there day 1!
Agree! Ocotber/November 2020.
They're drowning us in quality exclusives as part of their anti-consumer stance. Drowning us. Too much of a good thing here.
between the "anti consumer", "2019", and now "PS4 Pro Pro" i don't even know where to start in this thread
Sony are behaving no differently now than they did in the comeback years of the PS3. The difference is that MS fell so far behind that they have been going above and beyond to be Pro consumer that Sony looks like they are behaving like old Sony. Crossplay fiasco aside of course.
To be fair, the "anti consumer" thing is being paraded around by one obvious console warrior.
PS5 for November 2020 makes the most sense.
If it was for me? I would prefer November 2021, let the PS4 lives extra one year than the 7th years of life cycle... it's on freaking fire.
If it was for me? I would prefer November 2021, let the PS4 lives extra one year than the 7th years of life cycle... it's on freaking fire.
Lack of 4k Blu-ray isn't anti-consumer. Nor is the fact you personally don't like the design of the store.
A lot of what he stated is actually anti-consumer. Being anti-consumer just means having policies that restrict consumers or potential consumers to your brand.
When cross-play is becoming popular and only one company is holding out, while lying about their stance on cross-play, it is anti-consumer.
When a company pays a company to only sell for them for a certain amount of time, it is anti-consumer because it locks that to them. You can bet your ass if Sonya had a tremendous share of the market, that this would be considered illegal for example.
The difference is only that the market is fairly competitive, so its not like lawsuits are going to come into play, but it doesn't change the fact that those policies are anti-consumer. I believe some anti-consumer practices are necessary in some industries to differentiate between their competitors though, so exclusives don't really bother me. Its okay to back Sony (I had a PS1, PS2, PS3, and a PS4, but lets not forget what anti-consumer policies are.
So what exactly is Microsoft doing? You certainly aren't talking about them charging for F2P online or their piss poor exclusive output this gen or their microtransaction shenanigans.
Not necessarily referring to yourself here Jumper, but it'll be interesting to see if all the team greens who are vehemently opposed to platform exclusive deals will be singing the same tune when we start seeing exclusive 3rd party streaming deals on xCloud - because they will come.
A quick look at your post history shows page after page of venom towards Playstation.
We get it. You're not a fan.
Haha. Right?? :D
Sony has a long history of dabbling in 'unconventional' side projects and business experiments, so I'm not sure where that perception's coming from.
I'm not sure about this tablet rumour or what it would mean specifically, but it wouldn't be so surprising.
Well, I think the only thing that could surprise me there would be a completely self-contained machine.
But when streaming becomes a bigger 'thing' - and maybe next-gen is the time - then a cheap and optimised thin client tablet for streaming would be inevitable for Playstation given their history with remote play and their interest in streaming. Collaboration with the tablet division on some tech to embed in Sony tablets to reduce latency or whatnot on generic Sony tablets? Maybe. A controller dock for generics? Maybe. The one variation that seems unlikely would be some separate local-play tablet machine ala Switch, for example.
All that said, this particular rumour is vague. But if they're going to make a push on streaming next-gen, then a suite of cheap thin PS clients in various configurations and/or collaboration with their other divisions on optimisations in existing device types for those services, would make total sense.
(I don't think this means streaming services would be exclusive to such devices btw. Far from it. But I could see them marketing branded thin clients for the segments of the market that want to use something more game-y or that don't necessarily have access to their own generic device e.g. kids)
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Sony has offered more opportunities for crossplay than other console manufacturers until Microsoft opened up the gates with Rocket League and Fortnite in the last year. And now Sony is following suite. Hardly this big demon of a consumer-hating company that has caused so much ill will that they are gonna fail next gen.