I feel I can speak for the rest of my Mexican brethren that we can totally relate to the idea of an illegal alien piggybacking off some white guy
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'Venom' Box Office: Dramatically Diverse Audience Makes for Record October Opening
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Not really surprise given that representation in the media is bad plus along with not being much to watch, Venom is the only choice left.
White folks have bad taste as well.
Sam Raimi.
From reports I have heard, Spider-Verse does a good job in highlighting that Miles is mixed race.
Plus I rewatched Homecoming and I didn't noticed just how diverse the cast was during my watching. Neat.
Well to be fair what other movie is there to watch? Though I don't plan to watch it.
White folks have bad taste as well.
Sam Raimi.
From reports I have heard, Spider-Verse does a good job in highlighting that Miles is mixed race.
Plus I rewatched Homecoming and I didn't noticed just how diverse the cast was during my watching. Neat.
Well to be fair what other movie is there to watch? Though I don't plan to watch it.
Yeah. People ignore that outside of Justice League, the other DCEU movies have been quite successful financially, and what really killed JL was the crazy high budget from extensive reshoots. Venom is the inverse where the budget is relatively low at $100M, so it's successful even if it falls short of MCU and DCEU movies.
Doubt the others hit as hard as Venom, but if they manage to keep the budgets low, they can have profitable Venomverse. Like, that Resident Evil film franchise lasted six or seven movies because they were low budget and saw healthy returns.
Everyone was all too eager to erase Topher Grace Venom from their minds.
For real though, kids my age growing up loved Venom. I remember when Maximum Carnage came out, and Venom teaming with Spidey had some major hype behind it. Too bad the game was mediocre.
For real though, kids my age growing up loved Venom. I remember when Maximum Carnage came out, and Venom teaming with Spidey had some major hype behind it. Too bad the game was mediocre.
It wasn't good by any means, but there's some things to like about it.
Seriously guys, look at what released in theaters recently. The house with clocks in it, smallfoot, night school and a star is born. 2 of those are family movies, 1 is a niche comedy and then a romantic drama. Hell yea people want to see a superhero/action flick when there is nothing else that is there. And the Star is Born isn't going to appeal to wider audiences when it's straight up made for Caucasians to relate to, ez
Us 90s kids have bond that can't be broken
Bowl of cereal watching Spider-Man 90s tv show after school on fox goat childhood
Critics and audiences were on the same page for this movie. It's a bad movie with a fun Tom Hardy performance.
Don't discount the Dave Chappelle bump for A Star is Born.
What was the Sunday drop like? I kind of feel like word of mouth is pretty good despite critics trashing it. I am curious to see next weekend for sure.
The symbiotic being the main draw as something distinctly inhuman that is more than just some fabric that XYZ person wears allows for, I think, broader appeal. Is Venom (Eddie Brock Venom) 'white' or is he 'Venom'?
The whole symbiots, bonding, referring to the self as 'we' abstracts the degree of the characters appeal from being as closely influenced by common racial signifiers. Venom merely is, as a transformation between Symbiote and host.
They're gonna fuck up the first film (Bloodshot) and that's the end of the Valiant Cinematic Universe.
Where have we heard that before :P
No chance Blooshot fails. Not when Venom shows up during the mid credit scene.
Twist: The VCU and SMCU are one in the same.
You know that Sony would be crazy enough to try it. Hell, let's get the new Men in Black in on this and rope Hemsworth into the action. You know that having 'Thor' involved in Sony's amalgam universe would drive some attention!
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Sony has their black panther on deck
Don't @ me with that Spawn and Blade bullshit
How do you know all this shit? Or do you just Google it? I'm over here thinking I'm hot shit because I own multiple X-Men omnibus's.
Oh not that high. I thought it was still at like 25% RT. I'd give it a solid 73%. I know thats not how RT works but if I had to give a score out of 100.
Hell, about 25% better box office than I expected. I still don't really know why so many people were interested, but good on them, I suppose.
Movies not that bad. It's definitely watchable and Tom Hardy's performance was pretty fun. Like if I gave it a score out of ten it's a six. I liked it.
Most superhero films are fairly white (to the detriment of their world building, but I digress) so it makes sense that the audience there is white, but Venom's cast is mostly white too, unless Riz Ahmed is bringing in all the non-white audience by himself which is doubtful.
Venom is/was 38%W/26%H/18%AA/11%A/6%O
Captain America: Civil War was 48%W/22%H/18%AA/9%A/4%O
Guardians Vol 2 was 58/17/13/7/4
Spidey: Homecoming was 51/21/13/10/5
Avengers: AOU was 50/20/16/10/5
Wonder Woman was 52/22/14/9/4
My source for all those movies is the MPAA itself in their annual reports.
I don't know if anything else from Sony outside the Symbiotes and Spider-man himself will catch on. That said, WB spent $1.1B on the first 5 DCEU films, and Sony spent $100M on Venom. Venom will finish within $100M of Justice League's worldwide gross (perhaps within $50M) on a third of the budget. I don't think that the Spider-people Cinematic Universe will hit DCEU gross totals any time soon, but it could be more consistently profitable if audiences buy into future films and if budgets stay smart.
The 90s when I was a little kid where the only time where I was reading comics and watching cartoons based on comics and Im sure the same is true for a lot of people, the coorporations doing these movies also know this
I now want this. Make Venom the Tony Stark of the Spider-less Spider-man Cinematic Universe (SSCM).
I didn't see it yet, but Eddie, Anne, and Cletus are all white, while Riz Ahmed is playing Carlton Drake. Those are the main roles in the film.
The majority of the supporting roles are non-white actors, and two of the white leads are women. Looks like progress to me.
There's an emerging trend of non-white and female actors in more prominent roles. After the success of Black Panther and Crazy Rich Asians, the industry is coming around to the fact that diverse casts are profitable.
I guess it's progress by superhero film standards, but I wouldn't call white women and a few minor roles for non-white characters "diverse", they need to do far more than that to impress me.
Not that I don't enjoy superhero movies btw, they're the only movies I pay to see consistently, but damn if it doesn't break my immersion when they constantly do apocalyptic events and the only people to defend Earth are white people and T'Chala.
When I watch a movie where very few scenes are full of white men calling all the shots and propelling the story, I consider that movie diverse.
There can't and won't be one great stride to the ideal outcome. The industry still has a long way to travel and I see absolutely no use in ignoring the way life usually works and shrugging at concrete steps in the right direction.
Yoo lol this made me burst out laughing at midnight with a house full of sleep in laws.