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Assuming Switch's 2019 revision is more powerful, should Nintendo allow exclusive games for it?
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I think people get this idea because of the couple of exclusives new 3ds had
If they do, I'll sell my launch Switch and make very sure Nintendo got not a cent of money from me for the remainder of the Switch life, minimum
But it won't happen. Nintendo can be dumb but not that dumb
But it won't happen. Nintendo can be dumb but not that dumb
The Switch will only be 2.5 years old by that point. Why piss off all those users who jumped in early?
3DS essentially just got like 3 major exclusives, right? Xenoblade Chronicles (which is a wii game), minecraft, and FE Warriors which are on other platforms as well.
Then there's the SNES VC, maybe Wii VC eventually becomes Switch Pro exclusive or something. Don't imagine it would ever be lucrative to make actual exclusives for it.
Yeah, it'd be super awesome if the system I bought only got full support for 3 years.
What are you guys on, seriously
What are you guys on, seriously
They did it with the original 3DS and Wii U and didn't suffer any long standing consequences so why not continue?
Nvidia can make new Chips anytime if Nintendo wants and pays, the question is compatibility, but i don't think that will be a big problem.
I mean even if they allow it we don't know if 3rds would really want to. Leaving that big Switchbase behind.. they probably would make a Switchgame instead. Later on perhaps, if the rumoured new Switch sells like hot cakes. Many ifs.
That said i don't think it's exactly the same situation and we all know that Nintendo does things differently. Look at their voicechat.
It was such a half hearted effort on 3DS though that it makes me wonder if they even view it as a legitimate strategy.
When was there a Wii U revision?
And the n3DS XL launched 4 years after the original. And was there any sign that those exclusives actually did well?
If it was a 2020 revision I could see a power increase, but I'm going to assume it'll be a cosmetic change, maybe a new screen or a revision with the dock.
That would be the worst case situation. Even if it ends up being a few games (and I honestly don't expect it being more since I believe most devs would want to target the entire platform with the larger user base), that would really piss people off since the current model will be 2.5 years old at that point. I honestly cannot see a better way for Nintendo to completely destroy any goodwill they got back with the Switch.
I think the future is revisions every 2 years or so. Things like the PS4 Pro and the XOX will be common, and the way engines are being built, the platform stability will be welcomed by publishers.
If that's the case, then the console industry becomes similar to phones, and so you'd expect a console to be compatible with all new games for at least 5 years
If that's the case, then the console industry becomes similar to phones, and so you'd expect a console to be compatible with all new games for at least 5 years
It is still the best tech in the market... no progress was made in that regard.
X2 has the same power at a bit lower power draw... X2 won't give any substancial power to Switch unless you believe an increase like XB1 to XB1 S is a big deal.
With so many games having adaptive resolution, I could see it just playing existing and future games better.
Well, maybe the OP is thinking about how Xenoblade is on the n3ds but not the 3ds
There wasn't A Wii U revision, but they abandoned the system in a similar timeframe burning early and any adopters.
The 3DS had several issues for early adopters, one was the price drop in its 2nd year, another was the later release of the XL model and the final was the more powerful New 3DS model. The system is still current today and I doubt there are very many folks still happily using their launch system given the number of improvements since.
In terms of New 3DS exclusives there was enough to make a difference (Xenoblade, Fire Emblem Warriors, Minecraft) and also titles like Hyrule Warriors which performed poorly on the original. As well as the Snes VC being exclusive to New.
Heck no. I expect such a thing to happen eventually, but 2019 is far too soon for it to happen. Maybe with the "New Switch" or "Switch 2.0" refresh 4-5 years after launch, but a mere 2 years from launch is too abrupt.
Nintendo allowed this to happen in the past so it's a possibility.
Even if they allow only one PS4 port you are not very interested in? Come on.
Yeah, not many at least and not at launch of the new Switch. If it sold millions of consoles and some thirds want to port some games that really wouldn't run on Switch, don't know, it's not impossible. What i don't understand is why some people are angry on the idea allone. As if a few 3rd party releases would make the original Switch obsolete, that's not going to happen.
From a personal perspective, I'd be fine with it. From a business perspective, I think it would be a mistake barring something unforeseen that we are unaware of (example-offering streaming options to OG Switch hardware). Also splitting the user base for a handful of 3rd Party games doesn't seem that wise as those games probably won't sell that great at first anyway.
Was Xenoblade Chronicles 3D not exclusive to New Nintendo 3DS alone?
I could not find much info on google because the replies came back as both yes and no
Can't imagine it will upgrade the specs so soon, but it would be funny if it does not.
Imagine the posters on every Switch thread randomly going "NO MORE 720P GAMES!" like they do now with 3DS games when they are anounced ("NO MORE 240P GAMES!")
Imagine the posters on every Switch thread randomly going "NO MORE 720P GAMES!" like they do now with 3DS games when they are anounced ("NO MORE 240P GAMES!")
Doubt it, games will simply run better. Pretty sure Switch Pro will become the next standard Switch while the og Switch will become a low-budget option. One will be marketed as the perfect console to play Pokemon and AC while the standard will be like promoted alongside not only Pokemon but also MP4 and the likes.
Sure, as they did for the DSi and new 3DS lines. Thing is, most developers will want to target the widest possible audience, so they will make games with the OG model in mind more often than not.
The Wii U continued to get first-party support until the Switch launched (though 2016 was very slow). The 3DS actually got a price cut within its first year and Nintendo gave existing owners 10 NES and 10 GBA games as sort of a peace offering. It is true that the 3DS XL came out about a year later but the OG 3DS was fully compatible with everything released until New 3DS. Mind you, at least on forums, the exclusivity of the few New 3DS games did garner some backlash (and that came 4 years after the OG), but the games were, for the most part, not high profile enough to garner major backlash from the mainstream. For Switch that situation can be quite different depending on what turns into an exclusive. In addition, the Switch is getting far more media attention than 3DS received, so the backlash could be quite severe.
The only New 3DS exclusive games of note, as far as I know at least, were ports of older games. If Switch's new revision were to get ports of new games and the OG version didn't get them, that'd pretty much guarantee that I would not be an early adopter for Nintendo's hardware ever again.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Nintendo produce millions of Wii Us early on and they failed to sell through them for years?
There's a ton of reasons to not revise the Wii U, especially if you still have stock left to sell
There's a ton of reasons to not revise the Wii U, especially if you still have stock left to sell
Nah, only got a switch last year, and don't care about getting a pro (I still use my Og ps4 and didn't upgrade)
I'm we take at face value the idea that they'll turn "Switch" into a platform like iOS or Android (Didn't Iwata mention something like that?) and every other generation the games just stop running on older hardware, I personally think that's a good idea. If there was a New Nintendo Switch every 3 or 4 years, with complete account persistence and backwards compatibility and just better specs, with the only downside being that a Switch from 2017 can't run the software that comes out in 2022 or something, I'd be fine with that. I'm probably describing it poorly, but think of it like trying to run the hot new Mobile banger of winter 2018 on an iPhone 4. THAT would be a shit experience.
They should if a 3P was crazy enough to do it. I don't see the upgrade being anywhere near that significant though.
People would bitch about it for a couple days. I'm selling my system this, Screw Nintendo that, and then all is forgiven when the majority of those people realize that the games that were exclusive aren't even titles they really bought the platform for.
That's what makes this idea so crazy though. The AAA 3rd parties that would be supporting this system exclusively didn't do all that well. Doom's performance seems OK at best for all the hype behind it and its position as the sole FPS. Wolf was a failure. Why would any of these 3rd parties give a damn about a reduced userbase when they can't even sell to the existing one?
I want them to go that route too. Refresh every two years and drop platforms based on need. Developers wouldn't rush to support the new system exclusively anyway since they like money. If anything, Hyrule Warriors situations would be more likely than dropping the original hardware.
Anything so I don't have to experience the worst of Wolf II undocked ever again.
People would bitch about it for a couple days. I'm selling my system this, Screw Nintendo that, and then all is forgiven when the majority of those people realize that the games that were exclusive aren't even titles they really bought the platform for.
That's what makes this idea so crazy though. The AAA 3rd parties that would be supporting this system exclusively didn't do all that well. Doom's performance seems OK at best for all the hype behind it and its position as the sole FPS. Wolf was a failure. Why would any of these 3rd parties give a damn about a reduced userbase when they can't even sell to the existing one?
I want them to go that route too. Refresh every two years and drop platforms based on need. Developers wouldn't rush to support the new system exclusively anyway since they like money. If anything, Hyrule Warriors situations would be more likely than dropping the original hardware.
Anything so I don't have to experience the worst of Wolf II undocked ever again.
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They abandoned the WiiU in 2.5 years? What? Nintendo were they only ones putting any damn effort into the thing, and it was plainly clear that the system was dead in the water with no momentum. 2016 was a wash but only to enable the buildup to the Switch. But either way, Nintendo put out some of the best software they had released in years on the WiiU, so it sure as hell isn't like they just abandoned the damn thing like the Vita. An outright generation shift isn't an argument.
And you're talking about a handheld that has been on the market for 7.5 years. Of course there have been revisions. The weak-ass launch is maybe the only thing you have for a point, but the 3DS is hardly comparable to outright cutting off users 2.5 years in.
We know they did not manage to sell through their holiday 2012 shipment, but based on statements from late President Iwata back in 2014 (I think, it might have been later) they had to produce new units to meet demand for Smash 4, MK8, etc.
People actually voted yes?? A mid gen refresh should never have exclusive games. If they pulled that stunt I'd sell my Switch and write Nintendo off.
That's what Sega did pushing the CD, 32X and then the Saturn right on top of each other. Going back that's also what Atari did making the 5200 when the 2600 was still perfectly viable and then they were supposed to push the 7800 not long after that before it ended up being shelved after a couple of years. Wonder why those guys stopped making consoles.