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Jeff6851

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Going amp shopping today. Budget around $400. Thinking of getting the Boss Katana and using the leftover money on a delay pedal.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Going amp shopping today. Budget around $400. Thinking of getting the Boss Katana and using the leftover money on a delay pedal.

Katanas are great. I really like my Peavey Vypyr 3 but it has a lot of bells and whistles you may not use (I don't use a lot of it's features).

As far as delay pedals go, I have used my Boss DD3 for a really long time and it gets the job done. Fairly affordable too.
 

fadedbones

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hey all,

I'm a newish guitar owner only recently starting to get into serious practice/improvement in the past year or so through classes offered through college. Last semester I took a beginner guitar class, learned the notes in the first position but that was it. Now this semester I'm taking private lessons and have joined an ensemble at the request of the instructor, and I'm really starting to worry about how I'm practicing or if I'm making any kind of applicable growth.

As of right now I've been given about a dozen+ chords to learn and a piece of music to go along with some of them. What I'm having issues with is actually getting the chords to stick in my head/hands. I try to practice for an hour every day or so, dividing up the time into groups of chords that are relatively easy to transition to/from, while trying to be mindful of position, chord name, posture, etc and through that I've gotten the mechanics of barre chords down which was huge for me because I thought they were impossible for a bit haha.

But I'm feeling like my practice regimen isn't enough. My instructor wants me to be able to play this stuff without looking down at the neck, which makes sense as I should be looking at the sheet music, but learning like that feels... really challenging. I don't know how much more music I'll have to learn within the next couple of months but at the rate I'm going now it's a little daunting.

Any advice? Is it just a case of having to practice even more? x(
 

teruterubozu

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Oct 28, 2017
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Considering this Les Paul Studio:

https://buffalo.craigslist.org/msg/d/fs-ft-gibson-les-paul-studio/6691599553.html


Any thoughts on the swapped out pickups? Anything specifically I should look for when checking it out? How about the price?

That is a really great price. Cool that he is also including the original pots, caps and boost switch. The original has Burstbucker pickups, but the Seymour Duncan '59 and Pearly Gates are great too - really depends on what kind of sound you like, it's neither a downgrade or an upgrade, just different. Locking Grover tuners are definitely an upgrade. He's right though, a Gibson at that price won't last too long.
 

Hero_of_the_Day

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Oct 27, 2017
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Looking at ebay, that seems like a good price. Similar models seems to go for around $850, sometimes more.

Don't know that I have played those pickups in particular. But, SD makes awesome pickups. Their Alnico II's are my favorite humbucker ever, especially in the neck. My PRS Singlecut has that and an SH14 in the bridge. Fucking love 'em.
 

hombremalo

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Just picked this squire affinity for 60 Euros , I feel like a kid with a new toy.
 

Zojirushi

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I'm thinking about picking up an Ibanez AEG10nII Electric Acoustic as a starting guitar. Seems like it's pretty versatile and people seems to like it. Any reason why it might be a bad choice?
 

Supa Necta

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Oct 25, 2017
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Picked up the Les Paul this morning. Was able to try it at the sellers place and it sounded great. It's set up really well with low action.

With the American Special strat and the monoprice 15W amp I picked up last month I should be set for a while.
 

Heynongman!

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Oct 25, 2017
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So I just filed a return for my Boss Katana 100. Man what a bummer. I like the clean channel a lot, and the effects are great, but I just could not get the distortion to sound good at all especially for high gain work - wayyyy too fizzy and just nothing did it for me. Messed with it for around a month with and without the software, and I cannot dial anything I like in. Going amp shopping...again Saturday. I was wondering if y'all had some suggestions for me. I live in an apartment so I can't crank a tube :(

I'm looking to demo the following -

1. Peavey 6505 MH - goes down to 1 watt, and I have a my Blackstar HT5 that I can use the speaker on. Might still be too loud?
2. Orange Crush CR60 - Demos on Youtube sound incredible, but the Katana fooled me there too so I want to get a real feel for it first. It has a master volume, but I think it might still be too loud.
3. Orange Brent Hinds Terror - goes down to .5 watts, and actually from what I've heard treats that as an output volume cut so the tone isn't affected. Might still be too loud and is a little higher than I want to spend, but eh.
4. Marshall DSL20 - I know for a fact this will be too loud, but I need to know haha.

I want to avoid modeling amps - I want something simple that has its own voice.

Anyone have any more ideas for me to try out? I'm trying to try as many as possible because I'm tired of being let down haha.
 

teruterubozu

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Oct 28, 2017
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I used to have the Orange CR60C, I liked it so much I upgraded to the CR120C. Of all the solid state amps I've tried the Orange Crush series easily has the most realistic tube-like gain out of them all. It has bold crunchy distortion plus the reverb is absolutely superb. The dials are no-nonsense too, you just dial-in the tone and go. I watched tons of youtube vids and reviews on the Orange Crush and they are all pretty much spot on. They are built like tanks too, extremely solid with no cheap-ass parts. But they're also pretty loud.

I still think you should check out the Yamaha THR10X. It's the ultimate apartment amp with mind-blowing distortion sound - in stereo! It's unbelievable what kind of sound comes out of the lunchpail. I just plug in and play, no fiddling around with settings and stuff. I use the Orange for gigs and the THR10X for home and I'm fully satisfied.

I used to have the VOX VT40X and tried out the Katana 50, but yeah, I just can't get into modeling amps and their saturated distortion. It just doesn't cut through the mix. I decided that if I have to go into a computer to fiddle around and tweak the sound then it's a no-go. A good amp has to be satisfying from the moment you plug in and go.

Picked up the Les Paul this morning. Was able to try it at the sellers place and it sounded great. It's set up really well with low action.

With the American Special strat and the monoprice 15W amp I picked up last month I should be set for a while.

Nice score! Post some pics! I have an American Special Strat too. Killer guitar!
 

Supa Necta

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Sure I'll post some pics this weekend. Yeah the special is awesome. Got a smoking deal as it was road worn to hell. 2 owners back completely sanded off the clear coat so it has this candy apple red matte look.
 

Heynongman!

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But they're also pretty loud.
This was all great to hear, until you mentioned this. So even on the 60 with the master volume lower it would be too loud for an apartment or what's your take?

I kinda hate solid states that treat their volume as all or nothing, like why even bother?

Do you know off the top of your head if the 35 or lower are voiced differently in any way? The 35 at least had a headphone jack on it. I'll be testing them this weekend, but it's so hard to tell what's too loud in a loud ass music store lol

I worry with the THR that I'll end up disappointed again but I'll check it out. Thanks for the suggestion
 

Chaosblade

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Anyone know of some good cheap guitars around $400? I wanna start out

I was in a similar situation except looking at closer to $300 for the guitar alone and went with the Yamaha Pacifica. 112J and 120H retail for $300 and seemed like a near consensual best option for that price point. Another $100 or so went toward getting a setup done and some accessories like an audio interface for the PC.

There was a post 10 pages back or so with some recommendations around the $300-400 price point.
 

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Imo buying 300-400$ guitars is not ideal.

If you stick with it you'll upgrade and have just "wasted" 3-400 bucks.

If you want to sell it there is no resale value for it.

Buying a 800-1000 $ guitar is giving you a studio / pro grade instrument (was not always the case) that is going to make you play more and if you decide to stop, it still has a lot of resale value. And no need to further upgrade.
 

teruterubozu

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This was all great to hear, until you mentioned this. So even on the 60 with the master volume lower it would be too loud for an apartment or what's your take?

I kinda hate solid states that treat their volume as all or nothing, like why even bother?

Do you know off the top of your head if the 35 or lower are voiced differently in any way? The 35 at least had a headphone jack on it. I'll be testing them this weekend, but it's so hard to tell what's too loud in a loud ass music store lol

I worry with the THR that I'll end up disappointed again but I'll check it out. Thanks for the suggestion

I mean you can play it at low volumes but you will lack the fullness of the tone. Which is why I think the THR is the way to go with an apartment. You get rich sounds even at bedroom volume.

Imo buying 300-400$ guitars is not ideal.

If you stick with it you'll upgrade and have just "wasted" 3-400 bucks.

If you want to sell it there is no resale value for it.

Buying a 800-1000 $ guitar is giving you a studio / pro grade instrument (was not always the case) that is going to make you play more and if you decide to stop, it still has a lot of resale value. And no need to further upgrade.

There are plenty of very nice guitars for $300-$400, especially in the used market. Just as you say you can get pro grade these days at $800-$1000, you can also get a very good guitar at $300-$400 these day as well - which wasn't always the case. I started guitar with a crappy Hondo II Les Paul knockoff back in the early 80s. It was a terrible guitar. But today the "starter" guitars are very well made. The youth of today have no idea how great they have it. I would have been ecstatic to have a cheap Ibanez Gio, Squier Strat or Epiphone back then.
 

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Well I would always advice to buy used. I got a ESP Kh2 as my first guitar used for 1000€ and I played that beast for a good decade. Now it's my rehearsal guitar. Never needed to change a thing and was always pumped to play on it.
 

Heynongman!

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I mean you can play it at low volumes but you will lack the fullness of the tone. Which is why I think the THR is the way to go with an apartment. You get rich sounds even at bedroom volume.
Gotcha, I have a buddy of mine at work that suggested I just bite the bullet on some studio monitors for Bias FX, so I think that's the route I'll go. It's the cheapest option since I already have Bias, and if I can't get that to sound good, then I'm just gonna wait till I move to a house haha.
 

XenIneX

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Anyone know of some good cheap guitars around $400? I wanna start out
Acoustic? Electric? ...With amp? What music?

It's a pretty broad question...


Acoustic, you can't go wrong with something in the Yamaha FG800 series to start. Great money-for-value in the $200-$400 range.

Electric instrument-only, there's nothing wrong with $300+ Squiers, $400+ Epiphones, $300+ Ibanez's, etc. Really, most things in that price bracket are solid, these days. Get something comfortable that you don't hate the look of, which has a sound that roughly matches the music you're interested in.

Electric with amp, you'll need to split it out -- ~$200 for guitar, $100 for amp, $100 for accessories. I'd look at the Yamaha PAC112J as a solid $200 starter guitar. Amp-wise, the Blackstar ID:Core 10v2 -- or similar -- is fine at that price-point. Then, just add the usual accessory selection (cheap gig-bag, tuner, strap, cable, pick selection, and strings).


You can get a lot more guitar for less by going used, but prepare to do a hell of a lot of research first to make sure you're not getting shafted. Or, if you've got a buddy who knows guitars, offer them a couple free beers to come to the guitar store with you to test the merchandise.

Used solid state amps, on the other hand, are fine as long as they're not outright DOA. There's pretty good churn on starter amps, so you can probably find most anything you want for 30% off used.
 

out_of_touch

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I was in a similar situation except looking at closer to $300 for the guitar alone and went with the Yamaha Pacifica. 112J and 120H retail for $300 and seemed like a near consensual best option for that price point. Another $100 or so went toward getting a setup done and some accessories like an audio interface for the PC.

There was a post 10 pages back or so with some recommendations around the $300-400 price point.

Acoustic? Electric? ...With amp? What music?

It's a pretty broad question...


Acoustic, you can't go wrong with something in the Yamaha FG800 series to start. Great money-for-value in the $200-$400 range.

Electric instrument-only, there's nothing wrong with $300+ Squiers, $400+ Epiphones, $300+ Ibanez's, etc. Really, most things in that price bracket are solid, these days. Get something comfortable that you don't hate the look of, which has a sound that roughly matches the music you're interested in.

Electric with amp, you'll need to split it out -- ~$200 for guitar, $100 for amp, $100 for accessories. I'd look at the Yamaha PAC112J as a solid $200 starter guitar. Amp-wise, the Blackstar ID:Core 10v2 -- or similar -- is fine at that price-point. Then, just add the usual accessory selection (cheap gig-bag, tuner, strap, cable, pick selection, and strings).


You can get a lot more guitar for less by going used, but prepare to do a hell of a lot of research first to make sure you're not getting shafted. Or, if you've got a buddy who knows guitars, offer them a couple free beers to come to the guitar store with you to test the merchandise.

Used solid state amps, on the other hand, are fine as long as they're not outright DOA. There's pretty good churn on starter amps, so you can probably find most anything you want for 30% off used.
Perfect thanks guys <3




Imo buying 300-400$ guitars is not ideal.

If you stick with it you'll upgrade and have just "wasted" 3-400 bucks.

If you want to sell it there is no resale value for it.

Buying a 800-1000 $ guitar is giving you a studio / pro grade instrument (was not always the case) that is going to make you play more and if you decide to stop, it still has a lot of resale value. And no need to further upgrade.
You make a great point. For now i'll cross that bridge when I get to it
 

plngsplsh

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Oct 28, 2017
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PSA: Stretch and warm up your hands. Yesterday, I played again after not having touched my guitar for a long time; and of course, I did not stretch and overdid it. A stupid combination that resulted in aching hands and me having to take a break again.
 

Heynongman!

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Anyone here got a Player series Strat? I played one at Sam Ash the other day and fell in love, it was an HSH but I think and HSS or SSS would do me right, I want a guitar to keep in standard and get down on some blues, but an HSS would still let me get rowdy with it every so often.

How's the build quality over all? I checked out the Phil McKnight teardown and they look pretty dang solid, but would like to hear some owner thoughts or if y'all have heard anything that might sway me back toward another PRS SE.
 

teruterubozu

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Anyone here got a Player series Strat? I played one at Sam Ash the other day and fell in love, it was an HSH but I think and HSS or SSS would do me right, I want a guitar to keep in standard and get down on some blues, but an HSS would still let me get rowdy with it every so often.

How's the build quality over all? I checked out the Phil McKnight teardown and they look pretty dang solid, but would like to hear some owner thoughts or if y'all have heard anything that might sway me back toward another PRS SE.

The Player series is just a rebranding of the Made in Mexico Standard series. I have a MIM Standard and it's a great guitar. Plays great with a nice Strat-ty tone. I used to be a PRS guy in my youth but these days I prefer a Fender or Gibson, they just have more character and distinctive tone/sounds. I used to have a gorgeous Emerald Green '92 PRS Custom 24 Ten Top but I sold it and bought a Gibson SG. PRS is very versatile, sure, but I've never listened to a record and said, "wow, I love that PRS sound!" To each their own of course.
 

Heynongman!

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The Player series is just a rebranding of the Made in Mexico Standard series.
Yes and no, as far as I'm aware. The whole line has been upgraded with a new bridge from the US models and alnicos instead of ceramics. Those two changes are what are kind of pushing me that direction, the value seems insane. I'm kinda considering the Floyd model but every time I think about living with another floyd, I dunno hahaha. But HSS is probably the direction I'll go.
 

teruterubozu

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Yes and no, as far as I'm aware. The whole line has been upgraded with a new bridge from the US models and alnicos instead of ceramics. Those two changes are what are kind of pushing me that direction, the value seems insane. I'm kinda considering the Floyd model but every time I think about living with another floyd, I dunno hahaha. But HSS is probably the direction I'll go.

Yeah it has a newer bridge although I'm not sure how much of an upgrade it is. I have both a US and Mexican Strat and the bridges are both excellent. Also tough to say whether alnico is better than ceramic. Ceramic is usually hotter if you like blistering leads, but people also say alnico is warmer. Really a personal choice. One thing that bugs me about the newer models is the pau ferro fingerboards. I just prefer the look and feel of rosewood, although I guess it doesn't matter if you go with maple. Both of my Strats are HSS, good for rockin out.
 

Heynongman!

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Yeah it has a newer bridge although I'm not sure how much of an upgrade it is. I have both a US and Mexican Strat and the bridges are both excellent. Also tough to say whether alnico is better than ceramic. Ceramic is usually hotter if you like blistering leads, but people also say alnico is warmer. Really a personal choice. One thing that bugs me about the newer models is the pau ferro fingerboards. I just prefer the look and feel of rosewood, although I guess it doesn't matter if you go with maple. Both of my Strats are HSS, good for rockin out.
Ugh the Pau ferro is just so rotten, I tried two with it and could not stand it. Luckily I'm a big fan of maple.

Speaking of maple - kinda: I dunno if it's placebo or not but I played the maple top one back to back with the non topped, and it just seems so dull sounding acoustic. The standard had the more spanky tone I like. I'm probably just insane
 

Supa Necta

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I traded a used Switch and $240 for an essentially brand new 2015 Les Paul Special Double Cutaway in sunburst. Man what we're they thinking that year! It's like the Pontiac Aztek of guitars. The robo tuners work perfectly though and they're pretty cool. I haven't messed with any alternate tunings yet. The only flaw is bending a whole step on the 1st string above fret 13 kills the note completely. Hopefully I can fix it with some adjustments to the bridge height. It could be a fret defect too.
 

MotiD

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I have some free time these days and playing guitar is always something I wanted to try and never really got into.

Could someone recommend a decent but not pricey guitar I could get?
 

teruterubozu

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I have some free time these days and playing guitar is always something I wanted to try and never really got into.

Could someone recommend a decent but not pricey guitar I could get?

Electric or acoustic? Also what kind of music are you wanting to play? Do you have a budget in mind? Lots to consider.
 
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Got a new Schecter recently and got some Bare Knuckle pickups for it....sweet baby jesus these things sound INCREDIBLE. The only modern metal pickups that stack up to them are the SD Mark Holcomb set. Highly recommend them if anyone is considering swapping out a stock set. They're pricey but absolutely worth it.
 

MotiD

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Electric or acoustic? Also what kind of music are you wanting to play? Do you have a budget in mind? Lots to consider.
Sorry, meant to write acoustic but forget.
I mostly get my love for guitar play from rock and metal but I want to get an acoustic for budget and space considerations (and realistic expectations that it might end up gathering dust in a closet).
I'd say my budget would be somewhere around 200-250$
 

XenIneX

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Sorry, meant to write acoustic but forget.
I mostly get my love for guitar play from rock and metal but I want to get an acoustic for budget and space considerations (and realistic expectations that it might end up gathering dust in a closet).
I'd say my budget would be somewhere around 200-250$
Yamaha FG800. (or, FS800, if you want something slightly slimmer.) Best value-for-money in the price bracket, bar none.
 

MotiD

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Yamaha FG800. (or, FS800, if you want something slightly slimmer.) Best value-for-money in the price bracket, bar none.
It turns out my GF's dad used to play so I borrowed his guitar for now. It's classical tho.

I'll see what progress I can make and if I think I'll stick to playing and might end up going with your recommendation, or maybe even go electric at that point if I know I'll stick to it.

Thanks for the help
 

Zojirushi

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Boy this chord stuff is frustrating as fuuuuck. Like that G chord is almost literally breaking my fingers lol
 

Chaosblade

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Boy this chord stuff is frustrating as fuuuuck. Like that G chord is almost literally breaking my fingers lol

JustinGuitar has Dm in the second series of lessons, that one is such a struggle for me. I haven't practice switching to and from C and G at all, but just getting my fingers in position is significantly easier.
 

MotiD

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I don't think the classical guitar I borrowed from my GF's dad is in the best shape (the strings vibrate a lot and don't sound right when I try different chords), so I was looking at the price of the FG800 I was recommended a few posts above and it's quite pricey.

My 'end goal' if I actually learn to play guitar was electric guitar and it looks like you can actually get a statet pack with an amp for around the same price (where I live), but I don't know if this is actually a decent guitar & amp



Fender Squier Stratocaster HSS + Frontman 15G

https://www.amazon.com/Squier-Affinity-Stratocaster-Beginner-Amplifier/dp/B008F4URTM
 

MonoStable

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wow wish I knew this thread existed earlier could have saved me a lot of time. I bought my first guitar off Facebook 6 months ago, an Ibanez AS73 for $90. Been having fun with it I paid for some courses on udemy but ultimately got frustrated until I found justinguitar. So far I've learned all the open chord shapes and I can do an E-shaped bar chord ok (I usually get off time going in and out of it and its 50/50 whether I end up muting the B string or not). I can kinda do the A shaped double bar chord but pretty much break any rhythm I have if I try to use it in a song.

Do you guys think the guitar I have is worth taking into a shop to have them setup? I think it sounds ok but I have no reference, I went to guitar center once but got to shy to pick up any of the guitars they had since there were so many experienced players there. Been trying to get into some simple string bends and it seems half the time my fingers go under the string above it, I don't know if its my form or if the action is too high. Also what would be a reasonable price if I did take it in to get worked on?
 

Coolverine

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Is there any YouTube channel of good level guitarist testing/playing with cheap gear?

i watch this guy's stuff from time to time. He's a really good player and runs a pretty wide range of stuff he reviews. he's like a college student and isn't some high level "influencer" so he doesn't get shit thrown at him, his local sam ash lends him stuff. and he seems good about trying to highlight affordable alternatives to the big expensive boys.

*edit, though he i think almost exclusively focused on guitars.

https://www.youtube.com/user/thirdykal

for instance, this review: