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Report by IPCC: We have roughly 10 years to get climate change under control
- Thread starter Ottaro
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God this is depressing. I have been doing all that I can. Producing as little waste as possible, driving as little as possible, eating meat as little as possible, using as little electricity as possible, voting. I want humanity to have a future after I'm gone, but far too many people right here and now are unwilling to even address the massive problem we're facing. I have never felt so helpless...
Let's not be sensational when the very report linked to suggests we should be making 'sensational' changes immediately? You are clearly downplaying the situation and the report.
Overpopulation isnt killer when the only problematic growth seen in the world is from countries who barely consume resources/live in poverty.
Countries who consume resources at great rates are already on the path to reduce their population right now, so you are looking at either culling our own population or forcing black people in africa to have less kids right now if your solution to this problem is through population control.
Can't have a non click bait title now can't we? World's end... Feels like some early medieval day of Reckoning delusion
As a species we've been moving far too slowly to mitigate climate change. This has been clear for years. I'd like to hope that this report will spur additional meaningful action, but I'm not that delusional.
The only true solution I see is for the major economies of the world to do carbon capture and storage on a massive scale in the later half of this century when the technology is there. We'll need to see rapidly declining emissions by 2070 and to remove 40-50 billion tons of carbon - if I remember right - from the atmosphere per year.
It can be done, the money required to do it would only be fractional compared to the world economy of the time.
It can be done, the money required to do it would only be fractional compared to the world economy of the time.
It requires solutions from all aspects, pollution control, recycling, renewable energy.
But please, let's not lie that more people doesn't mean more problems.
Greatest population centres on Earth are China and India, there demands for resources and the pollution they are producing are a massive impact on climate issues and destruction of the habitat.
Population control is required, birth control is a good place to start.
People believing they can produce as much offspring as they wish must be educated against at least.
Not really, if humans keep cutting them down then yes it will be a clusterfck.
But in hotter climates, they thrive and produce more oxygen up until 40c.
Once past 40c we are fcked, humidity doesn't play a factor but simply base temps.
I don't believe and numbers until we can reliably predict the weather for more than a week.
I see all the changes and I am sure we are heading into a catastrophe but when became climate prediction hard science? I remember like 20 years ago most scientists were honest enough to say they are clueless.
Also, if it is hard science, why do all reports come to different results (besides them all warning it is too late already or will be pretty soon).
I see all the changes and I am sure we are heading into a catastrophe but when became climate prediction hard science? I remember like 20 years ago most scientists were honest enough to say they are clueless.
Also, if it is hard science, why do all reports come to different results (besides them all warning it is too late already or will be pretty soon).
Did we? Did we really?
Most "good runs" don't end with a bunch of old men pressing a red button labelled "Self destruct - don't press that button, idiots!" while thousands of people yell "don't press that button, idiots!"
Weather and climate are not the same. Climate "skeptics" always bring this up and it never stops being such an incredibly, deeply stupid thing to say.
Constant refinement of models and improved data. This isn't a difficult concept to grasp.
The only positive from this is that the planet will recover no matter if we go extinct or not. If those that survive do not build new societies around preservation and conservation then extinction is guaranteed.
P.S. We should always be a bit more pro active in making sure research is accurate, how one would go about determining accuracy of these predictions anyway? Science is not always accurate, but not acting is worse.
P.S. We should always be a bit more pro active in making sure research is accurate, how one would go about determining accuracy of these predictions anyway? Science is not always accurate, but not acting is worse.
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When one speaks of population control one doesnt speak of the now but of the future. Its true that china and indias population are big now but they always have been big, the greatest growth population wise in just plain numbers is going to come from africa(in fact, chinas population is gona start decreasing in about 10 years), you can just google this shit very easily the UN does reports all the time.
So like i said, you are looking at either culling your own or asking black people in africa to follow western orders.
Also, big population doesnt equal big consumerism, India has 4 times the population of the united states but it produces less than half the pollution than the US does.
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When an entire generation flourished at the expense of future generations:
Gonna be an interesting lifetime to say the least.
Gonna be an interesting lifetime to say the least.
Even if we survived, we would eventually have to escape our own sun and split up through space in all directions just to probably never make it anywhere near a possible hospitable planet. We all die, the end
We are fucked regardless. Don't despair, and give meaning to what little time we have left
We are fucked regardless. Don't despair, and give meaning to what little time we have left
Climate Change deniers, especially those in elected positions, should be thrown in jail. If someone tried to actively ensure billions of people died just to secure their own financial position they would be considered among the worst humans to ever walk the earth, this situation is no different.
CSS isn't economically sensible right now. It would be if they applied a sufficiently high carbon price.
Exactly. Even if I can afford to upgrade my piece of crap Ford Fiesta from 2003 right now, I'm waiting until that fucker cannot actually be fixed before it goes to the big car park in the sky.
Same with my phone and I only replaced my ancient Samsung TV last year after the screen died. Still advertised it on freecycle and a dude picked it up who said he would fix it and give it to his kid.
Reduce, reuse, recycle. Only then does it make sense to replace.
Yeah, about that. The lottery already happened. It was called capitalism.
https://medium.com/s/futurehuman/survival-of-the-richest-9ef6cddd0cc1
Civilization was nice for a short while. At least we got to enjoy some of its finer benefits.
Looks like we'll be back to survival mode sooner than expected this century.
Looks like we'll be back to survival mode sooner than expected this century.
It'd be very good if fusion finally becomes a thing.
It could really enable stuff like vertical farming and even crazy shit like arcologies, which would in turn allow mankind to relinquish more turf to afforestation.
It could really enable stuff like vertical farming and even crazy shit like arcologies, which would in turn allow mankind to relinquish more turf to afforestation.
Change is essential however climate scientists have given 'last chance' deadlines every year for the last 20 years and each and every one has been disregarded. A ten year deadline feels like kicking it down the road.
It must be gut wrenchingly horrible to be a climate scientist in our time.
What the fuck is the good of science if no one listens to you?
World will be fine. Some places are known to become inhospitable. It's not like 1 year we're going to see a massive shift. It will be a gradual one.
People in many developing nations will be forced to deal with some of the worst effects, yes. But the United States is also projected to be one of the most strongly affected countries.
https://www.vox.com/2018/9/26/17897614/climate-change-social-cost-carbon
Reading things like this always makes me feel so guilty for having a child, they're only 2 and wonderful, and are going to have to grow up to inherit all this shit. Sorry Son.
I really hope this becomes a larger talking point in US politics, and soon.
I wish it would, but I don't think it will until these catastrophic events start actually happening. Climate change denialism is just too strong.
