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Walker_Boh

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Robin Hood is going to be this year's King Arthur: Legend of the Sword and I'm going to have a great time in an empty theater and you're all going to be worse off for it.

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Remember when they were going to make six of these movies?
 

OrangeAtlas

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The best thing about King Arthur: Legend of the Sword - the first of six films in Guy Ritchie's Camelot Cinematic Universe - is that the movie never stops. It never breathes, it just keeps growing and growing.
 
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I think 8 of the 10 highest grossing films this year are all superhero films and the other two are A Quiet Place and Jurrasic World.... what makes so many people think Mary Poppins is going to capture some sort of cultural zeitgeist? Like, what is that based on exactly?

I have a hard time seeing any of those live action films stopping Spider-Verse from being the film of the Christmas season... and people think Venom is going to make more money that SV? yeesh
 

J_Viper

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I think 8 of the 10 highest grossing films this year are all superhero films and the other two are A Quiet Place and Jurrasic World.... what makes so many people think Mary Poppins is going to capture some sort of cultural zeitgeist? Like, what is that based on exactly?
Based on Jungle Book and B&tB both making a billion despite being hot trash
 

Anth0ny

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Ok so into the spiderverse will have infinity war hype, spidey ps4 hype and venom hype going into it


$1.8b confirmed



Please?
 

Seeya

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Venom $32.75m Friday
Solo $35.35m Friday

Solo had a weaker than normal Saturday (-30%) and a stronger than normal Sunday (-0.6%) If Venom has a good Saturday it could beat Solo's opening :P

Apparently they showed 35 minutes of the spiderverse movie at NYCC and people are beyond excited for the movie. The footage apparently exceeded the already high expectations. Looks like Sony gonna laugh all the way to the bank with venom and spiderverse

These movies never would have been made if Spidey was 100% MCU, and likewise we never would have gotten like at least a third of the MCU standalones if they'd always had all of their IPs. I'm glad that there has been fragmentation for the sake of exposure, diversity, and experimentation ( even if it doesn't always work out!).
 
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I wonder for how long Solo will retain it's title as our barometer for total bomba. Something really special would be needed to surpass it.
With Solo it was Star Wars and I don't think anyone really expected to do that bad. Nobody has any expectations for Venom.

By the way I was planning to see Venom twice out of sheer curiosity but both times bullshit happened so lucky me?
 

broncobuster

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I wonder for how long Solo will retain it's title as our barometer for total bomba. Something really special would be needed to surpass it.

I can't think of anything in the near future. Justice League only held that status for half a year. And what both have in common are the director mix up and extensive reshoots driving the budget up to absurd levels.

I guess you can point to Dark Phoenix? but I doubt that'll have a near $300M budget.
 
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Venom $32.75m Friday
Solo $35.35m Friday

Solo had a weaker than normal Saturday (-30%) and a stronger than normal Sunday (-0.6%) If Venom has a good Saturday it could beat Solo's opening :P

I love everything about this post.

Hey Cheebo , remember when you told me that Tom Hardy and Michelle Williams wouldn't choose a stinker of a script?

Good times.
 

Soundscream

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King Arthur is wild. There's a semi-random montage of Arthur surviving against giant animals.


Its such an odd movie. Its like the connective tissue you need to have a movie make sense was cut out and they just left the action scenes and montages in its place. It could have been a ok popcorn film but its just a mess.
 

Seeya

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I love everything about this post.

Hey Cheebo , remember when you told me that Tom Hardy and Michelle Williams wouldn't choose a stinker of a script?

Good times.

Considering the rumours of its tight shooting schedule with Sony offering less upfront but better percentages on the backend, I didn't think for one second that they weren't rolling the dice on getting into a superhero property with a popular character to take in some serious cash with guaranteed payday work if it does well. This is the exact strategy that Sony has been implementing to (from an outside perspective) inexplicably attract top talent over the last few years since Rothman took over. Tighter budhetary control and attracting known talent with strong backends and relatively short time commitments.
 

El Bombastico

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I wonder for how long Solo will retain it's title as our barometer for total bomba. Something really special would be needed to surpass it.

Solo and Justice League will remain the posters boys for bombs even if (when?) another films bombs even harder for a couple reasons:

1.) They were part of two powerful franchise that was thought impossible to outright flop. The worst anyone expected was "middling" box office and profits a la BvS.

2.) NO ONE saw it coming. All the box office pundits saw both films well over $100 million at the BO. Watching the box office predictions get lower and lower as Friday turned to Saturday was a hilarious experience that isn't often repeated.
 

hodayathink

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Venom $32.75m Friday
Solo $35.35m Friday

Solo had a weaker than normal Saturday (-30%) and a stronger than normal Sunday (-0.6%) If Venom has a good Saturday it could beat Solo's opening :P

Solo's Sunday was the day before a national holiday (Memorial Day). Venom's Sunday is the day before Columbus day. It's not gonna have anywhere near as good of a Sunday.
 
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Deadline had some interesting audience breakdown this week: https://deadline.com/2018/10/venom-a-star-is-born-weekend-box-office-lady-gaga-1202476614/

VENOM
Venom drew 68% males on PostTrak to 32% females, with 36% males over 25 the biggest group, followed by 32% guys under 25, 19% females over 25 (they loved it the most 85%; gotta be the Hardy factor), and females under 25 at 13%. A solid turnout here at 36% Caucasian, 27% Hispanic, 19% African American, 11% Asian and 6% Other. Venom played best in the West and South but was strong across the board we hear.


A STAR IS BORN
Females turned out at 66% to guys' 34%; both gave it a solid A. Over 50 bunch at 42% graded it A. Under 25ers may have been small in their turnout at 14%, but they loved the Cooper-directed movie the most with an A+. Those over 25 who made up 86% of the audience gave A Star Is Born an A. On PostTrak, 69% of the audience was Caucasian, 17% Hispanic, 4% African American and 7% Asian. A Star Is Born played best in the big cities, especially on the coasts: A majority of the top 10 runs were in New York or Los Angeles.
 

hodayathink

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Deadline is saying $27M Saturday for Venom. Anyone who had hopes of it passing Solo's OW, those dreams are dead unless that estimate goes up by a couple million.
 

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Deadline is saying $27M Saturday for Venom. Anyone who had hopes of it passing Solo's OW, those dreams are dead unless that estimate goes up by a couple million.

Well, Ruben also had Venom at a 60-65m OW 3 days ago.

If Venom does do 27m on Saturday then it would have a mere 17.6% drop OW F to S.

Better than

Suicide Squad -40.0%
BvS -37.9%
Solo -30.5%

I could see Sunday performing well, but maybe not -0.6% well. Isn't the Monday, Columbus Day, a national holiday in the United States?

"It is generally observed nowadays by banks, the bond market, the U.S. Postal Service, other federal agencies, most state government offices, many businesses, and most school districts. Some businesses and some stock exchanges remain open, and some states and municipalities abstain from observing the holiday."

I'm not all that familiar with how it compares to whatchamecallit that Solo had on its Monday. Here's hoping that Venom DOES bump up from there and has some cushion to barely sustain any ddisparity on Sunday while coming out ahead. XD

I'd like to look at some historical data for other films that opened with this setup during October, but there's not enough time in day...
 
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berzeli

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A majority of the top 10 runs were in New York or Los Angeles
I think I dare to narrow this down further; a majority of the top 10 runs were in WeHo or WeHo adjacent places for LA, and Greenwich Village, Chelsea, and Hell's Kitchen (or adjacent) for NY.

Deadline is saying $27M Saturday for Venom. Anyone who had hopes of it passing Solo's OW, those dreams are dead unless that estimate goes up by a couple million.
Well it's not like Deadline has ever been off by a few million for their guesstimates.
 

Slayven

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I might be crazy but Columbus day isn't a movie going holiday. It is an "oh shit kids are out of school, where do I put them" holiday
 

berzeli

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$42.6 with previews (guessing wednesday ones?) apparently. Also, not actuals estimates, the tweet is a typo.

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Venom did hit $80M... just barely. Will see if that hold for actuals
 
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T'Chakku

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Considering how often they're posted on this forum, it's getting really annoying how tweets no longer load for me.
 
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SephiZack

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They stopped working for me after I enabled tracking protection on Firefox, so I disabled it and now I can see tweets again
 

MrPink

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Well, Ruben also had Venom at a 60-65m OW 3 days ago.

If Venom does do 27m on Saturday then it would have a mere 17.6% drop OW F to S.

Better than

Suicide Squad -40.0%
BvS -37.9%
Solo -30.5%

I could see Sunday performing well, but maybe not -0.6% well. Isn't the Monday, Columbus Day, a national holiday in the United States?

"It is generally observed nowadays by banks, the bond market, the U.S. Postal Service, other federal agencies, most state government offices, many businesses, and most school districts. Some businesses and some stock exchanges remain open, and some states and municipalities abstain from observing the holiday."

I'm not all that familiar with how it compares to whatchamecallit that Solo had on its Monday. Here's hoping that Venom DOES bump up from there and has some cushion to barely sustain any ddisparity on Sunday while coming out ahead. XD

I'd like to look at some historical data for other films that opened with this setup during October, but there's not enough time in day...

Columbus Day isn't nearly as ubiquitous as Memorial Day is, seems to be more of a Northeast thing. Last year showed 20-30% drops on Sunday during the same timeframe.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2017-10-08&p=.htm
 
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