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Final Senate Vote on Judge Kavanaugh Underway (Saturday 3:30PM EST) [Update: Confirmed] (Read OP)
- Thread starter Etrian Oddity
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As one of the supposed 'defeatists' here (I prefer the term 'realist', myself) - I told you so. Every Democrat in the country could have marched on Washington and this confirmation would have happened anyway. We're not dealing with reasonable people here, so we shouldn't pretend they are.
Packing the court doesn't sound like a bad idea now. It's not going to happen, but it should.
Packing the court doesn't sound like a bad idea now. It's not going to happen, but it should.
Especially because voting rolls and potentially the final count itself was manipulated by the Russians.
Oh no, he should continue. Murkowski has won as a write in after being primaried before. If if happens again? Dems should strongly consider backing her and letting her into the caucus as an I.
Kennedy is going to be there plus it's a private swearing in.
What a freaking farce. He picked his successor .
This is why they don't like it when their meals are interrupted by protestors. They get reminded of what's at stake. They get reminded that it's not all just fun and games.
Which is irrelevant. Dems know the game, they know the stakes. We can play to win a completely winnable game then work to make the system more fair or we can stay at home and complain the system makes it so that we can never win. Gee, I wonder which one is more productive in the long run...?
You know how it is. We need to keep being trapped in 2016 because maybe one day one of the internet arguments about it will result in some measure of satisfaction.
He's not a good human being.
Nominating a bad person for SCOTUS will fuck over many people all over the USA including his constituents, just so he can keep his shit-encrusted seat.
Of course the cherry on this shit sundae is this shitstain attacking a woman right after putting a sexual abuser on the Supreme Court.
Feels like that would play right into Trump's hands, whether I agree or not.
Don't let anything keep your from the polls on Nov 6. And in Nov 2020. I live in nj, I tell you all chapter and fucking verse about corrupt dem politicans, I m gonna fucking suck it up and vote straight dem. If i can shallow voting for Mendez, I dgaf about any purity test at this point.
Then they should all be impeached or removed in other ways if Congress won't act.
The dems have not and will not support the broad structural changes necissary. They profit just as much if not more than the GOP from the current state of affairs in the broad view.
He'll:
1) get impeached
2) get threatened with impeachment and chooses to resign and not put up with or validate the deep state and democratic and media forces conspired against his presidency from day one
or
3) last the full 4 years without either of the above but choose to step down because...let's face it, he never really wanted to be president, doesn't really like it, it's already affecting his brand as much as it will, and will be too worried about losing in 2020 and deemed a failure to bother.
He will step down and make it seem he is doing it on his own terms and he can frame it as leaving as a winner.
This is the dumbest shit. Bernie Sanders and his supporters had nothing to do with trump winning and this shit happening. That's literally factual.
He's right. Those people are morons. They hurt democracy just as much as Republicans because they constantly make perfect the enemy of good.
The Kennedy family are whoremongering useless fuckers, the biggest cancer on the politics of this country.
Seriously, if civility won't convince republicans to do the right thing, then we need to stop being civil with them.
That means doing shit as tame as using loud noise outside their homes to prevent them from sleeping
We've alrweady had several isntances of bigger protests than any during the civil right movement, andi t hasn't done anything
That means doing shit as tame as using loud noise outside their homes to prevent them from sleeping
We've alrweady had several isntances of bigger protests than any during the civil right movement, andi t hasn't done anything
I completely agree. The problems with the political systems of US government needed fixing Id say well over a century ago. Look at Andrew Jackson and his election. watch how much that election was on personal attacks rather than policy. Look at how partisanship became more and more entrenched. These problems come about because of political systems. These systems nurture and incentivize certain behaviors and norms. Those US norms, behaviors, etc are extremely flawed despite the good intentions of America's founders. Canadian federalism was designed in such a way (designed right after the US civil war) as to avoid the US's flaws.
All things die, that is inevitable, however the collapse of the US has unprecedented potential of global catastrophe. Similar to the end of WW1, what happens after will fundamentally change the world.
Walk in, and whine about a group of people for no reason and you might get them to react.
I have a hard time believing that shocks you.
The system is broken from top to bottom and has been for a very long time. It is a miracle that the country has functioned this long with inane garbage like this.
How could anyone possibly expect judges to be neutral and stay out of politics with a system like this? Why do you need a guy from the U.K. to tell you this is ridiculous? In the U.S., the entire profession is political by design. And in the last few weeks, we have seen the natural outcome of that.
How could anyone possibly expect judges to be neutral and stay out of politics with a system like this? Why do you need a guy from the U.K. to tell you this is ridiculous? In the U.S., the entire profession is political by design. And in the last few weeks, we have seen the natural outcome of that.
Technically, all the Supreme Court can do is overturn Roe v Wade which allows abortion on a Federal level. Abortion would then only be legal in States which allow it (likely all Blue states and a handful of Red states). For Abortion to be banned Nationally it would require a Constitutional Amendment which is incredibly unlikely to happen.
Great argument. Good to see you can't defend your stupidity.
The Senate has outlived its usefulness and needs to be substantially reformed if not outright abolished.
I've never had any intention on being civil with republicans. Even when I merely disagreed with them. They are actively subverting democracy and placing their party above the country. This is what the founding fathers warned of. And those assholes love trotting out the genius of the founding fathers with regards to the constitution. A document rife with hypocrisy and hatred.
What an utter fucking farce. This country continues to wave a giant middle finger in the direction of women and minorities.
Please channel this anger at the voting booth next month.
Please channel this anger at the voting booth next month.