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Richter1887

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Oct 27, 2017
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I really love this series due to how intense and fast paced it is. I loved it since the PS1...

...but I still suck at it to this day. So my question is how do I get better at this series and is there anybody in the same spot as me?
 

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It's a lot about anticipation and steering early. Knowledge of the tracks is required. Those games aren't easy.
 

WillySJ3

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Oct 31, 2017
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Playing a lot. I'm not an expert, but I did get better by just playing over and over again. You can also watch some videos on YouTube, there's always someone out there teaching anything.
 

Karlinel

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Nov 10, 2017
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Memorizing the tracks, mastering air brakes (so you get to know when to, despite not being able to actually see the curve). Also, be aggressive as fuck with rivals. And be patient!
 

JamboGT

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Repetition, go into speedlap mode and learn the tracks, you have to be turning before you get to the corners.

Start with a Feisar or AG Systems and once you are happy then try an Icarus or something like that.

Presuming you are on the Omega Collection I would start with Moa Therma as it is probably the easiest track.
 

Shiloh

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Oct 25, 2017
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HellfireWZ has beginner videos, and then more track specific videos at well. Plus his accent is cool.
 

Elodes

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Airbrakes are absolutely crucial in any high-speed race. Knowing when to use them, when to stop using them, and when to really use them and then airbrake in the opposite direction right after to correct your course, is paramount.
 
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Yeah, I love the series too but I've never been very good at it either. Any speed above Rapier and I'm usually lagging far behind. As far as I can tell it's about memorising the tracks so you know when to steer, being an expert with the airbrakes and gradually learning how to race at slower speeds before building up to faster speeds. In most races the vast majority of the time when I'm at the back it's because I'm crashing into the sides every second corner.

I find 2048 in particular really punishing, but that might just be that I haven't played a huge amount of it.
 

Fasty

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Oct 27, 2017
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Not sure which Wipeout you're referring to, but if you mean the original, I'd suggest skipping it for 2097/XL. Hitting the side of the track in the original brings you to a dead stop which is no fun. Wall skimming in 2097 is some of the best fun in racing games. Just be sure to pull the nose up on your craft when sliding around corners and along walls
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Air brakes, starting with slower races until you have the physics memorized.

Air brakes are key though. Knowing what's enough and what's too much.

Good memorization can make up for fast reaction speeds, in case you don't have those.


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tyfon

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Repetition, go into speedlap mode and learn the tracks, you have to be turning before you get to the corners.

Start with a Feisar or AG Systems and once you are happy then try an Icarus or something like that.

Presuming you are on the Omega Collection I would start with Moa Therma as it is probably the easiest track.

Or Van Ăśber :)
But that might have been a pre-order vehicle or something in the omega collection?
It is also not available for all the different race types.
 

redmoss

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Even at the lowest speeds, Wipeout has a very small margin of error. You have to to take the turns at exactly the right speed and amount or chances are you'll hit something (this applies to going too slow a lot of the time). Because of this, you can't really 'eyeball' the track, you have to learn to feel the exact mixture of turn and speed going into a corner, and due to the speeds, this is often ahead of time, even before the corner is in your view. It shifts the game from being less about analysis and more about developing a muscle memory. The tracks are designed to be quite short in comparison to other racing games for this reason; they're almost like puzzles you have to solve rather than a traditional approach to driving you might find in GT Sport or suchlike.

The reward is, once you have that track laid out in your muscle memory, it's an exhilirating experience (again as opposed to the methodic, incremental and strategic gameplay of your GT Sport).
 

Temascos

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I practice in Zone mode, a lot. While it's fairly different from most modes you get to know the tracks well, and especially so on the faster speeds.
 
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Richter1887

Richter1887

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Oct 27, 2017
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Thanks for the tips guys!
The series is really awesome which is why it sucks the studio was shut down. Nothing comes close to how intense the series is.

It's quite a bit easier in VR too if your thinking of taking the plunge....
Wipeout is the main reason I want to get a PSVR so I will definitely get it when I can afford it (I am unemployed at the moment).
Not sure which Wipeout you're referring to, but if you mean the original, I'd suggest skipping it for 2097/XL. Hitting the side of the track in the original brings you to a dead stop which is no fun. Wall skimming in 2097 is some of the best fun in racing games. Just be sure to pull the nose up on your craft when sliding around corners and along walls
I am playing the one on the Vita (with the DLCs so you can technically call it the Omega Collection).
 
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Creepy Woody

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Nov 11, 2017
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I finished Pure and Pulse no problem. HD, 2048 and Omega all kick my ass past the first league. I can't get through the packs of ships and they just blast me to hell if I try. Best I can get is 4th or 3rd usually.

Ever since the PSP games, they have gotten a lot harder.
 

astroturfing

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i just had to try and try and try and try harder, until it clicked and i could get in a flow state and just breeze through the tracks without even thinking much.

i've only played the original and Wipeout HD though, no idea if the others are harder.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Favorite post of the day, and it's all true!

Thanks!

Straight up bragging: I was really good at those games. Played the crap of the PSP and PS3 games.
I don't know if someone reported me for cheating or something, but eventually I couldn't log into the online section of HD/Fury anymore.
I use to destroy folks online, so maybe someone just thought I was cheating or just reported me out of spite.

One thing I did, though, was practice a lot. I'd use the WipEout HD custom soundtracks as my mp3 player/podcast player and just run tracks over and over again.

My favorite form of practice was doing Zone mode without steering at all. Air brakes only. It really forces you to learn the physics of braking in AG.

However, feeling the force around you is pretty important.
 

ffvorax

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Oct 27, 2017
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Track memorization and practice, practice, practice.


Well, on Vita it's only 30 fps, so that's making the game more difficult than if you played it in 60 fps on PS3/PS4.

I agree, and that is why I want to try it on my PSVR... I bet it's even "easier".

For example I find Thumper impossible without VR... while in VR I am pretty good at it... it makes a huge difference for speed games.
 

oliverandm

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Nov 13, 2017
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I haven't played too much Wipeout (only some hours), but I have played a lot of Redout this year, and principles are the same for these games:

1. You need a pretty firm grasp of the mechanics.

2. You need knowledge of the track design.

3. You repeat until it's muscle memory.
 

JamboGT

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Also with air brakes I recommend setting the sensitivity of them to 10% in the menus, makes them feel a bit sharper.
 

Strangelove_77

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I was pretty good on the Vita version but I'm awful at the PS4 version. I guess that's what happens when you take a break from a franchise for a few years.